got a problem guys... need some advice
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CLS55 AMG
got a problem guys... need some advice
Basically i was gone on business for about 4 weeks and hadnt driven the car in that time... i got home the other day and started the car, everything was normal but when i turn the steering wheel to manouever out of my garage i hear a very weird noise ... i cant quite describe it but it sounds like metal scraping... When i parked the car nothing last time there was no such noise...
Weird thing is that the noise happens only when i turn the steering wheel in the first half lock in each direction and then disappears, and also after driving for about 5 miles it dissappeares competely (that is until i park the car and drive off the next day when it reappears)!!
I took the car to the dealer where they put in on a stand and there is no rubbing or anything. they said that the noise was most likely because of insufficient amount of oil in the hydraulic system... apparently they filled it up and returned the car to me yesterday night...
I just got in my garage today to take the car for a spin and teh noise is still here... what do i do?? anyone experience this?
P.S... just before i went on my trip the car was in the dealer because of insufficient oil in the transmission... the check engine light had come on and the transmission was only in 2nd gear (it was in safe mode)... dealer topped up transmission oil and warning light went off and it seemed to work ok, but then i had to put it in the garage so do you think this is somehow connected with my recent problem?
thanks
Weird thing is that the noise happens only when i turn the steering wheel in the first half lock in each direction and then disappears, and also after driving for about 5 miles it dissappeares competely (that is until i park the car and drive off the next day when it reappears)!!
I took the car to the dealer where they put in on a stand and there is no rubbing or anything. they said that the noise was most likely because of insufficient amount of oil in the hydraulic system... apparently they filled it up and returned the car to me yesterday night...
I just got in my garage today to take the car for a spin and teh noise is still here... what do i do?? anyone experience this?
P.S... just before i went on my trip the car was in the dealer because of insufficient oil in the transmission... the check engine light had come on and the transmission was only in 2nd gear (it was in safe mode)... dealer topped up transmission oil and warning light went off and it seemed to work ok, but then i had to put it in the garage so do you think this is somehow connected with my recent problem?
thanks
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The thing is the grinding noise comes up when i rotate the steering wheel (also happens when vehicle is in P gear with brakes disengaged), not when i apply the brakes !
Thanks and keep the suggestions coming... i gotta go see my service guy on monday, i just need to know what i gotta talk to him about, and if this is just some temporary glitch from not driving for a long time (although i have done around 300 miles since i came back and the grinding noise is still here)
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i dont think so... car has around 6000 miles and i always abide by advice from the owners manual.. when im driving in the wet i always brake to clean the rotors... as a matter of fact yesterday i did around 10 runs from 0-120-0 mph using hard braking (on an airfield if you must know) and really gave them a good clean...
The thing is the grinding noise comes up when i rotate the steering wheel (also happens when vehicle is in P gear with brakes disengaged), not when i apply the brakes !
Thanks and keep the suggestions coming... i gotta go see my service guy on monday, i just need to know what i gotta talk to him about, and if this is just some temporary glitch from not driving for a long time (although i have done around 300 miles since i came back and the grinding noise is still here)
The thing is the grinding noise comes up when i rotate the steering wheel (also happens when vehicle is in P gear with brakes disengaged), not when i apply the brakes !
Thanks and keep the suggestions coming... i gotta go see my service guy on monday, i just need to know what i gotta talk to him about, and if this is just some temporary glitch from not driving for a long time (although i have done around 300 miles since i came back and the grinding noise is still here)
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If the grinding noise occurs when you turn the wheels, not when the wheels are straight, I suspect the ball bearing or CV joint is not well lubricated or leaking. 
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i dont know what it is , but unless its a mercedes accessory then i dont... car is compltely stock
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I don't think so... what I meant was that you may have some problems w/ the joint between the wheels and control arms and whatnot. The grinding noise becomes easier to hear during the turn as the weight moves to one side to another.
I had '03 E55 that got lemon'd couple years ago and one of the problems was the ball bearing housing on left wheels. It kept leaking... so the ball bearings produced some grinding noise, especially during right turn.
