Lowering options for CLS63
Hey guys , just took delivery of a Diamond White 2013 CLS63 with Performance package and P1 package along with the carbon fiber trim and spoiler. I can't believe what a beast this thing is!!!
I absolutely love everything about this vehicle except for the ride height and some of the chrome lettering/trim.......... What lowering modules / coilover options have you guys had success with?? My dealer told me coilovers were a very bad idea because of the airmatic suspension but it looks like there are plenty of modded CLS63's doing just fine with them. Anybody used the renntech lowering module?? Any input is appreciated! Thanks. |
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Congrats on the ride, I got mine last week as well. Alanite matte grey with PP.
I believe a few vendors have a lowering kit (Renntech for sure, go their site) but if you do a search you will find more for less $$. I will also try to get most of the chrome painted. |
kw is what everyone uses
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I dont know why, on my car the KW's are very very stiff and bouncy. I don't know if it's just that I am too sensitive, or is it because the wheels/tires I'm running or maybe even because of an incorrect installation
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Originally Posted by otherotherbenz
(Post 5590035)
I dont know why, on my car the KW's are very very stiff and bouncy. I don't know if it's just that I am too sensitive, or is it because the wheels/tires I'm running or maybe even because of an incorrect installation
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Originally Posted by saifsaif
(Post 5590129)
U r right, KW is too stiff thats why i am going with H&R spring ,
Thinking about switching to H&R's and sell the KW's now.. Have you installed the H&R's on your car? |
thats my fear with kw, looks great but i have the PP version of the suspension and its already pretty tight, no need for more stiffness.
sport plus suspension is only good for pristine asphalt or a race track, but for everyday So-cal ****ty freeways i leave it in comfort a set of KW is just gonna make me turn on the massage feature more often can u post the H and R part number and specifics, thanks |
vdubpower i got a set of H&R with adjustable rear end that i never installed on my 63. pm me for info.
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Originally Posted by otherotherbenz
(Post 5590964)
Yea, I kinda regret getting the KW's.. should have bought the H&R's instead, same (if not probably better) driving quality and drop for a 3x cheaper price..
Thinking about switching to H&R's and sell the KW's now.. Have you installed the H&R's on your car? |
Thanks for the replies fellas. It sounds like the KW's are quite a big sacrifice of ride comfort and I'm not sure I want to deal with that. Nobody has tried the Renntech lowering module huh??
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Had KWs, and switched out for a set of Evoklass. I liked it because KW didn't allow for rear adjustment and the rear of my CLS sat lower than the front (or at least it appeared that way).
now i have full adjustment front and rear all the way up to stock height if needed. i notice the lower i go, the more bouncy it gets. that's probably a function of less travel on the front shock and less air in the rear compressors. |
tfk, why not use the Hand R's vs using evoklass, what made u pics on vs the other
in regards to ride, if u read all of vic55 post on the kw he loves them, but i think he likes the stiffest settings for the windy roads |
I agree that the KW's make for a stiff ride. I love the stance that they create with spacers but you better be traveling on smoothe roads if you don't want your teeth to rattle. Are the H&R's going to be better because of a different spring rate?
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
(Post 5592311)
tfk, why not use the Hand R's vs using evoklass, what made u pics on vs the other
in regards to ride, if u read all of vic55 post on the kw he loves them, but i think he likes the stiffest settings for the windy roads |
What are the spring rate differences between the 3 brands? KW, H&R and Evoklass? Any vendors or amnufacturers have this info?
FYI, The latest KW come with adjustable rear links as well or at least mine did back in Sept. They were plastic so I still purchased metal ones from Vivid. |
Your dampeners will have a greater effect on stiffness than the springs... most of us that have used the KW's have the PP on the cars which creates that "so called" bone jarring ride. The PP shocks are rather stiff.
On my wagon I dropped it with KW's but the wagon doesnt get the PP dampeners so the ride was a bit more compliant. For me it was too soft as Id rather have less body roll and more chassis control than comfort to ensure my driving experience is maximized. I have great roads where I live so I enjoy the KW's. Another factor is how low do you drop your cars- as you compress the KW's down the shocks get pushed even more out of there functional range which will create more rebound and compression results. |
i guess the correct solution is set that has both shocks and springs made to work with each other
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
(Post 5593095)
i guess the correct solution is set that has both shocks and springs made to work with each other
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Even the stock AMG shocks are stiff over sharp bumps. They send shudders through the chassis.
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Originally Posted by CLS63W218
(Post 5592871)
What are the spring rate differences between the 3 brands? KW, H&R and Evoklass? Any vendors or amnufacturers have this info?
FYI, The latest KW come with adjustable rear links as well or at least mine did back in Sept. They were plastic so I still purchased metal ones from Vivid. |
From my experience with KWs on PP -- rear end is really stiff with the KW links. Front seems to be more compliant (it is ok for me). Will changing it with adjustable links makes it more comfortable? Anyone know?
