Actually, it includes MKB camshafts.

 

I meant Evosport never spoke of headers and cams.

 

Hey!
I have been in contact with people of MKB Germany too, due that I intend to buy Headers and High performance catalytic converters for my C43.
Originally, I have spoken Helmut Reber (Finance, Marketing & Sales), and actually I spoke with him this morning.
I called him to price just the Headers and High performance catalytic converters for my new 2003 C32 that will be here in 2 weeks. He offer me the completely kit for 11.426,00 EURO, the same that Accord posted. I insisted for just the price of the parts that I wanted and he said 5,544.80 EURO, the same price of C43 or E55 V8 ones . Additionally, he claimed more that 20 hp in the top.
Well folks, I do believe that the Headers and High performance catalytic converters are expensive. I was really clear with Helmut mentioning that for me is difficult to understand why Headers and High performance catalytic for a V8 cost the same than for a V6? .... he promises me to replay an email with a better price, and I hope is more reasonable; I’ll post it.


Further, I spoke with people from H&S Elektronik Fahrzeugtechnik GmbH, Thomas Scholz to start the deal of Tuningchip my 2003 C32:

http://www.hs-elektronik.com/datenbl...s-c32-amg.html

(They claim 26hp more and 35 Nm, but the addition in the web side is not right, it must to be total 380hp and 485Nm [as Thomas confirmed me ], and the price here in USA is 1,281 Euros)
I have a really good impression of this company because I Tuningchiped my C43 with them. In one sentence, is just a wonderful job with my C43 ECU, the car is much quicker and faster than was stock:

I had hited C43 stock 158 aprox at 5,700 RPMs and now with H&S+K&N panel Filters 170 aprox at 6,100 RPMs

Here are some stats that I did before and after. Now the C43 is much more faster over 70 mph and so on as you see, and I believe that is 8 seconds faster to hit 158 than before:

Time to Speed stock / H&S+K&N panel Filters
0-30 mph.... 2.1 / 1.9
0-40 mph.... 3.2 / 3.0
0-50 mph.... 4.5 / 4.1
0-60 mph.... 5.8 / 5.3
0-70 mph.... 7.9 / 7.2
0-80 mph.... 9.9 / 9.1
0-90 mph.... 12.2 / 11.1
0-100 mph.... 14.8 / 13.3

Time to Distance
0-100 ft..... 3.0 / 2.9
0-500 ft..... 7.9 / 7.7
0-1320ft..... 14.5 / 14.0
@ mph .... 98.8 / 102.1

This is my story, the same that I'm planing for my new C32, the H&S Elektronik Tuningsoftware, and perhaps the MKB Headers and High performance catalytic converters.

Bye

 

i can't understand german. can someone tell me about this company and how they chip your car? do they send you a chip or do u send your ecu to them or do they send you a new ecu w/ their chip on it?

 

Well this is in english:

http://www.hs-elektronik.com/datenbl...s-c32-amg.html

I removed really carefully the ECU from my car (I can help you in the procedure), no more that 5 minutes. I sent it to Germany (FedEx 2 days, $68.99), putting in the customs report detail: “Automotive defective part”. Moreover, I sent an international check in Euros for the total amount. The operation was between 5-6 days and you may install for yourself.

If you review the numbers:
H&S Elektronik Tuningsoftware gives to the C32 US Specs (349 bhp, 338 Lbs.-Ft or 450 Nm) = 375 hp and 364 Lbs.-Ft or 485 Nm, for so far 1,281 Euros (ECU here).

RENNTech (SOFTWARE Upgrade + Crankshaft Pulley Kit) gives to the C32 US Specs (349 bhp, 338 Lbs.-Ft or 450 Nm) = 394 hp and 361 Lbs.-Ft or 480 Nm, for so far $ 3990+ shipping and handling.

That I'm trying to show is that H&S Elektronik Tuningsoftware V/S RENNTech (SOFTWARE Upgrade + Crankshaft Pulley Kit) gives less horse power (19hp) but better torque (5Nm) for $2,800 less , it may to be considered.

Bye

 

Just got another reply from MKB, and wow.

 

I called the two dealers in my area, and neither of them will do it!!!!!!!!!!

 

I just emailed him back asking about warantee issues, what would become void, etc. I also told him that North American dealers won't do the install (Even though that's probably not true, just majority who don't have the experience or those who don't want the liability, I suppose).

