what the hell??
regarding your question, my CLS is probably the best all around car I've ever owned, it's crazy fast and fun to drive and still serves as daily driver, seating 4 adults, I love the car.
it's a little annoying that the COMAND is rather useless and I either use my iPhone or Garmin when needing navigation, but small price to pay for the wicked CLS63




I admit: it isn't a very exciting wheel on the cls (p41) in clear brush tint, they need a special color

you mean your buddies? LOL

I agree Steinhart: love driving mine, still save it for the weekends to make it that much better....it fast and fun, looks amazing......I still gawk at my own car when it's uncovered during the weekend; doing double takes ALL the time; especially from the rear end......so aggressive and the wide tires! hots damn

never visited the BMW board not being an owner, or even a consider-er for that matter lol

I really wish I could say I loved mine but I don't. Oh, where to start? Actually before I rip the CLS a new one, let me mention a few positive attributes. First, the car is visually stunning at rest or rolling. I get endless compliments on the incredible appearance of this AMG. Elegant, stylish, striking and aggressive are just a few of the adjectives people use when talking about this car. The other item that Mercedes got right was the exhaust note……..this thing purrs like a lion.
On to the disappointing attributes. First, the CLS replaced a much loved 2005 E55 that was massaged with a number of Kleemann software and hardware items. That car was a beast when it needed to be and a great city and highway cruiser the rest of the time. It's only faults were its vague steering and the slush box (although it fit the car's personality well). I expected the CLS to be a huge upgrade over the old and inferior E55 but it's not working out that way. First, the suspension in the CLS is downright abusive. Road imperfections are not absorbed by the suspension but transmitted through the entire car. I actually think that some of my dental fillings are loosening (pm'ed Pertplus to see if I have a case. No response yet). I'm sure the KW coilovers on the car are partially responsible but I only did a 20mm drop. I just outfitted it with some new tires and changed the alignment specs so we will see if that makes a difference. The next letdown is the command center…..it's not intuitive and seems antiquated when compared to the Audi MMI. I also use my Apple phone when directions are needed. For a car that cost north of 100K, I cannot believe it doesn't come standard with parking sensors. If any car ever needed them it's the CLS. I still have a difficult time judging how far I can pull into my garage without hitting the wall.
What's next? Well how about lackluster power delivery. For a car that has 550hp it's a little too relaxed and the gearbox is often confused. I recently drove a 2014 E550 coupe and it felt spunkier and had a much better throttle response. I've put up with this annoyance long enough and the car goes in Tuesday for downpipes and a tune…..hope it helps. Let's end this rant with the interior. At first glance it looks pretty impressive but on closer inspection the material selection looks less expensive than my old E55. Was Mercedes trying to save a buck?
Not going to bail on this car yet. I've always hung on to girls that only had looks going for them, so why should a car be any different? Hopefully injecting a little adrenaline into this AMG will win me over……we will see.
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I really wish I could say I loved mine but I don't. Oh, where to start? Actually before I rip the CLS a new one, let me mention a few positive attributes. First, the car is visually stunning at rest or rolling. I get endless compliments on the incredible appearance of this AMG. Elegant, stylish, striking and aggressive are just a few of the adjectives people use when talking about this car. The other item that Mercedes got right was the exhaust note……..this thing purrs like a lion.
On to the disappointing attributes. First, the CLS replaced a much loved 2005 E55 that was massaged with a number of Kleemann software and hardware items. That car was a beast when it needed to be and a great city and highway cruiser the rest of the time. It's only faults were its vague steering and the slush box (although it fit the car's personality well). I expected the CLS to be a huge upgrade over the old and inferior E55 but it's not working out that way. First, the suspension in the CLS is downright abusive. Road imperfections are not absorbed by the suspension but transmitted through the entire car. I actually think that some of my dental fillings are loosening (pm'ed Pertplus to see if I have a case. No response yet). I'm sure the KW coilovers on the car are partially responsible but I only did a 20mm drop. I just outfitted it with some new tires and changed the alignment specs so we will see if that makes a difference. The next letdown is the command center…..it's not intuitive and seems antiquated when compared to the Audi MMI. I also use my Apple phone when directions are needed. For a car that cost north of 100K, I cannot believe it doesn't come standard with parking sensors. If any car ever needed them it's the CLS. I still have a difficult time judging how far I can pull into my garage without hitting the wall.
What's next? Well how about lackluster power delivery. For a car that has 550hp it's a little too relaxed and the gearbox is often confused. I recently drove a 2014 E550 coupe and it felt spunkier and had a much better throttle response. I've put up with this annoyance long enough and the car goes in Tuesday for downpipes and a tune…..hope it helps. Let's end this rant with the interior. At first glance it looks pretty impressive but on closer inspection the material selection looks less expensive than my old E55. Was Mercedes trying to save a buck?
Not going to bail on this car yet. I've always hung on to girls that only had looks going for them, why should a car be any different? Hopefully injecting a little adrenaline into this AMG will win me over……we will see.
I sometimes get the urge to tune it but just can't live with the possible warranty issues that come with it, and the fact that I can't use the power/speed anywhere that it has now, plenty fast and responsive, especially in S+ mode
I'm much more comfortable in the SL than the CLS but their two different types of cars, as Vic pointed out "trade comfort for performance", however even the leather seems to be softer with a stronger leather smell in the SL
I hope the '15 refresh fixes the COMAND issues (basically revamp the entire system) and uses GARMIN for their navigation, which has been reported in the news.
Any idea when the '15 will be out? I haven't seen anything except spy photos with most of the new stuff covered up
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Regarding this forum, since vendors of all kinds have taken over, I come visit no more than a couple of times a month these days. Opening the gates to vendors like this defeats the purpose of this forum. Is there a way to keep them in a separate section of this site so we know where to go to see what they have to offer and where to go when we don't?
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Regarding this forum, since vendors of all kinds have taken over, I come visit no more than a couple of times a month these days. Opening the gates to vendors like this defeats the purpose of this forum. Is there a way to keep them in a separate section of this site so we know where to go to see what they have to offer and where to go when we don't?
Agreed, and great suggestion, separate section for vendors would be great

