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New Lexus IS-F: competition for C-AMG, M3, S/RS4
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true but the same technology would cost alot more on the MB. its hard to compare cars that are dated 2-6 years apart. one thing thou automaker like infiniti,lexus and acura are doing more to their cars then MB AUDI OR BMW. these are upscale cars but the technology in them isn't quite at par with it JAP counterparts.
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True but the average joe would take the excellent gadgets over the other stuff most to alot of people just want something to brag about in their cars not just saying they have a MB AUDI or BMW. Lexus gives the people what they want also remember they race the IS so making it good from the start is a must for them...not the best at performance but good enough for the average joe. Alot of people want the flair of gadgets and big rims with alot of factory HP and they are satisfied.All cars get out dated eventually.
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The exterior is not quite as agressive as any current or upcoming AMGs will be. BUT, the interior, the electronics, fit and finish, cutomer service, and long term reliability will give Mercedes a run for their money.
I had an 06' IS 350 before switching over to a SLK55. The IS had a much better fit and finish; sounds/navigation system; and built quality (everything fit very nicely). Their Navigation is the most intutiave one I've ever seen. Plus, their service department is amazing (free foods/drinks, leather couch and flat panel TV, and Lexus loaners, and very attentive service team)
The IS just didn't have the styling or the engine that my SLK has (not to mention the roof). I did say that when ever Lexus makes car that looks and drives like AMGs, I would seriously consider them again. Hopefully, this will give company like Mercedes and BMW to step up and offer the quality that Lexus offers to its customers to go along with the nice performance and styling that we all love.
The perfect car would be one with engine and extriors like AMGs and an interior like that of a Lexus!
I had an 06' IS 350 before switching over to a SLK55. The IS had a much better fit and finish; sounds/navigation system; and built quality (everything fit very nicely). Their Navigation is the most intutiave one I've ever seen. Plus, their service department is amazing (free foods/drinks, leather couch and flat panel TV, and Lexus loaners, and very attentive service team)
The IS just didn't have the styling or the engine that my SLK has (not to mention the roof). I did say that when ever Lexus makes car that looks and drives like AMGs, I would seriously consider them again. Hopefully, this will give company like Mercedes and BMW to step up and offer the quality that Lexus offers to its customers to go along with the nice performance and styling that we all love.
The perfect car would be one with engine and extriors like AMGs and an interior like that of a Lexus!
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fit and finish, cutomer service
The interior has a nice design, but in my opinion, my old ML had better seats than our current GX470. Also, in my experience, our Lexus dealership has the same customer service, if not worse, as our Benz one. I mean the only problem I have with the Benz guys is that they are dumb and like to overcharge.
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Like it's been said before...I think this is a turn for the worse "visually"...The bulged hood makes it look like a 5 series hood and the front fender is a joke...Turned a good lookin car into something more like overkill...
Just my 2 cents...
Just my 2 cents...
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Um...I also enjoy plastic coverings and have my car come back with 15 more miles than when I dropped it off.
The interior has a nice design, but in my opinion, my old ML had better seats than our current GX470. Also, in my experience, our Lexus dealership has the same customer service, if not worse, as our Benz one. I mean the only problem I have with the Benz guys is that they are dumb and like to overcharge.
The interior has a nice design, but in my opinion, my old ML had better seats than our current GX470. Also, in my experience, our Lexus dealership has the same customer service, if not worse, as our Benz one. I mean the only problem I have with the Benz guys is that they are dumb and like to overcharge.
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True but the average joe would take the excellent gadgets over the other stuff most to alot of people just want something to brag about in their cars not just saying they have a MB AUDI or BMW. Lexus gives the people what they want also remember they race the IS so making it good from the start is a must for them...not the best at performance but good enough for the average joe. Alot of people want the flair of gadgets and big rims with alot of factory HP and they are satisfied.All cars get out dated eventually.
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Thats the 1st thing I noticed from my former 2007 to this 2002 but I like Lexus for the other luxury appointments then the Gadgets to. I like the overall package to. Remember I chose the C32 cause it has the overall package and its hard to compare technology that is that many years apart but it seems as though the new IS500 would have all I want. I am proud to own MB but I was proud to own Lexus to.
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Um...I also enjoy plastic coverings and have my car come back with 15 more miles than when I dropped it off.
The interior has a nice design, but in my opinion, my old ML had better seats than our current GX470. Also, in my experience, our Lexus dealership has the same customer service, if not worse, as our Benz one. I mean the only problem I have with the Benz guys is that they are dumb and like to overcharge.
The interior has a nice design, but in my opinion, my old ML had better seats than our current GX470. Also, in my experience, our Lexus dealership has the same customer service, if not worse, as our Benz one. I mean the only problem I have with the Benz guys is that they are dumb and like to overcharge.
I think that's why Lexus always wins JD Power's Customer Service Awards; and also consumer awards. The difference is quite noticeable.
Anyway, I just had to point out my... actually, anger, with Mercedes-Benz customer service.
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By the way, the new G35 has a hard drive (8GB), where you can dump all your music (or pictures, or videos) into the car and play it. Also, the car is not only has DVD Navigation but also a DVD player, to play DVD Movies.
