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Old 01-30-2007, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Fifth Ring
You're correct that modifications may void a warranty. As to $1,000 in maintenance per year, that may be the long-term average if you are lucky. But would you be prepared to spend $3-4,000 on a supercharger? It is not likely to happen, but it might.
so the SC is the main problem? what if someone rigs something for it to go bad be4 the warranty is over...wouldnt i be set for a while then?

is it possible to buy a car from a private owner and get extended warranty juss to be safe?

the car i am looking at right now is blk on blk 35K miles 2003. i have to check if the warranty is up yet...but it might be close...can i just take this car to a MB dealer and tell them i would like to buy extended warranty on this car...?
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Originally Posted by RacerX0911
so the SC is the main problem? what if someone rigs something for it to go bad be4 the warranty is over...wouldnt i be set for a while then?

is it possible to buy a car from a private owner and get extended warranty juss to be safe?

the car i am looking at right now is blk on blk 35K miles 2003. i have to check if the warranty is up yet...but it might be close...can i just take this car to a MB dealer and tell them i would like to buy extended warranty on this car...?
No, the SC is not the "main" problem. I would steer clear of any "rigging" prior to your warranty expiring. They usually have a good sniffer and are always looking for reasons to deny a warranty issue anyway. So you "accidentally" break something just before your warranty only to have the claim denied and now you have something you broke that still needs repaired for however many thousands of $'s. Not wise.

Yes, it is possible to get an extended warranty for most any car, regardless of how or who you purchased from. For an AMG the extended warranty is much more than a standard vehicle, but it is also a MUST with this car. No matter the year make or model, any AMG you want to get that extra warranty.

A dealer (or MB) will sell you a warranty but they usually charge considerably more than if you were to do some searching on your own.

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Old 01-30-2007, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RacerX0911
so the SC is the main problem? what if someone rigs something for it to go bad be4 the warranty is over...wouldnt i be set for a while then?

No, not at all.

I'm just saying that before you jump into an AMG, be fully prepared for the possible repair costs. Like I said above, you can't consider a $20,000 C32 to be a similar purchase to a $20,000 Ford Taurus. When stuff breaks on the C32 it's going to cost a lot more to fix than on the Taurus. I'd hate to see someone get into one of these cars and then go broke trying to fix it. It was the same issue with my old Audi. It had a twin turbo engine and auto transmission, and if you lost a turbo or a transmission, it was a $6,000 repair bill. That's a lot for a $18,000 car! But if you visit those forums you're starting to see people buy the cars because they are cheap, and then find themselves in a bind when something breaks.

PS: And warranty fraud is not a good idea. What if a "guy" succeeds in breaking your supercharger while under warranty, but MB denies the claim - finds tampering. OOPS!
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Originally Posted by Fifth Ring
No, not at all.

I'm just saying that before you jump into an AMG, be fully prepared for the possible repair costs. Like I said above, you can't consider a $20,000 C32 to be a similar purchase to a $20,000 Ford Taurus. When stuff breaks on the C32 it's going to cost a lot more to fix than on the Taurus. I'd hate to see someone get into one of these cars and then go broke trying to fix it. It was the same issue with my old Audi. It had a twin turbo engine and auto transmission, and if you lost a turbo or a transmission, it was a $6,000 repair bill. That's a lot for a $18,000 car! But if you visit those forums you're starting to see people buy the cars because they are cheap, and then find themselves in a bind when something breaks.
true...it is a little hard for us because we have had Lexus' all our lived and when i bought a BMW and told my dad about the problems and cost for a single oil change he told me to pitch it....but i want a fast car that is moddable but dont want to worry too much about the problems...
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true...it is a little hard for us because we have had Lexus' all our lived and when i bought a BMW and told my dad about the problems and cost for a single oil change he told me to pitch it....but i want a fast car that is moddable but dont want to worry too much about the problems...

When you say "fast" do you want a car that accelerates quickly, or are you into handling as well?

If all you care about is acceleration, then there are good cars available that are less costly to maintain (Mustangs, GTOs). If you like a car that can handle well, you could also look at the Subaru WRX STi or the VW GTI. The VW 1.8t and 2.0t engines are VERY tunable VERY cheaply. I'm not trying to steer you away from the C32. You just need to know what you're getting into.
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Originally Posted by RacerX0911
....but i want a fast car that is moddable but dont want to worry too much about the problems...
moddable and no problems is a bit of an oxymoron.lol
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I'm very happy with how modable the C32 is. What I especially like is that I can beat on it all day and not worry about the engine or tranny. Just because the supercharger pump might die once or twice over the life of the car doesn't make it unreliable for a modded car in my book.
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Originally Posted by Fifth Ring
When you say "fast" do you want a car that accelerates quickly, or are you into handling as well?