 

Pierre32
Share my story of H&S chips tuning half year ago.
My car dealer is also contract with them and able to telnet
source codes and rewrite to a modified ECU chips locally.
As soon as I read their ADs on the web, I asked the dealer to
arrange "everything" and paid in advance.
I just want my C32 more power at that time (Jan 2002)
H&S received the money and replied
"THEY'RE NOT READY for C32,though they posted ADs"
I got my money back from the dealer and forget H&S.

Hope this time they're ready for C32 chip tunning.......

 

I spoke two nights a go with Thomas H&S, and they're ready for C32 chip tunning!!
My car will be here 1.5 weeks from today, and first week of September I will chip tunning.

bye

 

What's the cost of the H&S chip tuning?

 

They charge 1400 Euro (=1400 $ nowadays)
Too much for too little ! You probably wont even feel the upgrade.
Be honest, if you can afford a C32 you can get a 'real' tuning of 400 hp or more !

H&S link
H&S

 

H&S Elektronik Fahrzeugtechnik GmbH.

They claim 26hp more and 35 Nm, but the addition in the web side is not right, it must to be total 380hp and 485Nm, and the price here in USA is 1,281 Euros. The price in the web side is with taxes or VAT in this case.

http://www.hs-elektronik.com/datenb...es-c32-amg.html

I removed really carefully the ECU from my car (I can help you in the procedure), no more that 5 minutes. I sent it to Germany (FedEx 2 days, $68.99), putting in the customs report detail: “Automotive defective part”. Moreover, I sent an international check in Euros for the total amount. The operation was between 5-6 days and you may install for yourself.

If you review the numbers:
H&S Elektronik Tuningsoftware gives to the C32 US Specs (349 bhp, 338 Lbs.-Ft or 450 Nm) = 375 hp and 364 Lbs.-Ft or 485 Nm, for so far 1,281 Euros (ECU here).

RENNTech (SOFTWARE Upgrade + Crankshaft Pulley Kit) gives to the C32 US Specs (349 bhp, 338 Lbs.-Ft or 450 Nm) = 394 hp and 361 Lbs.-Ft or 480 Nm, for so far $ 3990+ shipping and handling.

That I'm trying to show is that H&S Elektronik Tuningsoftware V/S RENNTech (SOFTWARE Upgrade + Crankshaft Pulley Kit) gives less horse power (19hp) but better torque (5Nm) for $2,800 less , it may to be considered.

Bye

 

If you review the numbers:
H&S Elektronik Tuningsoftware gives to the C32 US Specs (349 bhp, 338 Lbs.-Ft or 450 Nm) = 375 hp and 364 Lbs.-Ft or 485 Nm, for so far 1,281 Euros (ECU here).

RENNTech (SOFTWARE Upgrade + Crankshaft Pulley Kit) gives to the C32 US Specs (349 bhp, 338 Lbs.-Ft or 450 Nm) = 394 hp and 361 Lbs.-Ft or 480 Nm, for so far $ 3990+ shipping and handling.

That I'm trying to show is that H&S Elektronik Tuningsoftware V/S RENNTech (SOFTWARE Upgrade + Crankshaft Pulley Kit) gives less horse power (19hp) but better torque (5Nm) for $2,800 less , it may to be considered.

Bye

 

I know that MKB is very reliable, they always give you the least hard ware but the most aggresive software.

 

Ok seriously whats with all the thread revivals?

 

Maaaan... this thread is 6 years old!

 

search button...ftl?

 

Ok link didn't work so my question is is the 426hp at the crank or the wheel?

Also if at the crank wouldn't the Code3 or LET products do the same or better for about half oe less?
If at the wheel wouldn't LETs Twin Turbo or 185mm pulley with all tested products and installed fair about the same or better for less?

 

+1

Why revive something that over expensive and can be had for less alot less....I wish now I would have read the whole thread instead of the first only.

 

i got pricing from them way back....o boy if it was bad then forget it now with the exchange rates!

 

there's a company over here that are still an agent for MKB,

I rang them last year to find out what was available and was pretty interested, but when they told me the cost I nearly choked

needless to say I gave it a miss

c32used ....that is 426hp at the crank btw

 

Interesting is that MKB only uses a slightly smaller SC-Pulley (about 2mm) and no bigger CP. They are making power with ECU and Cams... If the 426Hp at the crank are realistic, I don't know...

The package is way to expensive in my opinion...