Tires rubbing, Brabus C32
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Tires rubbing, Brabus C32
I put on Brabus Monoblock VI's wrapped with 235/40/18 and 265/35/18 PS2's. The suspension is Brabus springs and Koni adjustable shocks. Looks great, but the rear tires rub. They extensively cut and rolled the fenders already. What are my options?
Should I have a larger spring pad installed in the rear? How much work is it to do? Do they essentially have to re-install the springs?
Would removing or using a smaller spacer for the wheels in the rear fix the problem? Is it best to completely remove the spacer or use a different spacer? Size?
Here's a pic, more to come:
Should I have a larger spring pad installed in the rear? How much work is it to do? Do they essentially have to re-install the springs?
Would removing or using a smaller spacer for the wheels in the rear fix the problem? Is it best to completely remove the spacer or use a different spacer? Size?
Here's a pic, more to come:
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I had to use spacers in the front cuz of the brake clearance.. it's quite normal to have those..
Btw, I use 225/40/18 and 255/35/18 with Brabus Springs and dont have any issues at all. The 265's in the rear are too large for the car IMO..
Btw, I use 225/40/18 and 255/35/18 with Brabus Springs and dont have any issues at all. The 265's in the rear are too large for the car IMO..
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couple of things you can try:
1. smaller spacers if you have the room
2. more camber if it is close
3. raise the car a little and realign it. (spring spacer or different springs)
while I don't understand having to use spacers on such expensive wheels, they really aren't that big a deal. I've driven race cars that have used spacers. If your wheels are round, and your lugs are tight, you shouldn't get any vibrations.
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1. smaller spacers if you have the room
2. more camber if it is close
3. raise the car a little and realign it. (spring spacer or different springs)
while I don't understand having to use spacers on such expensive wheels, they really aren't that big a deal. I've driven race cars that have used spacers. If your wheels are round, and your lugs are tight, you shouldn't get any vibrations.
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Originally Posted by ziptie racing
couple of things you can try:
1. smaller spacers if you have the room
2. more camber if it is close
3. raise the car a little and realign it. (spring spacer or different springs)
while I don't understand having to use spacers on such expensive wheels, they really aren't that big a deal. I've driven race cars that have used spacers. If your wheels are round, and your lugs are tight, you shouldn't get any vibrations.
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1. smaller spacers if you have the room
2. more camber if it is close
3. raise the car a little and realign it. (spring spacer or different springs)
while I don't understand having to use spacers on such expensive wheels, they really aren't that big a deal. I've driven race cars that have used spacers. If your wheels are round, and your lugs are tight, you shouldn't get any vibrations.
Matt
2) camber is not adjustable in a W203 in the rear.
3) spring pads wont fix it for when the car compresses over a bump or in a corner it will still rub. its not smart to run around in a car that wont rub at normal speeds ona smooth street. hit a bump at 100 on the freeway and the last thing u need is a cut tire.
That size tire does fit on the car but it takes some work to stop the rubbing. I race a C32 with 265 r-comp tires (very thick and wide) and there is no rubbing under full compression.
Push the fender lip out a bit with a roller. You can add about 1/2 an inch or space by pressing the whole fender out. Also make sure the flange where the rear bumber and fender meet is fully ground down. There is a bolt at that flange that holds teh bumber and fender together and if need be you can take that bolt out and relocate it about 1-2 cm towards the rear of the car. These items should fit the issue.
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I did not know camber was unadjustable in the rear. obviously, my #2 and #3 won't work if that is the case. I was speaking in general as I just got my C32 last night. Sorry if I confused anyone.
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Have I run into you at streets of willow? I remember a silver C class AMG there a couple months ago that really moved. It took off after a half day. I spoke to the owner while they were packing up. My track car is a turbo miata.
Do you run 265's all the way around? I am thinking of not staggering my tire size front to rear to make the car a little looser, but I have no idea if it will fit. I know the popular sizes are 245f, 265r, but I am willing to try something different if it will fit...
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CynCarvin-
Have I run into you at streets of willow? I remember a silver C class AMG there a couple months ago that really moved. It took off after a half day. I spoke to the owner while they were packing up. My track car is a turbo miata.
Do you run 265's all the way around? I am thinking of not staggering my tire size front to rear to make the car a little looser, but I have no idea if it will fit. I know the popular sizes are 245f, 265r, but I am willing to try something different if it will fit...
