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030 or just new wheels
I will decide in the next 2 weeks to place my order on a CLS63.
I am trying to decide if I should order the 030 option.
I love the wheels. 030
I hate the standard 63 wheels.
Don't need the fancy steering wheel
Don't need the 186 limiter
Don't need the firmer suspension
Don't need better brakes - never will track the car
Limited Slip
Somebody says this makes the car squirmy around corners? Is this true?
I would love better traction of the line, but based on the lower low end torque, I don't know if limited slip would help on a straight line race.
After market wheels would cost 7K (Lorinser Lm5).
So the 030 at 9,500 is really a pretty good deal.
What do you think?
Do you think the suspension is too harsh for somebody who takes clients and passengers all the time?
Thanks for your imput. Getting a little excited
I am trying to decide if I should order the 030 option.
I love the wheels. 030
I hate the standard 63 wheels.
Don't need the fancy steering wheel
Don't need the 186 limiter
Don't need the firmer suspension
Don't need better brakes - never will track the car
Limited Slip
Somebody says this makes the car squirmy around corners? Is this true?
I would love better traction of the line, but based on the lower low end torque, I don't know if limited slip would help on a straight line race.
After market wheels would cost 7K (Lorinser Lm5).
So the 030 at 9,500 is really a pretty good deal.
What do you think?
Do you think the suspension is too harsh for somebody who takes clients and passengers all the time?
Thanks for your imput. Getting a little excited
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...the difference in price between the 030 and the wheels alone is small enough that you might as well get the whole package for the sake of additional value in resale and uniqueness plus the perks of the additonal equipment
....that is IF the ride isn't much harsher with the 030, someone should be able to answer that question for you
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I was in the same situation as you a month ago. However, there were no 030 around in the color I wanted. I'm kind of glad I didn't get since, I got new wheels. I probably would have bought new wheels even if I bought the 63 with the 030. Either way my friend, I'm sure you'll be more than happy with either or. The car is fun and definitely gets the attention it deserves. Be sure to post when you get it.
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bocacls63,
Thanks for your post.
You mentioned you are glad you didn't get the 030. Is it because you would have changed wheels anyways? Did you want the LSD or any of the other upgrades to the CLS?
What kinda of wheels did you get and how much did it cost?
Does your tire monitoring system work?
Thanks.
amgBG
Thanks for your post.
You mentioned you are glad you didn't get the 030. Is it because you would have changed wheels anyways? Did you want the LSD or any of the other upgrades to the CLS?
What kinda of wheels did you get and how much did it cost?
Does your tire monitoring system work?
Thanks.
amgBG
I was in the same situation as you a month ago. However, there were no 030 around in the color I wanted. I'm kind of glad I didn't get since, I got new wheels. I probably would have bought new wheels even if I bought the 63 with the 030. Either way my friend, I'm sure you'll be more than happy with either or. The car is fun and definitely gets the attention it deserves. Be sure to post when you get it.
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I test drove both, extensively. And to be honest, I didn't really dig the 030 and I decided against it. I experienced the corner thing you mentioned. The tail was waay too loose for my taste around everyday corners. If you're not ever going to the track I would stay away from 030 and just invest the money in some nice wheels. You can probably sell your old wheels for a good chunk of change. Heck i might even buy them from you just to use the tires
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amgBG,
Like you, I didn't need the fancy steering wheel, the 186 limiter, the firmer suspension or the better brakes. I just didn't feel it was worth the additional $9,500.00. I did get the Premium 2. I saved$4,600 from the sticker price, and my dealership wasn't going to discount an 030 that much (max $2,500) if they had to order it, which to me in reality I would have paid an additional $11,600 for the 030.
