dbasons55

i use my car daily and have no problems with it being as a daily driver it only start screaming when you push it but she is quiet when cursing, about the video i think its the SLS given the advantage of being ahead of the 458 maybe gave it the edge i am not sure wasn't there i am just focusing on the CLS63

otakki

Also remember both 458 and SLS use the same DCT, with Ferrari tuning it for acceleration and MB tuning it for durability.

lm24

I think this has been mentioned on this forum in the past and was the reason I first was linked to the following article:

http://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins

stevieg

Very strong. Nice to have roads long and straight like that where the car can really stretch its legs !! I would love to see how the VATH SLS car performs since it has the supercharger installed.
I'm sure the Audi driver rushed home and is trying to find Underground Racing's phone number for a build !!!
Nice Vid. Go Merc !!!

Zolivary75

I dont want to call anyone a liar, or call this video an attempt at a marketing ploy for this tune company.
I can appreciate the speed of this car, but i doubt that ability for a tuned only cls63 pulling away from a 458 like that. Do i think it can tak ea 458, yeah possibly, but with a tune only I am not sure. But I am sure no way can it pull from a 458 like that with only a tune.
If this is true, then i would have to say its the fastest cls in the world. I have a tune, upgraded tran, downpipes, cooler, slip done and I dont think i can pull from a 458 like that.
Upgrade the turbos or NOS then ofcourse.

My other question is what tires are you using as the continentals could never handle that pull.

Jspeed

Zolivary - Sorry to hijack the thread, but just wanna ask what tranny upgrade do u have and if it made a noticeable difference to acceleration?

dbasons55

it does have cooling along with the tune, my friend is running Pirelli tires. and there is NO NOS or TURBO UPGRADES!!! oh it does have limited slip too. you don't need the tran upgrade to be faster its just a selling point, i am running upgraded turbos in my car for the last 18000 miles with not a single problem.

otakki

Certainly possible for a CLS63 to pull from 458 like that. But remember this is only the straight line (which likely most of us will see and get to use daily). On a racetrack where there are lots of curves, I'm sure 458's handling will likely outshine that of the CLS.

Zolivary75

I have renntech tune, renntech slip, renntech downpipes 100cell, cooler as well. I awaiting for him to have the turbos. I know my car is fast, infant hartmut himself said its one of the better ones in terms of all the work he has done.
I'd love to race you to see the difference, maybe my car can pull away from a 458 like yours I dunno.
You prefer Pirelli over the mich super sport?

Ali_E55

from rolling, these M157 are very fast.

i have OE tuning with catless Downpipes only, and the car is really fast.

so i am not advertising GAD, but one thing for sure, do not underestmate the new CLS from rolling.

i tried with lots of cars, i even smoked R8 V10 by 3 - 4 car lengths when i was stock ( mine has PP option ).

if it was a race from 0, than 458 would have a jump till 100km but when CLS is hooked on 3rd gear @ 110km, it will fly by it.

dbasons55

Ok my friend is running Pirelli I don't know if he prefers them over super sport but I am running Trofeo's and I would never get anything else, just to make it clear Renntech are not exactly the best at this! You are waiting on turbo upgrades to be offered by them I have turbos running in my car since months now I can't remember exactly but it was beginning of March 2012 I had my engine pulled out, so who is ahead in this game?

Zolivary75

Dbason, Hartmut resume speaks for itself. I am not saying your team is not good, but to me I'd rather have one of the founding AMG fathers working on my car. I can appreciate the fact you have had your turbos before as well, but so much more to just making the car go as fast as possible vs. making sure it all works together. You don't tune a car to go as fast as humanly possible, you tune a car so it complements the components involved to ensure the vehicles timing and capabilities are in tune. Again, I am not patronizing the team who worked on yoru car, the video speaks for itself. I just think nobody can touch Renntech, Hartmut is AMG.

dbasons55

True I never said they weren't good they are well reputed and know what they are doing never the less founders are not developing stuff right now they are icons and there for they depend on people they hire to do that for them which in Renntech case should have been one of the first to come out with hardware upgrades! Not just tran upgrade and a limited slip! Did they split your cooling system just like AMG are doing with those engines? Anyways all the best and I can't wait to see what they can pump out of those M157.

