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Old 02-23-2009, 08:22 PM
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are there any mods i can put on my cls55amg... I am looking to make around 600whp... to the wheels... if so what can i do, and where can i get it form

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are there any mods i can put on my cls55amg... I am looking to make around 600whp... to the wheels... if so what can i do, and where can i get it form

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Intake,pulley, exhaust, heat exchanger, and tune would be my choice.


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Originally Posted by A Robinson
Intake,pulley, exhaust, heat exchanger, and tune would be my choice.


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the above list plus headers should be good for mid 6's hp. have fun keeping that on the road.
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the above list plus headers should be good for mid 6's hp. have fun keeping that on the road.
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the above list plus headers should be good for mid 6's hp. have fun keeping that on the road.
I have problems keeping mine on the road "STOCK" But its a whole alot of fun
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are there any mods i can put on my cls55amg... I am looking to make around 600whp... to the wheels... if so what can i do, and where can i get it form

thanks
600 WHP seems a bit ambitious..
don't know if anybody ever posted a dyno with those numbers without nos

.. sure you'll need a pair of fat boys on top, to get close to
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Will the stock screws move enough air for 600whp?



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600 hp is possible, but it all depends what you want...... and how much you want to spend. We easily bring these cars to 585hp/620 lb ft with our ECU/TCU and 168mm pulley.

It is possible to get more power by using bigger pulleys and tuning for them, but beyond a certain point, so much heat is generated you have to start looking at improving the cooling, which runs into more money. The more you go, the more additions have to be made. At some point one must consider the cost/benefit ratio.... but these engines are great, and much can be done and keep them reliable.
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600 hp is possible, but it all depends what you want...... and how much you want to spend. We easily bring these cars to 585hp/620 lb ft with our ECU/TCU and 168mm pulley.

It is possible to get more power by using bigger pulleys and tuning for them, but beyond a certain point, so much heat is generated you have to start looking at improving the cooling, which runs into more money. The more you go, the more additions have to be made. At some point one must consider the cost/benefit ratio.... but these engines are great, and much can be done and keep them reliable.
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Thank you for the additional information. My primary question was how much power the factory blower can make and at what boost level. Do you offer a heat exchanger in addition to your pulley and tuning upgrades. Also why is there so few catback exhaust systems for this car, or is the stock AMG exhaust system that good? Fundamentally making power with this engine should not be much different than a 2003-2004 Cobra. Pulley,exhaust heat exchanger and tune.


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Thank you for the additional information. My primary question was how much power the factory blower can make and at what boost level. Do you offer a heat exchanger in addition to your pulley and tuning upgrades. Also why is there so few catback exhaust systems for this car, or is the stock AMG exhaust system that good? Fundamentally making power with this engine should not be much different than a 2003-2004 Cobra. Pulley,exhaust heat exchanger and tune.


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The complications with tuning MB/AMG cars is in the ECU. The engine management systems have multiple layers of protection and are not the easiest to get through.

We build all our pulleys custom for each application, and tune the systems for those particular levels of boost. Our most popular pulley is 168mm, but we can go bigger without having to do a heat exchanger. We don't do heat exchangers, but we have some sources if necessary.

There are guys out there who just sell bigger pulleys without tuning for them, but without working with the software the engine can't take advantage of the extra boost. The extra boost just ends up being released, as the car thinks it is in an overboost situation. Without doing a TCU in addition to the ECU/pulley, the software will limit the tq that is transfered to the gearbox.

From my experience with my SL55 and client's cars, I recommend if you are just doing an ECU, you don't need a TCU. But if you add a pulley, a TCU tune is necessary to take advantage of the tq.

As for the lack of exhausts, I think it comes down to the lack of buyers. If they were there, it would be developed. Most AMG/MB guys don't want BIG noise and the stock system gives them what they want. Also, the AMG exhaust is pretty good by itself.

I hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by IngenereAMG
The complications with tuning MB/AMG cars is in the ECU. The engine management systems have multiple layers of protection and are not the easiest to get through.

We build all our pulleys custom for each application, and tune the systems for those particular levels of boost. Our most popular pulley is 168mm, but we can go bigger without having to do a heat exchanger. We don't do heat exchangers, but we have some sources if necessary.

There are guys out there who just sell bigger pulleys without tuning for them, but without working with the software the engine can't take advantage of the extra boost. The extra boost just ends up being released, as the car thinks it is in an overboost situation. Without doing a TCU in addition to the ECU/pulley, the software will limit the tq that is transfered to the gearbox.

From my experience with my SL55 and client's cars, I recommend if you are just doing an ECU, you don't need a TCU. But if you add a pulley, a TCU tune is necessary to take advantage of the tq.

As for the lack of exhausts, I think it comes down to the lack of buyers. If they were there, it would be developed. Most AMG/MB guys don't want BIG noise and the stock system gives them what they want. Also, the AMG exhaust is pretty good by itself.

I hope that helps.
Thats some great information. I think i have found my pulley and tuning Vendor
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Thats some great information. I think i have found my pulley and tuning Vendor
So what size pulley package are we building for you!
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600 WHP seems a bit ambitious..
I agree, its not impossible, but it will take some commitment and a healthy checkbook.
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So what size pulley package are we building for you!

can you PM me pricing for pulley package for CLS 55 also.. thanks
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Originally Posted by itsjdm
are there any mods i can put on my cls55amg... I am looking to make around 600whp... to the wheels... if so what can i do, and where can i get it form

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I have never heard of a 600whp cls
hmm what did jackpro get? 560-570 or something along those lines?
can not remember

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