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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Full Throttle
We all realize you are all excited about your little 335I but please calm down. You almost beat a 4100lb luxury sedan in your little (slow) twin turbo coupe.

I am the one who raced it.. I have a pretty healthy 335i.. My fuel pump just got changed a few months back and i never run race gas so my spark plugs are in good shape. My car runs strong.
Actually my car runs faster the higher speeds we get into. My 3rd and 4 th gear are pretty damn fast!
Old Jul 25, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by X-Vert
My friend has a 09 CLS63 with 20's and we ran it up against a JB3 335i sedan, auto, a few weeks ago. The 335 had intakes, JB3, and straight exhaust from the cats. 1 passanger in the 63, and just the driver in the 335... the bmw instantly jumped on the 63 which started a little late, and put like 2 cars on it up until about 60-70 and the 63 started passsing it, by like 130 the 63 had a bus length on the bmw.

Video will be up soon.

I find that hard to believe unless the 335i isnt running right, or the CLS63 is alot faster than the CLS55.

I thought CLS55 and E55 are faster than there 63 AMG brothers?
Old Jul 25, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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Hey TurboTom,

I see you live on Long Island, would you want to set up some friendly runs to see what "a girl" car can do to your CLS55?? Maybe you will be pictured as a grandmother on video after i am done with you.
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I find that hard to believe unless the 335i isnt running right, or the CLS63 is alot faster than the CLS55.

I thought CLS55 and E55 are faster than there 63 AMG brothers?
I have a video to prove it. 0-60 the 335 instantly jumped like a car length, but after 60 the CLS passed the BMW like it was standing still. I'll post the video up today. This same BMW also put like a car length on a 06 M5 SMG.
Old Jul 25, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by X-Vert
I have a video to prove it. 0-60 the 335 instantly jumped like a car length, but after 60 the CLS passed the BMW like it was standing still. I'll post the video up today. This same BMW also put like a car length on a 06 M5 SMG.
I believe what your saying, but i dont think a properly running 335i with JB3 1.3 on a high boost map would be walked BUS LENGTHS. like i said, alot of factors come into play. I was dead even with a cls55amg 0-90mph abot, my first gear and second gear 'so-so' its my 3rd when my car starts to shine or higher speeds.
If the 335i put a car length on a M5, then your cls63 must be on NOs or someting rofl. Look forward to the video and maybe more info on this 335i to see if its running right? street race is a street race, mostly all fun, anything can happen

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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Ho ho! Why haven't I seen this thread yet.....

We got all these TOUGH speed racers cruising around in the twin-turbo coupes with JB3 1.3326571906571095710957108237836 modules and mapping and race gas maps and no exhaust and super turbos WHAT EVER!

Guy let me know when you're ready to get a BEAT DOWN from a 4800lbs twin-turbo luxury sedan.

I'm in Long Island.
Old Jul 25, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Full Throttle
We all realize you are all excited about your little 335I but please calm down. You almost beat a 4100lb luxury sedan in your little (slow) twin turbo coupe.
You AMG guys are in for a rude awakening, go race a properly running 335i J3 w/supporting mods, you'll be left wondering what happened in stk CLS55/63

They run 117-121 mph traps in the 11's

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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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You AMG guys are in for a rude awakening, go race a properly running 335i J3 w/supporting mods, you'll be left wondering what happened in stk CLS55/63

They run 117-121 mph traps in the 11's
I think it would be pretty close from goinng off of Dragtimes. It seems that most of the 335 JB3's are running in the high 11's with DR's and 100+ octane. Why don't we get a stock CLS63/55 and a BMW JB3 up to Sacramento and we could safely identify the stronger car on that day at that track. Both could run 91 octane with DR's, and the winner will be decided by ET's.... Just throwing out a few thoughts if anyone would be interested . I'll see you there Sean .
Old Jul 25, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Oxygen
Ho ho! Why haven't I seen this thread yet.....

We got all these TOUGH speed racers cruising around in the twin-turbo coupes with JB3 1.3326571906571095710957108237836 modules and mapping and race gas maps and no exhaust and super turbos WHAT EVER!

Guy let me know when you're ready to get a BEAT DOWN from a 4800lbs twin-turbo luxury sedan.

I'm in Long Island.

What are you 12? lol.........
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 01:39 AM
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Here you go guys...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLAonJnNTgg
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 02:22 AM
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Great video! This is going to be fun
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by X-Vert

Hi. Would you like to run me? I am on long island.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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THanks for the video, like i said before, still dont think that 335i is running well. Maybe more info on what verison JB3, what map? but a race is a race. Good work.
I am surprised he beat the M5 more than he did the M3.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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Might have done even better with the windows rolled up ...
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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These are supposed to be some JB3 dyno charts. #4 is impressive ... the rest all seem to fall about the same. hmmm.