Actually, at first I didn't have any intention on getting new wheels. I assured, my wife no mods on this car. Been there done that. Now, that was last month. LOL
I bought Maya MRS 3pc with w/Continental contact 3 tires from Charles at wheelautohaus.com for $4,700.00 mounted and shipped. Locally, they wanted a lot more than that. These wheels get a lot of compliments on the road. Here's a link to the images I posted with more detailed info on the wheels. https://mbworld.org/forums/c219/175049-new-wheels.html
The tire monitoring system does NOT work with my new wheels. I was told that approximately, 95% of all aftermarket wheels will not work with the TPMS sensor. The sensor is built in to the stock valve stem on the factory wheels.
As soon as I posted my new wheels here I had a offer from another forum member wanting to buy my old wheels which had 700 miles on them. I sold them for $2,500. The 030 wheels will certainly sell for more.
Again, you'll be pleased with whatever choice you make..
Bocacls63
Like you, I didn't need the fancy steering wheel, the 186 limiter, the firmer suspension or the better brakes. I just didn't feel it was worth the additional $9,500.00. I did get the Premium 2. I saved$4,600 from the sticker price, and my dealership wasn't going to discount an 030 that much (max $2,500) if they had to order it, which to me in reality I would have paid an additional $11,600 for the 030.
Actually, at first I didn't have any intention on getting new wheels. I assured, my wife no mods on this car. Been there done that. Now, that was last month. LOL
I bought Maya MRS 3pc with w/Continental contact 3 tires from Charles at wheelautohaus.com for $4,700.00 mounted and shipped. Locally, they wanted a lot more than that. These wheels get a lot of compliments on the road. Here's a link to the images I posted with more detailed info on the wheels. https://mbworld.org/forums/c219/175049-new-wheels.html
The tire monitoring system does NOT work with my new wheels. I was told that approximately, 95% of all aftermarket wheels will not work with the TPMS sensor. The sensor is built in to the stock valve stem on the factory wheels.
As soon as I posted my new wheels here I had a offer from another forum member wanting to buy my old wheels which had 700 miles on them. I sold them for $2,500. The 030 wheels will certainly sell for more.
Again, you'll be pleased with whatever choice you make..
Bocacls63
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I chose 030 because the look, I really have no clue how the performance compares, the brakes are amazing and I have not utilized the 186 thingy YET..LOL I think the value you get is definately worth every penny. The 030 cars are just difficult to obtain making them less likely to be discounted or even available in the combo you desire.. I love the wheel, and the rims are insane
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Well, I do have the 030 option and I must start by telling you, The wheels and brakes headed me into it. In my Last car that drove very well, I went from Factory 18's to aftermarket 19's and it has never been the same. Ride was worse, harder to control and I do drive hard and heavy. I swore I would not get anything else except for Manufacturer's rims, there is a big difference in stability at speeds and drifting of the car.
I, unlike most will not track the car, yet I WILL hit that 186 Limiter, shortly after break in. Promise.
The major advantage that took me into the 63 and not the 55, was the 7 speed. I had a good feeling that this would take the unecessary harshness out of the car and it has. Even with the regular 500's it does give a harsher ride, than an Audi. This is Completely true, with the 030, you can definitely take clients in the car, as it will drive exceptionally smooth, almost like a cadillac. UNTIL, you blip the throttle. Then the beast will rear his head and literally destroy pretty much everything you can come across.
The Brake upgrade takes the harsh bite out of the brakes and you do feel that they have much more control than the standards.
Yes, I can throw the car around at will with Traction off, but with it on, it will not really break loose, at all. This translates to much less worries when driving normal.
Since the 7 Speed is much smoother, it has the impression of being a slower car to the 55 owners, but it feels instantaneous fast, it is hard to see the gauge that fast, its a must to read the mph digitally and even then it's like 20,50, 70, 100 boom.
The car is exactly what I wanted, drives like a Bentley and then rips a Porsche,, at will. There are many people that will not truly drive this car, the way it should be driven and for those..... Do Not waste the time with the 030 package. For me, it is well worth it.
