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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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There is only one sensor for the rear wheels, which is attached to an aluminum bracket that is in turn anchored to the steel frame with two bolts. The bracket is very light and is not a load bearing structure. If you notch the holes, lower the bracket, and replace the bolts (and tighten them of course) it will not go anywhere. The flanges on the nuts will keep a strong grip even with vibration, plus gravity will help keep the bracket in the lower position.

Even if the bracket slipped back, it would not cause any harm as the car would just rise up to the original position.

Newton22, you must not have a W219 or W211. There may be a way to lower the rear by bending the aluminum bracket itself but I didn't know how to do it and wasn't about to experiment. I am not familiar with the other MBZ models... some may have have easier adjustments for the rear end.

No washers needed for the rear on the CLS. One could try to remove the bracket and lift it with washers, but I'm not sure if it would raise or lower the car. I suspect the former otherwise no one would have discovered the dremel solution.

Bipasha, let us know how your ground - fender heights change after the lowering. You should expect a modest rise in the front after lowering the rear because of weight redistribution. I would up adding an extra washer to each front to compensate, this maintained the initial height when I lowered the front only. And of course post some after pics!

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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Here are some pictures. I forgot to take before and after pictures...but i guess some of you already have an idea.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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umm...

ya...
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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three washers. Again, my bad...about the before and after pics. Before i could have fitted both 2 fingers between the gap...including the pinky finger. Now i cant even fit 2 fingers in the gap...so i guess you get the idea. Yes...i will be adding just oneeeee more washer. But i dont wanna drill out the existing bolt. Any ideas? How does Loctite work? Good? -RiCH
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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first two pictures, you can notice the front is considerably lower then it would be vs stock.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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uh huh...

pics...kinda blurry...home depot 6mm nut
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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your camera probably has a button for close up shots. on the sony, its a little flower in a flowerpot. once you apply the button, the pics will come out clear.

I see you have the painted sidemarkers. Now on ebay you can get the euro-clears... which may look even better. good job.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Dogshine
your camera probably has a button for close up shots. on the sony, its a little flower in a flowerpot. once you apply the button, the pics will come out clear.

I see you have the painted sidemarkers. Now on ebay you can get the euro-clears... which may look even better. good job.
thanks...ya they got the euro clear side markers, i like the painted ones better....they also look much better when lite up in the night
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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is it me, or do those side markers when lite up at night remind you of the orange cream lifesaver candys?
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ekovalsky
Newton22, you must not have a W219 or W211. There may be a way to lower the rear by bending the aluminum bracket itself but I didn't know how to do it and wasn't about to experiment. I am not familiar with the other MBZ models... some may have have easier adjustments for the rear end.
Sorry about that. I wasn't familiar with the 219s or 211s, but I thought MBZ designed all the airmatics the same. Yes, its incredibly easy with the W220.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by newton22
Sorry about that. I wasn't familiar with the 219s or 211s, but I thought MBZ designed all the airmatics the same. Yes, its incredibly easy with the W220.
Would have been nice if the W219 rear lowered as easily as the front, which must be the case with the W220. Actually the dremel work was easy to do, just tedious. And it is always unsettling lying underneath a jacked up car

Do you know if the W221 has the same ride height adjustments as the W220 ? I saw a really nice 2007 S class at the gym today with great looking 20" wheels... but it looked jacked up and really needs to be lowered 1.5-2".
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Looks awesome Bipasha! I'd apply some Loctite to that bolt particularly if you add another washer -- which you'll probably need to do once you drop the rear end.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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thats an interesting concept, if you will need another washer once the back lowers, but i wonder if it applys to this situation since if you put more weight in the car, it will raise to the height preset in the ecu based off of the measurement from the sensors. the front and rear potentially will be independent based on that concept. pls advise, bipasasha once you figure it out. i'm guessing the front will remain the same.

bipasha- how about some pics of the front that are lit in the day? (its kinda hard to see what gap is present because the tire and gap are dark)
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Bipasha493, I just had mine lowered today via the washers. Do you notice the ride is a little harsher? By the way, I was there when they lowered it and didnt see them drill anything... what's all this talk about dremel?
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Bipasha493, I just had mine lowered today via the washers. Do you notice the ride is a little harsher? By the way, I was there when they lowered it and didnt see them drill anything... what's all this talk about dremel?
yes i do, especially on the highway. Its not noticeable if you dont pay real hard attention to it. As for the brackets holding the bolts in the rear, i dunno...i have to jack up the rear problaby tonight to check it out.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ekovalsky
Looks awesome Bipasha! I'd apply some Loctite to that bolt particularly if you add another washer -- which you'll probably need to do once you drop the rear end.
thanks man, ya im gponna order loctite? is it red?
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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loctite is red, blue and green.

i think blue is the lightest, red is what you prob want, and green is like cement.

go w red. its at any hardware store.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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how do i apply it? jus dab it over the end of the bolt and in the middle of the nut?
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oh and what if u wanna remove the nut in the future, will it be hard to unscrew with the Loctite?
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hey dogshine, lets see some pics of your ride now
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my sidemarkers do not light up anymore. i think its coz i had the daytime running lights deactivated. do u have DRLs on yours?
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my sidemarkers do not light up anymore. i think its coz i had the daytime running lights deactivated. do u have DRLs on yours?
Nope...no day time running lamps here
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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just get the loctite on the threads and youre cool. red will be fine. like i said, if you put green on, you'll have trouble.
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hey dogshine, lets see some pics of your ride now
heres a couple on the inside....

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I think he meant lets see how your car looks lowered? Am I right?
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