I had '03 E55 that got lemon'd couple years ago and one of the problems was the ball bearing housing on left wheels. It kept leaking... so the ball bearings produced some grinding noise, especially during right turn.
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When you start it from a cold overnight start, unless you wait at least 10 seconds min, they there might be a chance that their is not enough time for the oil to circulate into your steering pump and other areas and causing the sounds.
Since its under warranty, take it to the dealer and ask him to replicate the cold start and hear the noises. You may have to leave it overnight.
What concerns me is that you have only 6k miles and needed transmission oil. Where did it leak out of?
You need a certified AMG factory master mechanic to check out your 55 and find the problem. Don't settle for cheap talk.
Since its under warranty, take it to the dealer and ask him to replicate the cold start and hear the noises. You may have to leave it overnight.
What concerns me is that you have only 6k miles and needed transmission oil. Where did it leak out of?
You need a certified AMG factory master mechanic to check out your 55 and find the problem. Don't settle for cheap talk.
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CLS55 AMG
When you start it from a cold overnight start, unless you wait at least 10 seconds min, they there might be a chance that their is not enough time for the oil to circulate into your steering pump and other areas and causing the sounds.
Since its under warranty, take it to the dealer and ask him to replicate the cold start and hear the noises. You may have to leave it overnight.
What concerns me is that you have only 6k miles and needed transmission oil. Where did it leak out of?
You need a certified AMG factory master mechanic to check out your 55 and find the problem. Don't settle for cheap talk.
Since its under warranty, take it to the dealer and ask him to replicate the cold start and hear the noises. You may have to leave it overnight.
What concerns me is that you have only 6k miles and needed transmission oil. Where did it leak out of?
You need a certified AMG factory master mechanic to check out your 55 and find the problem. Don't settle for cheap talk.
BTW there is only 1 Mercedes sevice in a 200mile radius so i got little choice
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I don't think so... what I meant was that you may have some problems w/ the joint between the wheels and control arms and whatnot. The grinding noise becomes easier to hear during the turn as the weight moves to one side to another.
I had '03 E55 that got lemon'd couple years ago and one of the problems was the ball bearing housing on left wheels. It kept leaking... so the ball bearings produced some grinding noise, especially during right turn.
I had '03 E55 that got lemon'd couple years ago and one of the problems was the ball bearing housing on left wheels. It kept leaking... so the ball bearings produced some grinding noise, especially during right turn.
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If noise is after warmup and the car is stationary the possiblities are:
1. Supercharger (pully or unit)
2. water pump/alternater/power steering pump
3. front/rear bearings (engine & tranny)
4. pullies / belt tensioner
I'll really be surprised if not one of the above. Good luck at the dealer.
1. Supercharger (pully or unit)
2. water pump/alternater/power steering pump
3. front/rear bearings (engine & tranny)
4. pullies / belt tensioner
I'll really be surprised if not one of the above. Good luck at the dealer.
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Basically i was gone on business for about 4 weeks and hadnt driven the car in that time... i got home the other day and started the car, everything was normal but when i turn the steering wheel to manouever out of my garage i hear a very weird noise ... i cant quite describe it but it sounds like metal scraping... When i parked the car nothing last time there was no such noise...
Weird thing is that the noise happens only when i turn the steering wheel in the first half lock in each direction and then disappears, and also after driving for about 5 miles it dissappeares competely (that is until i park the car and drive off the next day when it reappears)!!
I took the car to the dealer where they put in on a stand and there is no rubbing or anything. they said that the noise was most likely because of insufficient amount of oil in the hydraulic system... apparently they filled it up and returned the car to me yesterday night...
I just got in my garage today to take the car for a spin and teh noise is still here... what do i do?? anyone experience this?
P.S... just before i went on my trip the car was in the dealer because of insufficient oil in the transmission... the check engine light had come on and the transmission was only in 2nd gear (it was in safe mode)... dealer topped up transmission oil and warning light went off and it seemed to work ok, but then i had to put it in the garage so do you think this is somehow connected with my recent problem?
thanks
Weird thing is that the noise happens only when i turn the steering wheel in the first half lock in each direction and then disappears, and also after driving for about 5 miles it dissappeares competely (that is until i park the car and drive off the next day when it reappears)!!