Impressive and pretty consistent. (Except for #4)

But I'm still not seeing anything that bests a good driver in a CLS. And the mighty torque is as I thought ... no where near that of the Tq/Weight ratio of the CLS55. (Except #4 )


Take a CLS and play with it even a little without making it a motor melter and we have ... well, I think there's no doubt it's not even close.


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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JustPete

Take a CLS and play with it even a little without making it a motor melter and we have ... well, I think there's no doubt it's not even close.

That's a CLS55 chart? I'd only assume that numbers on the 63 are way up there.

On top of that we didnt race the CLS in M mode, which feels a whole lot different, especially off the jump.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by X-Vert
That's a CLS55 chart? I'd only assume that numbers on the 63 are way up there.

On top of that we didnt race the CLS in M mode, which feels a whole lot different, especially off the jump.
You still didnt respond to my above post. I was asking if you would like to run. I am on Long Island. thanks.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackedout335i
You still didnt respond to my above post. I was asking if you would like to run. I am on Long Island. thanks.
The CLS63 isn't mine. When my boy comes around with it again, we'll probably be running Brisk335, if you wanna join, PM me your number.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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The CLS63 isn't mine. When my boy comes around with it again, we'll probably be running Brisk335, if you wanna join, PM me your number.

I know Brisk personally. He will let me know when its going down.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JustPete
These are supposed to be some JB3 dyno charts. #4 is impressive ... the rest all seem to fall about the same. hmmm.












Impressive and pretty consistent. (Except for #4)

But I'm still not seeing anything that bests a good driver in a CLS. And the mighty torque is as I thought ... no where near that of the Tq/Weight ratio of the CLS55. (Except #4 )


Take a CLS and play with it even a little without making it a motor melter and we have ... well, I think there's no doubt it's not even close.

Those are all mostly BETA maps and pretty old. Te 4th dyno there, a car with most likey DP/FMIC
Norm for a JB3 only 335i can range from about 340-380WHP on a dnyojet depending on different factors.
My cousins E55 on a dynojet made about 411WHP if i remember right just last week. Im guessing cls55's make just as much power.

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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Where is the CLS63 from?? Also have the guy who ran him with the 335i come on here if you could. Thanks.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by X-Vert
The CLS63 isn't mine. When my boy comes around with it again, we'll probably be running Brisk335, if you wanna join, PM me your number.
I would like to see both just JB3 tune vs cls63 and blackedout335i's more modified 335i vs the same car. I also want to see the CLS63 vs E55 because I heard someone saying the CLS63 will beat my E55 . Stock vs Stock I believe my e55 will win but thats why we RACE !!!! To see which car is faster.....
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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I would like to see both just JB3 tune vs cls63 and blackedout335i's more modified 335i vs the same car. I also want to see the CLS63 vs E55 because I heard someone saying the CLS63 will beat my E55 . Stock vs Stock I believe my e55 will win but thats why we RACE !!!! To see which car is faster.....

According to the 335i driver in that video i talked to.
He is running a JB3 with intake, and no mufflers and no resonator, but all his cats in place. Either its running a lil slower, plugs/fuel pump might be weak, or that CLS63 is DAMN! fast.
It started pulling like a train past thew 335i at 100mph, since end of 3rd gear in 335i is 100mph, almost like the 335i hit a wall.

I am pretty sure the E55amg is faster than the 63 engines.
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DAMMMMMM that was a walk away...

CLS 63 FTMFW. hahaha

ok this is the way it goes down on a track as well except the BMW usually wins in the 1/4 mile , im fairly certain my CLS 63 would have caught and passed the JB3 modded 335's if the race continued. And yed he passed right where I felt my car was pulling on Terry who ran 11.89 to my 12.10. Around 100 mph I closed the gap, had the dam race continued i would have passed him at around 115,

Great Video!
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You AMG guys are in for a rude awakening, go race a properly running 335i J3 w/supporting mods, you'll be left wondering what happened in stk CLS55/63

They run 117-121 mph traps in the 11's
Assumptions just make people look stupid. I am not a AMG guy, I have built and owned pretty much every forced inducted performance car there is. If i really wanted to race some silly little 335 rolling comedy show. I would put together another Supra or EVO and blow his doors off like i have done in the past. The absolute furthest thing from my mind when driving my CLS is racing some anomous child on public roads in his little silly 335.
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Assumptions just make people look stupid. I am not a AMG guy, I have built and owned pretty much every forced inducted performance car there is. If i really wanted to race some silly little 335 rolling comedy show. I would put together another Supra or EVO and blow his doors off like i have done in the past. The absolute furthest thing from my mind when driving my CLS is racing some anomous child on public roads in his little silly 335.

Your maturity level just went up in my book with this post; (can you smell the sarcasm) especially with your outstanding spelling ability, writing ability and grammar.


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