Zolivary75

dbasons, i can not argue with anything you said. ive met hartmut and his team several times. i guess its just safe to say, i trust him with my car, and i trust period. i have to think if he is still working on the turbos its for a reason, not due to lack of resources or skills.
i would love to drive your car. i recommend you change the downpipes, the sound you hear when your car automatically downshifts its something else. i find myself driving with the stereo off just to hear the engine.
all the best.

Mathmik

Man that CLS is UNREAL!!! Nice *** whippin....lol

dbasons55

Zolivary I am running 3" downpipe in my car but this is my friend's car in the videos I have posted in this thread my car is loud I have a straight pipeS no cats with Brabus valve control exhaust

Thericker

So a new cls63 w/only ECU/TCU & IC upgrade will absolutely rape 458 in roll-on & judging by your vidz the cls63 will do even more damage to a lighter SL65 Black Series that weighs few hundred lb's less & has about equal rwhp but about 200 more rwtq Hmmm I doubt it..
https://mbworld.org/forums/sl55-amg-...ck-series.html
From reviewing vidz the Audi R8 v10 also handily beats the 458, I seriously doubt the Audi will beat an SL65 Black Series or the Ferrari 458 when ALL are properly driven.
Audi lists a respectable 11.88 @ 120 mph @ Dragtimes http://www.dragtimes.com/Audi-R8-Timeslip-20355.html
The Ferarri 458 lists 11.22 @ 132 mph http://www.dragtimes.com/Ferrari-458...lip-22401.html
A stock SL65 Black will easily run basement 11's @ 129+ mph

From the vidz listed for the tuned CLS63 in the beg of this thread it pulls multi-bus lengths on both Audi & 458, that would require a terminal Trap speed of 140-145 mph @ least. Summation the 458 in the vidz isn't driven correctly whatsoever.

dbasons55

You forget an important point the SL65 has an outdated transmission and you can doubt as much as you want! The videos are clear and they speak for themselves if it had anything more i would have shared it honestly I don't have to repeat myself over and over you either accept fact or just keep your opinion to yourself! I have been on this forum and have never shared miss leading information! And just for the record my friend retuned his car with another tuner and it's even quicker now!

Thericker

This is an open forum IE OPINIONS are what this forums ALL about so in your mind set as long as people agree w/you opinons are viable

Out dated 5 speed slush box agreed. But it still traps near 130 mph & these are roll-on races very comparable. The 458 when properly driven does 132+ mph The cls63 in the vidzz handily destroys the SLS too, it Traps a slower 126 mph vs 458 which again gets majorly waxed yet it should run 130+ mph. The cls63 would need to trap 140-145 mph to acomplish this...

NOTE: the Audi Traps 120 mph MAX it ALSO rapes the 458 in your vidz please

dbasons55

The Audi never raped no one the first race the 458 was at the back to do the recording "thinking it will over take them all" and second race it was alined next to the Audi and destroyed it, in the video with the SLS the 458 was running right across the CLS, as I said you can watch it as much as you want believe whatever you want! I shared what I have, we all know the M157 has big potentials and this is part of what it can do!

Thericker

Hmm the Audi ran door to door & also pulled on the 458 in the multi runs Let's forget the Audi & SL Black for now... To explain it to you on a simpler level "If" the 458 was correctly driven it Traps a blistering 132 mph, the cls 63 Tune & IC pump pulls 3-4 BUS lengths on it like 458 was in reverse, cls63 would need to Trap 140-145 mph to do this. Or 800-900 rwhp Yaa Ecu tune/IC pump atta' do it

Again I summize the 458 wasn't driven near it's potential...

dbasons55

It's hard to convince you of what you can see and don't want to believe even if it was driven to it's full potential I assure you it does not stand a chance and the gap would still be big! As I said believe it or not you can see the SLS taking a beating too.


Enjoy FACT give it some slack soon you will see more of this coming from different members who own CLS63's and tune there cars to the limit and then we will do the numbers again

Take a break with this short video an M5 giving a 458 hard time on a track what would a PROPERLY tuned CLS do in a straight line!

Thericker

OK random vidz here's a 458 vs Tuned Nissan GTR @ 600 hp

AmmarYasirA

This thread is becoming like the thread about when Dbason raped an Aventador....

Guys please, open up. Last time there wasn't a video, this time there is, and you guys are still whining

Zolivary75

Who tuned your friends car to where it is even faster? I have my dyno report after all the work was done.
I posted the pic months ago.
Max power 593 max torque 642