I, unlike most will not track the car, yet I WILL hit that 186 Limiter, shortly after break in. Promise.
The major advantage that took me into the 63 and not the 55, was the 7 speed. I had a good feeling that this would take the unecessary harshness out of the car and it has. Even with the regular 500's it does give a harsher ride, than an Audi. This is Completely true, with the 030, you can definitely take clients in the car, as it will drive exceptionally smooth, almost like a cadillac. UNTIL, you blip the throttle. Then the beast will rear his head and literally destroy pretty much everything you can come across.
The Brake upgrade takes the harsh bite out of the brakes and you do feel that they have much more control than the standards.
Yes, I can throw the car around at will with Traction off, but with it on, it will not really break loose, at all. This translates to much less worries when driving normal.
Since the 7 Speed is much smoother, it has the impression of being a slower car to the 55 owners, but it feels instantaneous fast, it is hard to see the gauge that fast, its a must to read the mph digitally and even then it's like 20,50, 70, 100 boom.
The car is exactly what I wanted, drives like a Bentley and then rips a Porsche,, at will. There are many people that will not truly drive this car, the way it should be driven and for those..... Do Not waste the time with the 030 package. For me, it is well worth it.
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As Juice said above, he chose it for the looks. The rims are awesome for MB. Even though there are some wicked Carllson, Lorinser, etc.. It is not worth the trade off of ride, stability, cornering, rubbing and even Factory warranty.
When you get the Bigger Brakes in the 030, you literally can see that you would be lucky to get a finger in between the rim and the rotors. You just see allll brakes, it is wicked.
Plus they are staggered 255 Front and 285 Rear.
As Juice said above, he chose it for the looks. The rims are awesome for MB. Even though there are some wicked Carllson, Lorinser, etc.. It is not worth the trade off of ride, stability, cornering, rubbing and even Factory warranty.
When you get the Bigger Brakes in the 030, you literally can see that you would be lucky to get a finger in between the rim and the rotors. You just see allll brakes, it is wicked.
Plus they are staggered 255 Front and 285 Rear.
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If you don't install them, you will get the warning light constantly in your instrument cluster. I had the guys at Status install my wheels with the TPMS, and it works fine. They are in Hermosa Beach, so about 45 minutes from the OC. They also have a great selection of wheels.
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If you are taking more than one client or passenger at a time, i would not even consider the CLS. The back seats are just plain horrible for any adult other than a midget.
E63 maybe?
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I will decide in the next 2 weeks to place my order on a CLS63.
I am trying to decide if I should order the 030 option.
I love the wheels. 030
I hate the standard 63 wheels.
Don't need the fancy steering wheel
Don't need the 186 limiter
Don't need the firmer suspension
Don't need better brakes - never will track the car
Limited Slip
Somebody says this makes the car squirmy around corners? Is this true?
I would love better traction of the line, but based on the lower low end torque, I don't know if limited slip would help on a straight line race.
After market wheels would cost 7K (Lorinser Lm5).
So the 030 at 9,500 is really a pretty good deal.
What do you think?
Do you think the suspension is too harsh for somebody who takes clients and passengers all the time?
Thanks for your imput. Getting a little excited![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I am trying to decide if I should order the 030 option.
I love the wheels. 030
I hate the standard 63 wheels.
Don't need the fancy steering wheel
Don't need the 186 limiter
Don't need the firmer suspension
Don't need better brakes - never will track the car
Limited Slip
Somebody says this makes the car squirmy around corners? Is this true?
I would love better traction of the line, but based on the lower low end torque, I don't know if limited slip would help on a straight line race.
After market wheels would cost 7K (Lorinser Lm5).
So the 030 at 9,500 is really a pretty good deal.
What do you think?
Do you think the suspension is too harsh for somebody who takes clients and passengers all the time?
