CLS 63 to get 4matic?
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FYI : 4matic vehicles are obviously heavier & the have different ratio's in transmission and differentials ...
All these things will produce a slower more sluggish car.
for all the power and sporty enthusiast. 4matic cars accelerate Noticeably slower.
Drive a regular and then same model 4matic you will feel the difference.
You think the 4 matic is going to give you better traction for let's say a drag race? Well it's not. Your current 63 will always be faster.
If you want to accelerate harder and get a jump , Just buy better tires!
For guys that just want to have a better winter vehicle...... Just get a SUV!
Guys don't get me wrong I am a fan of 4matic, it works very well. And even a 63 with 4matic will be plenty fast.... It just will not be the upper hand in a in acceleration when you take the weight and ratio's into the equation.
Guys if I am wrong correct me.
All these things will produce a slower more sluggish car.
for all the power and sporty enthusiast. 4matic cars accelerate Noticeably slower.
Drive a regular and then same model 4matic you will feel the difference.
You think the 4 matic is going to give you better traction for let's say a drag race? Well it's not. Your current 63 will always be faster.
If you want to accelerate harder and get a jump , Just buy better tires!
For guys that just want to have a better winter vehicle...... Just get a SUV!
Guys don't get me wrong I am a fan of 4matic, it works very well. And even a 63 with 4matic will be plenty fast.... It just will not be the upper hand in a in acceleration when you take the weight and ratio's into the equation.
Guys if I am wrong correct me.
lol what are you talking about?
do you think amg is going to release a new cls with more power, AWD, thats going to be SLOWER than the current cls?
its 0-60 is probably going to be .6-.7 seconds faster and 1/4mile will be probably mid 11's. how does that equal slower acceleration?
and, the extra weight should be offset by the extra 27 hp.
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FYI : 4matic vehicles are obviously heavier & the have different ratio's in transmission and differentials ...
All these things will produce a slower more sluggish car.
for all the power and sporty enthusiast. 4matic cars accelerate Noticeably slower.
Drive a regular and then same model 4matic you will feel the difference.
You think the 4 matic is going to give you better traction for let's say a drag race? Well it's not. Your current 63 will always be faster.
If you want to accelerate harder and get a jump , Just buy better tires!
For guys that just want to have a better winter vehicle...... Just get a SUV!
Guys don't get me wrong I am a fan of 4matic, it works very well. And even a 63 with 4matic will be plenty fast.... It just will not be the upper hand in a in acceleration when you take the weight and ratio's into the equation.
Guys if I am wrong correct me.
All these things will produce a slower more sluggish car.
for all the power and sporty enthusiast. 4matic cars accelerate Noticeably slower.
Drive a regular and then same model 4matic you will feel the difference.
You think the 4 matic is going to give you better traction for let's say a drag race? Well it's not. Your current 63 will always be faster.
If you want to accelerate harder and get a jump , Just buy better tires!
For guys that just want to have a better winter vehicle...... Just get a SUV!
Guys don't get me wrong I am a fan of 4matic, it works very well. And even a 63 with 4matic will be plenty fast.... It just will not be the upper hand in a in acceleration when you take the weight and ratio's into the equation.
Guys if I am wrong correct me.
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Yes, definitely no contest off the line for the 4Matic version. It's similarly demonstrated by a recent video from the ?"Moscow 500" where a Juke-R clearly pulled off the line much faster than a Veyron despite having less but still impressive hp/tq.
The main question is the pull from high speed, ie 90mph+, between the 4Matic and RWD. I'm guessing the RWD will excel under those conditions due to the additional weight and drag of the 4Matic hardware. I would like to see a comparison but MB has increased the power for the S 4Matic and thus the comparison will likely not be valid.
The main question is the pull from high speed, ie 90mph+, between the 4Matic and RWD. I'm guessing the RWD will excel under those conditions due to the additional weight and drag of the 4Matic hardware. I would like to see a comparison but MB has increased the power for the S 4Matic and thus the comparison will likely not be valid.
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Yes, definitely no contest off the line for the 4Matic version. It's similarly demonstrated by a recent video from the ?"Moscow 500" where a Juke-R clearly pulled off the line much faster than a Veyron despite having less but still impressive hp/tq.
The main question is the pull from high speed, ie 90mph+, between the 4Matic and RWD. I'm guessing the RWD will excel under those conditions due to the additional weight and drag of the 4Matic hardware. I would like to see a comparison but MB has increased the power for the S 4Matic and thus the comparison will likely not be valid.
The main question is the pull from high speed, ie 90mph+, between the 4Matic and RWD. I'm guessing the RWD will excel under those conditions due to the additional weight and drag of the 4Matic hardware. I would like to see a comparison but MB has increased the power for the S 4Matic and thus the comparison will likely not be valid.
i was looking at the specs of the 2013 cls. it said the weight was 1870 kg. which is around 4120 lbs.
if i option the CC brakes i believe the net extra weight from AWD over the RWD cls will be only about 100 lbs. correct em if im wrong...?
that puts the cls 4matic with cc brakes at about 4220-4250 lbs.
this is i believe, still lighter than the m5, is it not?
i probably should know, since i have an m5, but..