I really wish I could say I loved mine but I don't. Oh, where to start? Actually before I rip the CLS a new one, let me mention a few positive attributes. First, the car is visually stunning at rest or rolling. I get endless compliments on the incredible appearance of this AMG. Elegant, stylish, striking and aggressive are just a few of the adjectives people use when talking about this car. The other item that Mercedes got right was the exhaust note……..this thing purrs like a lion.
On to the disappointing attributes. First, the CLS replaced a much loved 2005 E55 that was massaged with a number of Kleemann software and hardware items. That car was a beast when it needed to be and a great city and highway cruiser the rest of the time. It's only faults were its vague steering and the slush box (although it fit the car's personality well). I expected the CLS to be a huge upgrade over the old and inferior E55 but it's not working out that way. First, the suspension in the CLS is downright abusive. Road imperfections are not absorbed by the suspension but transmitted through the entire car. I actually think that some of my dental fillings are loosening (pm'ed Pertplus to see if I have a case. No response yet). I'm sure the KW coilovers on the car are partially responsible but I only did a 20mm drop. I just outfitted it with some new tires and changed the alignment specs so we will see if that makes a difference. The next letdown is the command center…..it's not intuitive and seems antiquated when compared to the Audi MMI. I also use my Apple phone when directions are needed. For a car that cost north of 100K, I cannot believe it doesn't come standard with parking sensors. If any car ever needed them it's the CLS. I still have a difficult time judging how far I can pull into my garage without hitting the wall.
What's next? Well how about lackluster power delivery. For a car that has 550hp it's a little too relaxed and the gearbox is often confused. I recently drove a 2014 E550 coupe and it felt spunkier and had a much better throttle response. I've put up with this annoyance long enough and the car goes in Tuesday for downpipes and a tune…..hope it helps. Let's end this rant with the interior. At first glance it looks pretty impressive but on closer inspection the material selection looks less expensive than my old E55. Was Mercedes trying to save a buck?
Not going to bail on this car yet. I've always hung on to girls that only had looks going for them, so why should a car be any different? Hopefully injecting a little adrenaline into this AMG will win me over……we will see.
I had to LOL at confused gearbox......I kept imagining "okay what gear do you want? what should I do? you want me to do what??"
Regarding this forum, since vendors of all kinds have taken over, I come visit no more than a couple of times a month these days. Opening the gates to vendors like this defeats the purpose of this forum. Is there a way to keep them in a separate section of this site so we know where to go to see what they have to offer and where to go when we don't?