I took the car to the dealer where they put in on a stand and there is no rubbing or anything. they said that the noise was most likely because of insufficient amount of oil in the hydraulic system... apparently they filled it up and returned the car to me yesterday night...
I just got in my garage today to take the car for a spin and teh noise is still here... what do i do?? anyone experience this?
P.S... just before i went on my trip the car was in the dealer because of insufficient oil in the transmission... the check engine light had come on and the transmission was only in 2nd gear (it was in safe mode)... dealer topped up transmission oil and warning light went off and it seemed to work ok, but then i had to put it in the garage so do you think this is somehow connected with my recent problem?
thanks
Is it an humming sound? mine did that during cold start and happens when turning. took it to the dealers and they fixed it. i'll have to go into the service records and get what exactly they did to fix problem
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sounds like you have a hydraulic leak in your steering column. I had the same thing happend to me at around 4k miles. The first time I took it to the dealer they replaced something - sorry can't exactly remember the part, I'll check the paper work. Approx 1 month later I still had the same problem, so the dealer agreed to replace the entire steering system and they gave me a ten year warranty just on the steering system, lol. since then I put on 7k miles, and no funny noise regardless if the engine is cold or not.
Good luck
Good luck
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There is a bulletin for this!!
...everything was normal but when i turn the steering wheel to manouever out of my garage i hear a very weird noise ... i cant quite describe it but it sounds like metal scraping... When i parked the car nothing last time there was no such noise...
Weird thing is that the noise happens only when i turn the steering wheel in the first half lock in each direction and then disappears, and also after driving for about 5 miles it dissappeares competely (that is until i park the car and drive off the next day when it reappears)!!
Weird thing is that the noise happens only when i turn the steering wheel in the first half lock in each direction and then disappears, and also after driving for about 5 miles it dissappeares competely (that is until i park the car and drive off the next day when it reappears)!!
This was only heard at "quiet places," such as entering into my gated commmunity, when leaving the drive at home and the most easily heard method, when next to a wall when moving the steering wheel off center produced this, in my case small creaking noise.
I lived with it for about 1k miles before i brought it up at service, sure enough there was a bulletin
that my tech pulled up and described it as a washer that is installed "on/near where the rack mounts to the tie rods ," that, in his words literally "lifts the entire rack about 3/4" to prevent the 'creaking/metal' rubbing sounds," this also adressed the slightest .1 degree of dead play i had at center of the steering wheel when on the freeway.BTW this deveopled over time, my 2007 CLS63 AMG now drives like it did at 100miles; just faster (no charcoal filters)!!
PM me if anybody needs the service advisors/techs/dealers name...
Hope this was helpful!
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2006 CLS55 IWC
Had the same issue
Turns out it was a simple fix. Steering fluid was left too low after they had previously worked on my front suspension. Dealer figured it our right away and the sound has been gone for 5-6 months.
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CLS55 AMG
sounds like you have a hydraulic leak in your steering column. I had the same thing happend to me at around 4k miles. The first time I took it to the dealer they replaced something - sorry can't exactly remember the part, I'll check the paper work. Approx 1 month later I still had the same problem, so the dealer agreed to replace the entire steering system and they gave me a ten year warranty just on the steering system, lol. since then I put on 7k miles, and no funny noise regardless if the engine is cold or not.
Good luck
Good luck
hydraulic leak it is according to the dealer... they put some oil in the hydraulic system last week but there was a leak and the level dropped again... strangely enough it drops to a certain level and doesnt leak afterwards... apparently dealer will be replacing the hydraulic pump and something on the steering column... part arrives next week and he said its 3 hours work... fingers crossed THANKS to everyone so far
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CLS55 AMG
btw there are only 9 CLS55s (0 CLS63s) in teh whole of bulgaria, so their knowledge on servicing these cars is quite basic
