C32 Looses To M3
07-17-2005, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by r3v1ls
I think the loss mainly has to do with the supercharger in the c32's. The NA V6 in the M3 is much more conistent. If it was a humid night it could've also affected the car. Or could it be possible that the service for the car possibly messed something up? I'd check how the intake filter is doing, the S/C's need to get nice airflow to really get the power.
07-17-2005, 10:46 PM
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EEek my bad 
. There's a 325i in the garage right now n i've always known it's an i6 haha, my point mainly was that it was a 6 cylinder car, wasn't thinking about the whole V or I :p
. There's a 325i in the garage right now n i've always known it's an i6 haha, my point mainly was that it was a 6 cylinder car, wasn't thinking about the whole V or I :p
07-25-2005, 09:04 AM
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ALPINA B12 5,7 Coupe #22/57
Originally Posted by Improviz
Wherein he did NOT say that mass is not a factor. It is. And the M5 has more mass.
, Impizz.... learn to read.
07-25-2005, 10:08 AM
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C55AMG W203; 330i E90
I saw his exhaust came out fire - why was that?
My C55 also could not chase a Evo7
I was at third gear, I thought I let this guy went in front of me and ket me be the one to chase after. But.......surprise he was fast and I almost could not catch up...and I saw his exhaust came out fire - why was that?
I was at third gear, I thought I let this guy went in front of me and ket me be the one to chase after. But.......surprise he was fast and I almost could not catch up...and I saw his exhaust came out fire - why was that?
07-25-2005, 11:28 AM
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ALPINA B12 5,7 Coupe #22/57
Originally Posted by cntlaw
My C55 also could not chase a Evo7
I was at third gear, I thought I let this guy went in front of me and ket me be the one to chase after. But.......surprise he was fast and I almost could not catch up...and I saw his exhaust came out fire - why was that?
I was at third gear, I thought I let this guy went in front of me and ket me be the one to chase after. But.......surprise he was fast and I almost could not catch up...and I saw his exhaust came out fire - why was that?
The Evo cars are very fast and actually 1 of very few jap cars I could ever consider as a car for my selves. The flames out of the exhoust is not unusual for a Turbo cars, it could indicate that he had done some modification on the engine/exhoust system but no neceserilly.
The Evo is capable of scaring you of the line, and until app 60-70 mph if launced correctly, but then the C55 is the faster car, IF the Evo is stock. Its a very tunerfriendly car and just some small modification would make it a very fast car. I would guess he has some small modification done since you did not close in on him....
Most of the Evo running in my part of the world is lightly or heavily modified.
Take a look here to get an ideal on the difference in power EVO VII vs C55
http://www.track-challenge.com/compa...ar1=75&Car2=55
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07-25-2005, 01:40 PM
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C32 AMG 2002, C 63 AMG 2009
Originally Posted by BenzoAMGpower
that ECU upgrade is probably making your car run too rich!!! If anything, try leaving your car in a preselected gear next time you run from a roll!!! I mean it could be that the Euro M3 is faster but the 2 cars should be dead even. Sux to loose but u cant win them all. Im glad to say ive NEVER lost to any M3 before!!
07-25-2005, 03:14 PM
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Autocar tested off the line acceleration against the M5 giving superiority to the C32.
"With 260kW and an impressive 450Nm, it easily makes up in outright muscle what it loses in capacity and cylinder count. That stupendous 0-100kmh time leaves it just 0.7s behind a certain Ferrari and comfortably ahead of BMW's M5 (5.5s) and Subaru's WRX STi (5.8s). Porsche's $100,000-dearer 911 Carrera is but 0.1s faster."
C32 review
"With 260kW and an impressive 450Nm, it easily makes up in outright muscle what it loses in capacity and cylinder count. That stupendous 0-100kmh time leaves it just 0.7s behind a certain Ferrari and comfortably ahead of BMW's M5 (5.5s) and Subaru's WRX STi (5.8s). Porsche's $100,000-dearer 911 Carrera is but 0.1s faster."
C32 review
08-07-2005, 10:18 AM
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Silver 2002 C32, Silver 2006 CLK 350
Originally Posted by andy_cyp
Rematch With Video Coming Soon,stay Tuned!!
We will be having a gtg very shortly, and this time it will be closer as i have been using 98 RON "same as the M3" fuel for a week or so now and my 32 feels a lot pokier.
stay tuned for the video
We will be having a gtg very shortly, and this time it will be closer as i have been using 98 RON "same as the M3" fuel for a week or so now and my 32 feels a lot pokier.
stay tuned for the video
So when are you guys gonna run again? remember need video pls.