I really wish I could say I loved mine but I don't. Oh, where to start? Actually before I rip the CLS a new one, let me mention a few positive attributes. First, the car is visually stunning at rest or rolling. I get endless compliments on the incredible appearance of this AMG. Elegant, stylish, striking and aggressive are just a few of the adjectives people use when talking about this car. The other item that Mercedes got right was the exhaust note……..this thing purrs like a lion.
On to the disappointing attributes. First, the CLS replaced a much loved 2005 E55 that was massaged with a number of Kleemann software and hardware items. That car was a beast when it needed to be and a great city and highway cruiser the rest of the time. It's only faults were its vague steering and the slush box (although it fit the car's personality well). I expected the CLS to be a huge upgrade over the old and inferior E55 but it's not working out that way. First, the suspension in the CLS is downright abusive. Road imperfections are not absorbed by the suspension but transmitted through the entire car. I actually think that some of my dental fillings are loosening (pm'ed Pertplus to see if I have a case. No response yet). I'm sure the KW coilovers on the car are partially responsible but I only did a 20mm drop. I just outfitted it with some new tires and changed the alignment specs so we will see if that makes a difference. The next letdown is the command center…..it's not intuitive and seems antiquated when compared to the Audi MMI. I also use my Apple phone when directions are needed. For a car that cost north of 100K, I cannot believe it doesn't come standard with parking sensors. If any car ever needed them it's the CLS. I still have a difficult time judging how far I can pull into my garage without hitting the wall.
What's next? Well how about lackluster power delivery. For a car that has 550hp it's a little too relaxed and the gearbox is often confused. I recently drove a 2014 E550 coupe and it felt spunkier and had a much better throttle response. I've put up with this annoyance long enough and the car goes in Tuesday for downpipes and a tune…..hope it helps. Let's end this rant with the interior. At first glance it looks pretty impressive but on closer inspection the material selection looks less expensive than my old E55. Was Mercedes trying to save a buck?
Not going to bail on this car yet. I've always hung on to girls that only had looks going for them, so why should a car be any different? Hopefully injecting a little adrenaline into this AMG will win me over……we will see.

I cant even remember my CLS63TT- way back in 2011 but I agree with you on most points in regards to a stock unit. A tune will change the throttle no doubt. The Comand definitely needs love as well and I hear in 2015 it gets it but its years too late. The steering on the 2012 was numb but Benz fixed their racks and their electronics in 2013 and my SL is far more on point than my 2012 CLS or 2012 E63. I really think you need the rings in your life = RS7
Yeah I got one, its been awesome for month 1 LOL.... I keep forgetting to change the sig as its too much to do and I change cars too much.