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seems i will be keeping stock ride, idont want it any harsher
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Originally Posted by E-SICKTY3
(Post 5601474)
From my experience with KWs on PP -- rear end is really stiff with the KW links. Front seems to be more compliant (it is ok for me). Will changing it with adjustable links makes it more comfortable? Anyone know?
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Originally Posted by Vic55
(Post 5601968)
The links in the rear are the same as any other link; they are just a tool to lower the car and not a shock or spring. The rear has airmatic suspension so if you used a KW link, Renntech, etc, you would still have the same suspension spring rates and shocks as anyone else with the same setup (pp). The key for the rear is how low you drop it.
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Originally Posted by E-SICKTY3
(Post 5602494)
Thanks Vic. I guess that's how the car rides then :). I dropped mine with exactly one finger gap all around -- just like your CLS before, but not sure how you think about the rear comfort wise (maybe I'm not used to that many stiff rides and it is one's preference). The KWs definitely handles really well through corners and high speed driving though.
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Any up to date thoughts on this subject?
On a non performance pack car, what spring set up provides the closest to OEM feel / ride - not interested in the slightest in handling improvements, just pure cosmetics. |
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I have a 13 CLS 550 on the Renntech setup with front lowering links. This is what a 6" Drop on the front looks like; with a 2 1/2" in the rear. |
Originally Posted by JPMBenz
(Post 6312795)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...be444d672e.jpg
I have a 13 CLS 550 on the Renntech setup with front lowering links. This is what a 6" Drop on the front looks like; with a 2 1/2" in the rear. Have you changed the springs in the front as well as lowering links? and has the rear been done using the Renntech module (so on factory air)? Cheers |
Originally Posted by bryce
(Post 6314100)
Thanks for your reply. Could you clarify for me though as Im new to the w218.
Have you changed the springs in the front as well as lowering links? and has the rear been done using the Renntech module (so on factory air)? Cheers In the non AMG 218; the front uses an air spring. However, it does not go as low as the rear. The Lowering Link is shorter in height which allows the car to go lower. Yes, the cars full factory suspension is still in place. I just changed the front links and added the renntech lowering module. |
I run the KW's as i have in all my cars and yes the ride can be a little bumpy. When i 1st picked up my car it looks amazing. Hardly any tire gap but the ride was garbage. Once they raised it up a little, the ride was much better but not what i would call luxury. My main concern is when i go over reflectors or heaven forbid a railroad track, then the car shakes more than i would expect from an AMG. Price of performance and looks right.....
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Originally Posted by bryce
(Post 6310856)
Any up to date thoughts on this subject?
On a non performance pack car, what spring set up provides the closest to OEM feel / ride - not interested in the slightest in handling improvements, just pure cosmetics. was wondering that too. when i get my next cls im going to want to lower it. (dont car about handling improvements) but $2300 for the renntech lowering module and coilovers seems a bit much just to lower the car. then add installation and its over $3000 i was thinking for H&R springs - $300-$400, and rear links - $200-$300, about $1500 less and wouldnt you get essentially the same results? just saw this company, they have a solution for rear lowering links for the cls63. anyone used them? http://www.airmatic-lowering-links.co.uk/ always was hesitant to order this type of product off ebay but it IS the name of their company! lol http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-CLS-CLS63-W218-LOWERING-KIT-FREE-24HR-FEDEX-SHIPPING-TO-US-CANADA-/111440614257?hash=item19f260d371&vxp=mtr |
Bump. I am looking to lower my car. I found a lowering module from loweringmodule.com
http://loweringmodule.com/mercedes/cls-w218/ And wanted to see if anyone had any experience with this. Thanks! |
Originally Posted by Roman Morel
(Post 7519201)
Of course, here you can find many threads about this module.
for example https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...ule-399-a.html https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...ng-module.html I bought the same module here https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C7G3J13 You can contact free with the seller on e-mail shamaichart@icloud.com for checking VIN Called them directly. Since our suspension is spring and air in the rear it doesn't make sense investing in this system and only for the CLS550 owners since their setup is AirMatic on all 4 corners.. Looks like I'll be resorting to Coils/Sleeves in the front and links in the rear. |
Amazon lowering module
Originally Posted by Roman Morel
(Post 7519581)
The LoMo module 450$ work with Airmatic on all 4 corners. But about another LoMo module I don't know anything.
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I use Evoklass coilovers F and links R, both are fully adjustable to your desired height. Stiffness wise, it all depends on my suspension setting. Comfort is soft/smooth, sport is stiffer, and sport + is really stiff. I love the fact that I can play with it down to the exact mm to get it just right. You won’t be disappointed. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...50ae169b2.jpeg |
Originally Posted by JDMAP1
(Post 7542899)
I use Evoklass coilovers F and links R, both are fully adjustable to your desired height. Stiffness wise, it all depends on my suspension setting. Comfort is soft/smooth, sport is stiffer, and sport + is really stiff. I love the fact that I can play with it down to the exact mm to get it just right. You won’t be disappointed. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...50ae169b2.jpeg |
Originally Posted by try m3
(Post 7542932)
Damn that looks awesome! Where did you order them from?
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