Matt
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Just to clarify,
It seems like the least invasive thing would be to completely remove the spacers in the rear. Can someone please confirm that they've done so and there aren't any issues regarding rubbing on the inside? I've inspected the clearance over the calipers, there is plenty of room. I just want to make sure that if I remove the spacers, I won't rub on the inside fender or shock or anything else on the inside edge. If a smaller spacer is needed, what size would you recommend?
To bypass this, maybe next time I'll get 255 in the rear. It's what the wheel guy recommended anyway, but I had heard of so many people running 265 on this board that I thought it'd be ok...
It seems like the least invasive thing would be to completely remove the spacers in the rear. Can someone please confirm that they've done so and there aren't any issues regarding rubbing on the inside? I've inspected the clearance over the calipers, there is plenty of room. I just want to make sure that if I remove the spacers, I won't rub on the inside fender or shock or anything else on the inside edge. If a smaller spacer is needed, what size would you recommend?
To bypass this, maybe next time I'll get 255 in the rear. It's what the wheel guy recommended anyway, but I had heard of so many people running 265 on this board that I thought it'd be ok...
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I'm not sure about the offsets...perhaps someone more informed can chime in regarding the offsets for these wheels for this car?
The rim size is 8.5 x 18 and 9.5 x 18.
edit: I just called Brabus, the offset is 35 in the rear. the person I spoke to there recommended removing the rear spacer entirely, and using correspondingly shorter bolts. Opinions?
The rim size is 8.5 x 18 and 9.5 x 18.
edit: I just called Brabus, the offset is 35 in the rear. the person I spoke to there recommended removing the rear spacer entirely, and using correspondingly shorter bolts. Opinions?
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i run 265/35/19's in the rear, falken grbfk451, very low on h&r coilovers and no rub. i did have my fenders rolled but that's it as far as fender work. i think that it's your tire sidewall, as silvac32 said. i know that the falken grbfk451's work for no rub, but the performance is not as good as the ps2's. i am wondering what else will work, hopefully the new toyo t1-r's will work??
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Originally Posted by MadC32
I had to use spacers in the front cuz of the brake clearance.. it's quite normal to have those..
Btw, I use 225/40/18 and 255/35/18 with Brabus Springs and dont have any issues at all. The 265's in the rear are too large for the car IMO..
Btw, I use 225/40/18 and 255/35/18 with Brabus Springs and dont have any issues at all. The 265's in the rear are too large for the car IMO..
I use 265/30 19's toyo t1-s....
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I am assuming your wheels are authentic Brabus? Please check the part number of your REAR wheels, see if they are 612-958-35. If so, you should NOT need any hub-centric adaptor for the rear as the wheel itself already has an offset of ET35. Adding any adaptor will definitely cause a rubbing problem. It doesnt sound like the tires are the problem (although it is true that PS2 has a wider sidewall than most tires). Brabus recommended sizes are 225/40/18 and 255/35/18.
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Harris, Brabus did my wheels for me, they used spacers in the rear, also Brabus lugs and locks...unless I am having a total brain fart I am pretty sure we used spacers in the rear.
The guy needs to call Brabus..
The guy needs to call Brabus..
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Yes, the wheels are authentic. How do I check the part number? In your experience, do you have to use shorter bolts if you opt not to use the [optional?] 5mm spacer?
Vader:
See my post above...I just got off the phone with Brabus. Although I should have went with smaller tires, they say I can take out the spacer in the rear. He said that should solve the problem, and it won't rub on the inside. The only caveat was regarding the bolts.
Vader:
See my post above...I just got off the phone with Brabus. Although I should have went with smaller tires, they say I can take out the spacer in the rear. He said that should solve the problem, and it won't rub on the inside. The only caveat was regarding the bolts.
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Originally Posted by Vader13
Harris, Brabus did my wheels for me, they used spacers in the rear, also Brabus lugs and locks...unless I am having a total brain fart I am pretty sure we used spacers in the rear.
The guy needs to call Brabus..
The guy needs to call Brabus..
hey sean, I dont think you have spacers in the rear. Remember at shoreline you were getting that knocking from the rear? The guy used the longer bolts from the front in the rear. I think your front has spacers?
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Originally Posted by psk145
hey sean, I dont think you have spacers in the rear. Remember at shoreline you were getting that knocking from the rear? The guy used the longer bolts from the front in the rear. I think your front has spacers?
I have different springs than renalut also...
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Originally Posted by Trekman
I'm buying some 19 inch brabus 6 would I have rubbing problem? and would I need spacers?
