1FASTC32's Cheep Intercooler Pump Replacement
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Thanks again c32amgfl, I got my IC pump installed last night !!!
One question for the ppl who has done this install already. There are 2 wires, one in RED and the other in Brown, I connect the *brown* wire to the IC pumps positive side, and the RED on the negative side, is this right ?
I drove the car it drives strong.... but in case i did it wrong any advice would be great ! * my Ford lighting bump came with 2 * white wires... so i'm kind of loss...
Any help or comments would be grt.
One question for the ppl who has done this install already. There are 2 wires, one in RED and the other in Brown, I connect the *brown* wire to the IC pumps positive side, and the RED on the negative side, is this right ?
I drove the car it drives strong.... but in case i did it wrong any advice would be great ! * my Ford lighting bump came with 2 * white wires... so i'm kind of loss... Any help or comments would be grt.
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Thanks again c32amgfl, I got my IC pump installed last night !!!
One question for the ppl who has done this install already. There are 2 wires, one in RED and the other in Brown, I connect the *brown* wire to the IC pumps positive side, and the RED on the negative side, is this right ? I drove the car it drives strong.... but in case i did it wrong any advice would be great ! * my Ford lighting bump came with 2 * white wires... so i'm kind of loss... Any help or comments would be grt.
One question for the ppl who has done this install already. There are 2 wires, one in RED and the other in Brown, I connect the *brown* wire to the IC pumps positive side, and the RED on the negative side, is this right ?
I drove the car it drives strong.... but in case i did it wrong any advice would be great ! * my Ford lighting bump came with 2 * white wires... so i'm kind of loss... Any help or comments would be grt.
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Thanks again c32amgfl, I got my IC pump installed last night !!!
One question for the ppl who has done this install already. There are 2 wires, one in RED and the other in Brown, I connect the *brown* wire to the IC pumps positive side, and the RED on the negative side, is this right ? I drove the car it drives strong.... but in case i did it wrong any advice would be great ! * my Ford lighting bump came with 2 * white wires... so i'm kind of loss... Any help or comments would be grt.
One question for the ppl who has done this install already. There are 2 wires, one in RED and the other in Brown, I connect the *brown* wire to the IC pumps positive side, and the RED on the negative side, is this right ?
I drove the car it drives strong.... but in case i did it wrong any advice would be great ! * my Ford lighting bump came with 2 * white wires... so i'm kind of loss... Any help or comments would be grt.The old and new pump, if you are looking at the connector part
the left should be negative and the right side is the positive.
And if still in doubt, unhook the hose that has a arrow towards
it, start the car and you'll see coolant flushing out through
there.
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Thank you
Thank you guys - SO much 
stupid me, i threw away my pump in the garbage right when i got the top swaped* only thing now is i dont hear the pump noise at all. Is there a way to test it ? other then take the hose off again, to see if its pumpin liquid?
stupid me, i threw away my pump in the garbage right when i got the top swaped* only thing now is i dont hear the pump noise at all. Is there a way to test it ? other then take the hose off again, to see if its pumpin liquid?
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You should be able to hear it running.
On a side note, I picked up the ford motorsport connector. Hopefully this weekend I can clean up the ghetto install
On a side note, I picked up the ford motorsport connector. Hopefully this weekend I can clean up the ghetto install
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2002 C32 AMG, 1997 C5 Corvette (sold)
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Ford Motorsport part number is #WPT717
You can buy it from a Ford dealer. I ordered it in the morning and got it the same day. $19. Comes with a plug that clips right in to the pump with two 8" wires coming out of it. Includes some heatable shrink wrap to seal the connection. It will be a much cleaner and more reliable connection.
You can buy it from a Ford dealer. I ordered it in the morning and got it the same day. $19. Comes with a plug that clips right in to the pump with two 8" wires coming out of it. Includes some heatable shrink wrap to seal the connection. It will be a much cleaner and more reliable connection.
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Ford Motorsport part number is #WPT717
You can buy it from a Ford dealer. I ordered it in the morning and got it the same day. $19. Comes with a plug that clips right in to the pump with two 8" wires coming out of it. Includes some heatable shrink wrap to seal the connection. It will be a much cleaner and more reliable connection.
You can buy it from a Ford dealer. I ordered it in the morning and got it the same day. $19. Comes with a plug that clips right in to the pump with two 8" wires coming out of it. Includes some heatable shrink wrap to seal the connection. It will be a much cleaner and more reliable connection.
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You will be fine. The SC is protected by shutting down after IA temps reach a certain temp (02-250, 03/04-190). The car will just be sluggish if the SC is not engaging. It will not hurt anything though.
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IC pump went out after recall/Relay replacement Jan. 23,07
Just posted this elsewhere; here it's more fitting:
Jan. 23rd, 07 recall relay replacement was done; since then I have noticed, that sometimes the Supercharger "stuttered" at high RPM (feels like ignition is cutting out). Did not pay too much attention at first. But I just read the posts, describing the IC pump issue. Couldn't hear the pump spinning after turning off the car - started to be concerned.
Ordered the Ford (Bosch) replacement IC pump ($89 + shipping as per above tel. #) and bought the Ford fitting connector "prewired" ($41); special order from the local Ford Dealer (overnight delivery) to make the installation look best and prevent future wire-mixup/reversed voltage (DC) later on.
Now, after I completed the installation, I am reading about the possible Recall having caused the IC pump problem in the first place.... Do I smell a rat?