Thanks for your imput. Getting a little excited
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Here is my take on the rims situation.... I would get the 030 package as it will definately make your car more unique and get you the rims you want. If you get aftermarket rims, its much harder for you to sell them at a decent price... If you get bored of your OEM's, i found that its much easier and faster to sell...
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amgBG,
Like you, I didn't need the fancy steering wheel, the 186 limiter, the firmer suspension or the better brakes. I just didn't feel it was worth the additional $9,500.00. I did get the Premium 2. I saved$4,600 from the sticker price, and my dealership wasn't going to discount an 030 that much (max $2,500) if they had to order it, which to me in reality I would have paid an additional $11,600 for the 030.
Actually, at first I didn't have any intention on getting new wheels. I assured, my wife no mods on this car. Been there done that. Now, that was last month. LOL
I bought Maya MRS 3pc with w/Continental contact 3 tires from Charles at wheelautohaus.com for $4,700.00 mounted and shipped. Locally, they wanted a lot more than that. These wheels get a lot of compliments on the road. Here's a link to the images I posted with more detailed info on the wheels. https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=175049
The tire monitoring system does NOT work with my new wheels. I was told that approximately, 95% of all aftermarket wheels will not work with the TPMS sensor. The sensor is built in to the stock valve stem on the factory wheels.
As soon as I posted my new wheels here I had a offer from another forum member wanting to buy my old wheels which had 700 miles on them. I sold them for $2,500. The 030 wheels will certainly sell for more.
Again, you'll be pleased with whatever choice you make..
Bocacls63
Like you, I didn't need the fancy steering wheel, the 186 limiter, the firmer suspension or the better brakes. I just didn't feel it was worth the additional $9,500.00. I did get the Premium 2. I saved$4,600 from the sticker price, and my dealership wasn't going to discount an 030 that much (max $2,500) if they had to order it, which to me in reality I would have paid an additional $11,600 for the 030.
Actually, at first I didn't have any intention on getting new wheels. I assured, my wife no mods on this car. Been there done that. Now, that was last month. LOL
I bought Maya MRS 3pc with w/Continental contact 3 tires from Charles at wheelautohaus.com for $4,700.00 mounted and shipped. Locally, they wanted a lot more than that. These wheels get a lot of compliments on the road. Here's a link to the images I posted with more detailed info on the wheels. https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=175049
The tire monitoring system does NOT work with my new wheels. I was told that approximately, 95% of all aftermarket wheels will not work with the TPMS sensor. The sensor is built in to the stock valve stem on the factory wheels.
As soon as I posted my new wheels here I had a offer from another forum member wanting to buy my old wheels which had 700 miles on them. I sold them for $2,500. The 030 wheels will certainly sell for more.
Again, you'll be pleased with whatever choice you make..
Bocacls63
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You only got 4600 off the sticker. Let me guess they sold you on the limited supply and hard to get sales pitch. Car market is way down. I would have to have at leat 10-15k off sticker. I had friend buy a 2006 SL55AMG 4 months ago new at the dealer. sticker was 120k plus plus around 131 total . He paid 77k cash!!
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You only got 4600 off the sticker. Let me guess they sold you on the limited supply and hard to get sales pitch. Car market is way down. I would have to have at leat 10-15k off sticker. I had friend buy a 2006 SL55AMG 4 months ago new at the dealer. sticker was 120k plus plus around 131 total . He paid 77k cash!!
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Got 25k off a 2005 SL, almost fully loaded with AMG sport in Brill. Silver, in 2005 on a 27 month lease...in LA. Only one out of the 12 dealers in the LA area would bite though. That SL55 price seems crazy though.
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You only got 4600 off the sticker. Let me guess they sold you on the limited supply and hard to get sales pitch. Car market is way down. I would have to have at leat 10-15k off sticker. I had friend buy a 2006 SL55AMG 4 months ago new at the dealer. sticker was 120k plus plus around 131 total . He paid 77k cash!!
I want to see the paperwork on this deal..........
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