08-07-2005, 02:18 PM
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Obsidian E55
Originally Posted by Trekman
So when are you guys gonna run again? remember need video pls.
Stay tuned
08-07-2005, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by andy_cyp
Have both booked a track day at silverstone. We will be both running several sprints together 0...60's 0...100's. This will take place in a few weeks time, and all will be caught on my digi cam.
Stay tuned
Stay tuned
08-07-2005, 05:37 PM
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Obsidian E55
Me and the M3 guy are very good Friends, and as for an excuse of him being a lousy driver then think again as this guy knows exactly what hes doing.
If the M3 is quicker or vice versa this topic will end there and then, and all respect given appropriatly.
Weather hopefully will be good/sunny.
Roll on 4th septemember ........ www.traxshows.co.uk
If the M3 is quicker or vice versa this topic will end there and then, and all respect given appropriatly.
Weather hopefully will be good/sunny.
Roll on 4th septemember ........ www.traxshows.co.uk
08-07-2005, 08:35 PM
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why not (from a standing start race) turn the traction control off, and practice modulating wheelspin off the line? once you can do that without much (if any) wheelspin at all, you'd get a good launch. i'm sure you can't powerbrake it and build revs because you'll probably blow away the tires, but see at what rpm you can get to before this happens. once you find the happy meduim, you should be good with the launches.....rolling starts would be another thing.
08-08-2005, 12:25 AM
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45acp is right: it is ALL in the launch (*and* let the tranny shift)!
The trick is getting the right balance of spin: too much and you lose time sitting there with your tires going up in smoke; too little and you'll bog, which will also kill your time. Perfect launch is with a bit of light-to-medium spin, maybe for the first ten feet or so, no more than that. You want to slingshot it out of the hole as fast as possible, while keeping spin to acceptable levels.
Best launch will be with traction control OFF. Practice beforehand to get your "optimal' launch RPM: left foot on gas, right on brake (using US pedal placement here! ), and practice launching with varying RPMs until you get optimum hookup.
What you want to do is raise RPMs as high as you can without getting the evil spin. This can be as little as 800 RPM to as high as 2000+, depending upon tires, surface, temp, etc...then, when the "go" light comes, you can either simultaneously release the brake and dump the throttle, OR if that gets you too much spin (it will in the 5.5L V8s, not sure about the 3.2L SC), try this: instead of mashing the throttle at the start, keep revs steady, yank foot off of brake, wait a split second for the front end to lift to get a bit of weight transfer to the rear to help traction, and then rapidly squeeze throttle to floor (again, at this point depending upon vehicle, you might even be able to stomp it; key is to experiment!). In higher temps, you'll be able to use higher RPMs...
If you have a GTECH or something similar, or can borrow one, it helps to compare different launch techniques and see which one nets you the best 0-60 times. My fastest times are always obtained with the above technique. Just stomping it off the line isn't going to cut it with these cars.
As far as shifting goes: let the tranny do the work. I and several others have noted that the tranny seems to give noticeably slower upshifts with manual shifting under WOT conditions than leaving it in auto mode.
Best launch will be with traction control OFF. Practice beforehand to get your "optimal' launch RPM: left foot on gas, right on brake (using US pedal placement here!
), and practice launching with varying RPMs until you get optimum hookup.What you want to do is raise RPMs as high as you can without getting the evil spin. This can be as little as 800 RPM to as high as 2000+, depending upon tires, surface, temp, etc...then, when the "go" light comes, you can either simultaneously release the brake and dump the throttle, OR if that gets you too much spin (it will in the 5.5L V8s, not sure about the 3.2L SC), try this: instead of mashing the throttle at the start, keep revs steady, yank foot off of brake, wait a split second for the front end to lift to get a bit of weight transfer to the rear to help traction, and then rapidly squeeze throttle to floor (again, at this point depending upon vehicle, you might even be able to stomp it; key is to experiment!). In higher temps, you'll be able to use higher RPMs...
If you have a GTECH or something similar, or can borrow one, it helps to compare different launch techniques and see which one nets you the best 0-60 times. My fastest times are always obtained with the above technique. Just stomping it off the line isn't going to cut it with these cars.
As far as shifting goes: let the tranny do the work. I and several others have noted that the tranny seems to give noticeably slower upshifts with manual shifting under WOT conditions than leaving it in auto mode.
Last edited by Improviz; 08-08-2005 at 11:04 AM.