I really wish I could say I loved mine but I don't. Oh, where to start? Actually before I rip the CLS a new one, let me mention a few positive attributes. First, the car is visually stunning at rest or rolling. I get endless compliments on the incredible appearance of this AMG. Elegant, stylish, striking and aggressive are just a few of the adjectives people use when talking about this car. The other item that Mercedes got right was the exhaust note……..this thing purrs like a lion.
On to the disappointing attributes. First, the CLS replaced a much loved 2005 E55 that was massaged with a number of Kleemann software and hardware items. That car was a beast when it needed to be and a great city and highway cruiser the rest of the time. It's only faults were its vague steering and the slush box (although it fit the car's personality well). I expected the CLS to be a huge upgrade over the old and inferior E55 but it's not working out that way. First, the suspension in the CLS is downright abusive. Road imperfections are not absorbed by the suspension but transmitted through the entire car. I actually think that some of my dental fillings are loosening (pm'ed Pertplus to see if I have a case. No response yet). I'm sure the KW coilovers on the car are partially responsible but I only did a 20mm drop. I just outfitted it with some new tires and changed the alignment specs so we will see if that makes a difference. The next letdown is the command center…..it's not intuitive and seems antiquated when compared to the Audi MMI. I also use my Apple phone when directions are needed. For a car that cost north of 100K, I cannot believe it doesn't come standard with parking sensors. If any car ever needed them it's the CLS. I still have a difficult time judging how far I can pull into my garage without hitting the wall.
What's next? Well how about lackluster power delivery. For a car that has 550hp it's a little too relaxed and the gearbox is often confused. I recently drove a 2014 E550 coupe and it felt spunkier and had a much better throttle response. I've put up with this annoyance long enough and the car goes in Tuesday for downpipes and a tune…..hope it helps. Let's end this rant with the interior. At first glance it looks pretty impressive but on closer inspection the material selection looks less expensive than my old E55. Was Mercedes trying to save a buck?
Not going to bail on this car yet. I've always hung on to girls that only had looks going for them, so why should a car be any different? Hopefully injecting a little adrenaline into this AMG will win me over……we will see.








Regarding this forum, since vendors of all kinds have taken over, I come visit no more than a couple of times a month these days. Opening the gates to vendors like this defeats the purpose of this forum. Is there a way to keep them in a separate section of this site so we know where to go to see what they have to offer and where to go when we don't?
no sh#t. why do we have to sift through the damn venders posts spamming there crap products everywhere...
i say get them out of here all together. or at least put their posts into their own section(where we wont have to look at them)
hello???
is anybody listening to this????

I really wish I could say I loved mine but I don't. Oh, where to start? Actually before I rip the CLS a new one, let me mention a few positive attributes. First, the car is visually stunning at rest or rolling. I get endless compliments on the incredible appearance of this AMG. Elegant, stylish, striking and aggressive are just a few of the adjectives people use when talking about this car. The other item that Mercedes got right was the exhaust note……..this thing purrs like a lion.
On to the disappointing attributes. First, the CLS replaced a much loved 2005 E55 that was massaged with a number of Kleemann software and hardware items. That car was a beast when it needed to be and a great city and highway cruiser the rest of the time. It's only faults were its vague steering and the slush box (although it fit the car's personality well). I expected the CLS to be a huge upgrade over the old and inferior E55 but it's not working out that way. First, the suspension in the CLS is downright abusive. Road imperfections are not absorbed by the suspension but transmitted through the entire car. I actually think that some of my dental fillings are loosening (pm'ed Pertplus to see if I have a case. No response yet). I'm sure the KW coilovers on the car are partially responsible but I only did a 20mm drop. I just outfitted it with some new tires and changed the alignment specs so we will see if that makes a difference. The next letdown is the command center…..it's not intuitive and seems antiquated when compared to the Audi MMI. I also use my Apple phone when directions are needed. For a car that cost north of 100K, I cannot believe it doesn't come standard with parking sensors. If any car ever needed them it's the CLS. I still have a difficult time judging how far I can pull into my garage without hitting the wall.
What's next? Well how about lackluster power delivery. For a car that has 550hp it's a little too relaxed and the gearbox is often confused. I recently drove a 2014 E550 coupe and it felt spunkier and had a much better throttle response. I've put up with this annoyance long enough and the car goes in Tuesday for downpipes and a tune…..hope it helps. Let's end this rant with the interior. At first glance it looks pretty impressive but on closer inspection the material selection looks less expensive than my old E55. Was Mercedes trying to save a buck?
Not going to bail on this car yet. I've always hung on to girls that only had looks going for them, so why should a car be any different? Hopefully injecting a little adrenaline into this AMG will win me over……we will see.








