release date of CLS63???
600+ HP
twin-turbo 6.0-liter V12
http://www.mbcanada.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8582
Theres some unbadged pics up to.
It would totally pi$$ off the guys who spent near 200K for an SL65 to have them plop the same motor in a CLS for anything less than mid hundreds.
It's E63 and CLS63 all the way this year......not even really a debate anymore I thought.
Course would I want that motor, you bet your (*&(&*!!!
Just not gonna happen, without monster cash I am afraid.
Thanks though.
not to change the thread
but are you taking the euro delivery of the CLS55?
how did you swing that, i thought no euro for AMG's
Yes, originally we ordered a CLS500 for Euro delivery, it wasn't on the Euro program, you can still order any vehicle and pick it up at the factory but you don't get the discount. Just 2 weeks ago MBZ added the CLS to the Euro program so we changed our order to the 55
Here is the list of cars for Euro delivery... CLS hasn't been updated yet
Link to Euro Cars
Last edited by Kevin M.; Feb 12, 2006 at 02:25 PM.
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youre probably right, in fact I am sure you are right, but I am hoping against all hope that you are wrong.
I, for one, am not sure that the NA engine will give us as much as we already have with the 55K engine, and I certainly hope that it doesnt go the route of the M5 where it takes more than a 1/4 mile and 120mph to catch an engine that was released 3 years ago in 2003.
I dont want to sound like a broken record, but the idea of winding out an M5 type NA motor to 5500-8500 to have fun with it just doesnt seem like fun to me. I've mentioned the M5 owner's dilemma - to show that you have a faster car than the CLS/E55 you have to risk your license and possible jail time.
For the CLS/E55 owner he dominates the M5 every day in regular every day acceleration (not handling or anything else), and this is becoming a major thorn in the side of the M5 owners, as those who frequent their board will attest. To have waited so long for their supercar (and I am a BMW fan as well) only to have it be overshadowed by the 3 year old MB 55k engine in anything under 100 mph is a difficult pill for them to swallow.
Yes I live in Florida where there are ZERO twisties so I will never be able to appreciate or have fun with the M5 chassis, so the CLS/E55's are a better bet for me than the M5.
So unless the CLS/E63 NA engine is a killer off the line, its not gonna work for me or for a bunch of people who enjoy the grunt of a stock 55k motor (and of course for those who want to mod, well the 55k is a simple one to tweak as we all know).
And a request to all of you MB AMG fans out there, please dont overhype this new engine the way I believe Gustav did with the M5 - I feel he created expectations that the car just could not deliver on.
And as we all know in terms of creating an exceptional first time user experience, it is critical to under-sell and over-deliver; so lets keep it that way and maybe this new engine will surprise us all and kick some *** when it arrives.
personally I hope it doesnt - I knew I definitely wanted one of the last CLS55's that would be available, and I need to keep my resale value of my new CLS55 way up there LOL