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You must be talking about Ray Catena? They are definately not representative of Mercedes dealers, they are one of the top in the country and I read somewhere that they have the top rated service department. I wish all Mercedes dealers would act like them. I've never understood why everyone in the dealerships look at you like "how dare you step foot in our showroom!" I have never experienced this even at a Bentley dealership where I probably couldn't even afford one wheel!
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cmon guys.. all dealers have issues with good and bad service. To say one brand is worse than others is just silly.
There are 3 MB dealers in the San Diego area. I have only used 2 of them.
The closest one, MB of San Diego, sucks big time for customer service in the service department, but the parts guys are probably the coolest I have ever dealt with.
For service I use MB of Escondido. It is a much farther drive 20 mins at least, but their service department is second to none. I have never had better service with any other dealer. (BMW, Toyota, Nissan, Honda) They give free loaners,($10 for gas charge) have never questioned any warranty issue, and my SA is just a pleasure to work with. His name is Jeff for any San Diego locals..
There are 3 MB dealers in the San Diego area. I have only used 2 of them.
The closest one, MB of San Diego, sucks big time for customer service in the service department, but the parts guys are probably the coolest I have ever dealt with.
For service I use MB of Escondido. It is a much farther drive 20 mins at least, but their service department is second to none. I have never had better service with any other dealer. (BMW, Toyota, Nissan, Honda) They give free loaners,($10 for gas charge) have never questioned any warranty issue, and my SA is just a pleasure to work with. His name is Jeff for any San Diego locals..
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Yeah, I agree. Acura is already on Sat. Nav and touch screen; but I wouldn't say just Mercedes, but all German manufactures in general (BMW, Porsche, VW, Mercedes, Audi) are not very quick or trendy when adapting technology into cars.
By the way, the new G35 has a hard drive (8GB), where you can dump all your music (or pictures, or videos) into the car and play it. Also, the car is not only has DVD Navigation but also a DVD player, to play DVD Movies.
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By the way, the new G35 has a hard drive (8GB), where you can dump all your music (or pictures, or videos) into the car and play it. Also, the car is not only has DVD Navigation but also a DVD player, to play DVD Movies.
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That's why I switched from COMMAND to Pioneer AVIC-Z1. Bright large touch screen, traffic nav, 10gb hard drive, HUGE POI database, DVD player, TV tuner, XM radio, rear view cam, iPod integration, great bluetooth support, voice command, etc . . . and it behaves just like the factory unit, including steering wheel controls. The ONLY feature that I lost was navigation information on my cluster.
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Yes, it was Ray Cantena that had good service. They actually have excellent service for all their automobiles throughout.
amgmark - You'd be very surprised actually. Not all dealerships/manufactures can go above and beyond for each customer, however, there is a NOTICEABLE difference when I take my BMW in for service and my Mercedes. It's not silly to say one brand focuses more on customer service than others, in any/every industry you find that -- one who leads in customer service, usually one with a niche market because it's easier to cater to their needs/expectations. Lexus in Japan is ALL about customer service, because essentially they sell the same product as Toyota. They give you 5-Star Hotel customer service, and not just in Japan, but all around the World, I gave the example of the U.S. now go read: http://wikicars.org/en/Lexus - scroll down to "Service" and see more. It's a conscious attitude that Lexus has that makes their customer service good, it's part of their business strategy and it's part of who they are.
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amgmark - You'd be very surprised actually. Not all dealerships/manufactures can go above and beyond for each customer, however, there is a NOTICEABLE difference when I take my BMW in for service and my Mercedes. It's not silly to say one brand focuses more on customer service than others, in any/every industry you find that -- one who leads in customer service, usually one with a niche market because it's easier to cater to their needs/expectations. Lexus in Japan is ALL about customer service, because essentially they sell the same product as Toyota. They give you 5-Star Hotel customer service, and not just in Japan, but all around the World, I gave the example of the U.S. now go read: http://wikicars.org/en/Lexus - scroll down to "Service" and see more. It's a conscious attitude that Lexus has that makes their customer service good, it's part of their business strategy and it's part of who they are.
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cmon guys.. all dealers have issues with good and bad service. To say one brand is worse than others is just silly.
There are 3 MB dealers in the San Diego area. I have only used 2 of them.
The closest one, MB of San Diego, sucks big time for customer service in the service department, but the parts guys are probably the coolest I have ever dealt with.
For service I use MB of Escondido. It is a much farther drive 20 mins at least, but their service department is second to none. I have never had better service with any other dealer. (BMW, Toyota, Nissan, Honda) They give free loaners,($10 for gas charge) have never questioned any warranty issue, and my SA is just a pleasure to work with. His name is Jeff for any San Diego locals..
There are 3 MB dealers in the San Diego area. I have only used 2 of them.
The closest one, MB of San Diego, sucks big time for customer service in the service department, but the parts guys are probably the coolest I have ever dealt with.
For service I use MB of Escondido. It is a much farther drive 20 mins at least, but their service department is second to none. I have never had better service with any other dealer. (BMW, Toyota, Nissan, Honda) They give free loaners,($10 for gas charge) have never questioned any warranty issue, and my SA is just a pleasure to work with. His name is Jeff for any San Diego locals..
