Kleemann Upgrade
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Originally Posted by Catapult
I am more concerned about 1/4 mile time and speed. Terminal speed and car weight will give you a very good idea of what the horsepoweis being generated.
It was pulling 510hp on the Kleemann dyno with the stock ECU and zero adaption time for the upgrades.
It was pulling 510hp on the Kleemann dyno with the stock ECU and zero adaption time for the upgrades.
Regardless, very nice.
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2005 SL55 K2, 2006 CLS55
Originally Posted by Catapult
Hi Don,
the stage 3 kit is APRs. The exhaust headers, downpipes and cat back exhaust are all from Autospeed Performance and the intercoolers are from Awe tuning. I likes the APR kit because it has four programs selectable with the cruise control button. It has stock, 93 octane, 100 octane and valet.
the stage 3 kit is APRs. The exhaust headers, downpipes and cat back exhaust are all from Autospeed Performance and the intercoolers are from Awe tuning. I likes the APR kit because it has four programs selectable with the cruise control button. It has stock, 93 octane, 100 octane and valet.
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'03 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by RI55
I did the AWE/GIAC stage III to my 2000 S4, and love it! She just turned 100K miles, and going strong! The torque is great. Now I'm thinking Kleemann for the C55, so it can keep up, LOL! Good luck with the install!
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The s/c looks great Catapult!
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Originally Posted by newton22
Estimated 510 bhp right? Not rwhp?
Regardless, very nice.
Regardless, very nice.
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Originally Posted by RI55
I did the AWE/GIAC stage III to my 2000 S4, and love it! She just turned 100K miles, and going strong! The torque is great. Now I'm thinking Kleemann for the C55, so it can keep up, LOL! Good luck with the install!
And Great Taste! (are we related?)
And Great Taste! (are we related?)
I was really happy with the C55 stock. It was a tough decision to upgrade. I didn't want to mess up a car I really liked. I did that once with a set of springs and shocks on an Audi A4 and it made the car ride like a brick. I can say now the car is better then ever and I have no regrets.
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'03 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by Catapult
There is a definite difference between the two cars. The C55 pulls hard right from the start with a bump up right at 3k up to red line. The S4, as it is now, basically a stage 1 has that wonderful turbo rush when all hell breaks loose. I guess the lag is the calm before the storm so to speak but it is so much fun when they come on boost. In traffic in the S4 if you are in the wrong gear you can get caught out but never in the C55.
I was really happy with the C55 stock. It was a tough decision to upgrade. I didn't want to mess up a car I really liked. I did that once with a set of springs and shocks on an Audi A4 and it made the car ride like a brick. I can say now the car is better then ever and I have no regrets.
I was really happy with the C55 stock. It was a tough decision to upgrade. I didn't want to mess up a car I really liked. I did that once with a set of springs and shocks on an Audi A4 and it made the car ride like a brick. I can say now the car is better then ever and I have no regrets.
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Originally Posted by jeremy@matrix
Just wait until you've driven on the stg3 mods....it's addicting. ![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Let me know if we can help with anything.
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Let me know if we can help with anything.
I visited your site and you have all the best vendors. I will definitely keep you in mind if I need something.
The B5 S4 has such charm and is so tuneable. I wish Audi didn't go to V8s. They're nose heavy as it is.
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2005 SL55 K2, 2006 CLS55
Originally Posted by jeremy@matrix
Seems like quite a few S4 (B5 and B6) owners on here as well.
The s/c looks great Catapult!
The s/c looks great Catapult!
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'03 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by trips
Hey Jeremy,
LOL. Went from modded c32 to b7 S4
Just lurk around here every now and then.
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LOL. Went from modded c32 to b7 S4
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'03 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by RI55
Nice site Jeremy! Too bad I'm on the east coast![Frown](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
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#38
Originally Posted by JamE55
Congratulations! So the kompressor and headers are the only upgrade you did? No ecu, lsd or cam upgrades? You should've at least gotten the lsd and ecu. It would only help with traction issues. But nonetheless congrats.
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Originally Posted by Catapult
I talked to Cory at Kleemann today about the ECU. Apparently Mercedes moved the locations of some of the maps on the newer cars. They think they have it figured out now and may have a new ECU download on Monday.
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Originally Posted by JamE55
That's great. Pls keep us posted and maybe post a dyno sheet.
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Originally Posted by trips
Hey Jeremy,
LOL. Went from modded c32 to b7 S4
Just lurk around here every now and then.
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LOL. Went from modded c32 to b7 S4
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What do you think of your new S4? I like mine but find bumps send my head towards the headliner which is really disconcerting when pushing on. The image of the car is second to none.
BTW, I also had a C32 (stock) but in between had a used 996TT which was the best car i've ever owned but a little flashy for my taste.
Before buying the S4, did you consider the 03 RS6? I did but decided against it. A decision I now regret. Don't get me wrong, I love my car. That being said, I can't wait for the predicted 550bhp RS6 to come out 2007/8
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Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter
That being said, I can't wait for the predicted 550bhp RS6 to come out 2007/8
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Don't have a Mercedes right now...
Some people don't buy more powerfull cars just because they are afraid to get spanked by another car in the street! I believe that most people do it becuase they enjoy the power and in the case of RS6 you could enjoy dring such a powerfull car with a manual trany.
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ECU upgrade
Kleemann worked out the program changes for my car last week and I had them reprogram the ECU. I put it in on Saturday and I have to say the throttle is much more responsive and the car definitely feels faster.
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Originally Posted by Catapult
Kleemann worked out the program changes for my car last week and I had them reprogram the ECU. I put it in on Saturday and I have to say the throttle is much more responsive and the car definitely feels faster.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
I've been trying to get another blown C55 dyno for sometime. AMGdragon's Kleemann C55K S7 recorded a 450rwp dyno and BennyZ's Renntech C55 recorded a 400rwp dyno. My crummy HPS Gen II recorded a high of 386rwp only after extensive ECU programming and a smaller pulley but it did not have any headers, exhaust, cams or LSD. HPS claims that Kleeman's seldom make over 380rwp. I would love to prove them wrong because I was totally fooled by their 414rwp dyno chart of my car that they sent me until I dyno'd it myself.
Ted
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
........I completely agree with you. Good luck trying to get Dyno from another blown 55 engine to compare. I have been asking JAME55 to dyno his beautiful car, but no luck. I am way too curious, I don't know how one can get all this stuff done to their car and never dyno it. Also, I think DragonAMG's dyno had crank HP figures njot RWHP, so it is not as useful.
Ted
Ted