Anyone here, who had to install the pump again... and again... and again? My assumption is, that if the Relay is the culprit - shouldn't the IC pump fail again? Did anyone read the circuit drawings - please confirm, that the pump is on the same leg; i.e. fused separately? It seems to have some "brains/thermostat-switch" which keeps the IC pump spinning after the engine was turned off. I did not get any error message, when I removed the IC pump power cable... Very POOR DESIGN, having to "listen" to the pump, to confirm it's spinning!!! What a blunder!! AMG, are you listening?
New pump test drive = great performance; for how long?? (in miles please). thanks.
Jan. 23rd, 07 recall relay replacement was done; since then I have noticed, that sometimes the Supercharger "stuttered" at high RPM (feels like ignition is cutting out). Did not pay too much attention at first. But I just read the posts, describing the IC pump issue. Couldn't hear the pump spinning after turning off the car - started to be concerned.
Ordered the Ford (Bosch) replacement IC pump ($89 + shipping as per above tel. #) and bought the Ford fitting connector "prewired" ($41); special order from the local Ford Dealer (overnight delivery) to make the installation look best and prevent future wire-mixup/reversed voltage (DC) later on.
Now, after I completed the installation, I am reading about the possible Recall having caused the IC pump problem in the first place.... Do I smell a rat?
Anyone here, who had to install the pump again... and again... and again? My assumption is, that if the Relay is the culprit - shouldn't the IC pump fail again? Did anyone read the circuit drawings - please confirm, that the pump is on the same leg; i.e. fused separately? It seems to have some "brains/thermostat-switch" which keeps the IC pump spinning after the engine was turned off. I did not get any error message, when I removed the IC pump power cable... Very POOR DESIGN, having to "listen" to the pump, to confirm it's spinning!!! What a blunder!! AMG, are you listening?
New pump test drive = great performance; for how long?? (in miles please). thanks.
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I'm not sure where the 03/04 shut down at 190F info came from. When I was having trouble with IATs I was monitoring them. I was around 215 and the supercharger would not shut down. I'm not sure where the cut off was, but it was higher than 190. This is on an 04.
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Qs, I just installed my New ic pump and connector, everything worked out and till my engine temp went up today, I notice if i'm on freeway cruising around 60mph plus my temp stays with in 80-87ish ? but if i'm in a dead stop city traffic, my temp went up as high as 95-98. Is this normal ? my SC is on and it feels strong, but i just cant figure out the TEMP ISSUE could there be AIR POCKETS during my install? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
could there be AIR POCKETS during my install? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Qs, I just installed my New ic pump and connector, everything worked out and till my engine temp went up today, I notice if i'm on freeway cruising around 60mph plus my temp stays with in 80-87ish ? but if i'm in a dead stop city traffic, my temp went up as high as 95-98. Is this normal ? my SC is on and it feels strong, but i just cant figure out the TEMP ISSUE could there be AIR POCKETS during my install? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
could there be AIR POCKETS during my install? Any help would be greatly appreciated.it is normal, your coolant temp is unrelated to your I/C pump working...
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Sorry, Erick! I meant to do this sooner.
http://www.renntechc32.com/IC_Pump/
I put together a quick site to help in finding the needed parts for the IC pump replacement.
If someone can send me a link to the adapters needed for the Johnson Pump, I will put that up too.
http://www.renntechc32.com/IC_Pump/
I put together a quick site to help in finding the needed parts for the IC pump replacement.
If someone can send me a link to the adapters needed for the Johnson Pump, I will put that up too.
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MB became more cautious with the tune on the later cars and 225 is FAR to high for any sort of power to be made.
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Those cut off temps are confirmed by MB literature and many mb tuners.
The 55k cars also shut down at 199 degrees as well.
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Actually on 2002s it is 255F shutdown and 200F to turn back on. On later and with software update it is 200F shutdown and 170F to turn back on.
Either way get the pump fixed or unplug the clutch. High Intake Air Charge temps are bad for the engine.
Either way get the pump fixed or unplug the clutch. High Intake Air Charge temps are bad for the engine.
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That may be something that Kleemann changed in their software. Is your car running a upgraded software map? I know RENNtech does not raise the cut off point but your car seems to be running a different version of software.
Those cut off temps are confirmed by MB literature and many mb tuners.
The 55k cars also shut down at 199 degrees as well.
Those cut off temps are confirmed by MB literature and many mb tuners.
The 55k cars also shut down at 199 degrees as well.
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you are right... typo on my part! 2 and 5 in a series. looked right at least
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C32amg_fl Big Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MY IC pump failed again after my RECALL the Sec time with the same dealer!!!!?!!?!?? But thanks to C32AMG_FL i'm getting a new one !!! BIG THANKS TO MR *C32AMG_FL. * He is by far the most honest guy i spoke with on the phone !!! he works at FL FORD as * manager * Sold me the IC pump/pigtail plug at a Great price, there is a thread made just under 1fastc32 DIY IC PUMP replacement. Since i told him about what happen to my IC pump, i was going to offer and buy a brand new IC pump again. He suggested not to buy another one and offer to give me a new one under warranty !!!. NOW THAT IS GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE-HONEST BUSINESS , I'm waiting for my new ic pump, ones i get it i'll send back the OLD pump. If it was not for C32AMG_FL i would lost some more money in addition to this AIR PUMP job Benz dealer charged me. * BIG THANKS TO C32AMG_FL .
Last edited by Eurowow; Aug 9, 2007 at 05:27 PM.