If all you care about is acceleration, then there are good cars available that are less costly to maintain (Mustangs, GTOs). If you like a car that can handle well, you could also look at the Subaru WRX STi or the VW GTI. The VW 1.8t and 2.0t engines are VERY tunable VERY cheaply. I'm not trying to steer you away from the C32. You just need to know what you're getting into.
yeah tru...but i dont like domestic car... and a used WRX or sumthin that is AWD has probably the **** beat out of it...dropping clutches at high RPM's....no no
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Originally Posted by RacerX0911
yeah tru...but i dont like domestic car... and a used WRX or sumthin that is AWD has probably the **** beat out of it...dropping clutches at high RPM's....no no
about the warranty...i think i got that solved i found a place that is called American Mercury...they seem really reliable and just 2500 for full bumper to bumper coverage...good till 100K miles and they said i can mod the car...the parts just wont be covered...only the parts that are on the car from factory will ALL be covered...
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The VW 1.8t and 2.0t engines are VERY tunable VERY cheaply
Too bad the car is going to be in the shop more than it is going to be in your garage!
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Too bad the car is going to be in the shop more than it is going to be in your garage!
exactly my point!
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Originally Posted by RacerX0911
exactly my point!
Sounds like you've already made up your mind and you're dismissing anything that goes against it. Other than the ignition coils, the newer 1.8t and 2.0t engines are bulletproof. Our 3rd car is an Audi TT and it's got a 225HP 1.8t, and it's easily modified (under $1,000) to over 300HP. The 2.0t is sold in European Audis with over 265HP right out of the box.

Go ahead and get the C55. It seems like you're going to dismiss any advice to the contrary anyway; and in the process, you're advancing theories that devalue one of my major assets.

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Originally Posted by Fifth Ring
Sounds like you've already made up your mind and you're dismissing anything that goes against it. Other than the ignition coils, the newer 1.8t and 2.0t engines are bulletproof. Our 3rd car is an Audi TT and it's got a 225HP 1.8t, and it's easily modified (under $1,000) to over 300HP. The 2.0t is sold in European Audis with over 265HP right out of the box.

Go ahead and get the C55. It seems like you're going to dismiss any advice to the contrary anyway; and in the process, you're advancing theories that devalue one of my major assets.
Two of two people that I know with 2002 1.8t had the same problem. The water pump failed starting a chain reaction that destroyed the entire head. These were stock vehicles with less than 35k miles. It was NOT covered under warranty.
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Get the C55.

All things performance wise being equal, the C55 does have the updated look, which looks really good. Also, financially down the road it'll be cheaper to maintain. Lastly, you'll likely find the C55 is better condition (seats, floor mats, engine, etc.), and also warranty still intact (since it came in 05 - it runs minimum to 09, right?).

The problem with the C55 could be - if you don't mind driving bigger cars - you can probably swing a slightly older and higher mileage E55, which is tempting.


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Originally Posted by tee_tz
Get the C55.

All things performance wise being equal, the C55 does have the updated look, which looks really good. Also, financially down the road it'll be cheaper to maintain. Lastly, you'll likely find the C55 is better condition (seats, floor mats, engine, etc.), and also warranty still intact (since it came in 05 - it runs minimum to 09, right?).

The problem with the C55 could be - if you don't mind driving bigger cars - you can probably swing a slightly older and higher mileage E55, which is tempting.


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i looked into the E55's but i noticed how old the look was...i dont think the C class is all that bad...but C55 is out of the price range and this warranty company sounds really good...
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Originally Posted by Fifth Ring
Sounds like you've already made up your mind and you're dismissing anything that goes against it. Other than the ignition coils, the newer 1.8t and 2.0t engines are bulletproof. Our 3rd car is an Audi TT and it's got a 225HP 1.8t, and it's easily modified (under $1,000) to over 300HP. The 2.0t is sold in European Audis with over 265HP right out of the box.

Go ahead and get the C55. It seems like you're going to dismiss any advice to the contrary anyway; and in the process, you're advancing theories that devalue one of my major assets.
well my uncle is a car dealer and he says HELL NO to audi's...plus i dont like em...that totally cancels it out...BTW any turbo that are from the factory can increase HP for cheap money...
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Originally Posted by RacerX0911
about the warranty...i think i got that solved i found a place that is called American Mercury...they seem really reliable and just 2500 for full bumper to bumper coverage...good till 100K miles and they said i can mod the car...the parts just wont be covered...only the parts that are on the car from factory will ALL be covered...
I just checked mine and I guess I am through Mercury as well. $2,265, Platinum coverage, 48 mo, 85K miles coverage, zero deductable on a claim.
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guys please post a link to the mercury insurance company you use.
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guys please post a link to the mercury insurance company you use.
I have a business card that lists this as the link for some reason - http://theautoclub.com/ The guys name is James Lee that I dealt with and his phone # is 512-697-0505 or 866-247-3728. On my paperwork the "seller" is listed as The Auto Club and it is contracted to Mercury Insurance Group. Mercury also has an 800#. 800-654-8455.
Hope this helps and sorry for takin this threat .
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Originally Posted by SilverBulletAMG
I have a business card that lists this as the link for some reason - http://theautoclub.com/ The guys name is James Lee that I dealt with and his phone # is 512-697-0505 or 866-247-3728. On my paperwork the "seller" is listed as The Auto Club and it is contracted to Mercury Insurance Group. Mercury also has an 800#. 800-654-8455.
Hope this helps and sorry for takin this threat .
I just called and as of yesterday (Jan. 31st) they no longer sell extended warranties for the 6 Cyl. AMG cars.
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I just called and as of yesterday (Jan. 31st) they no longer sell extended warranties for the 6 Cyl. AMG cars.
WOW! Horrible timing for me to post the info I guess. I've been with them for a few months now. Have yet to file a claim through them. They better uphold all current contracts at least!
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I just called and as of yesterday (Jan. 31st) they no longer sell extended warranties for the 6 Cyl. AMG cars.
They must have based the decision on the highly scientific "Has your supercharger failed?" poll that we have running here.
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Originally Posted by Fifth Ring
They must have based the decision on the highly scientific "Has your supercharger failed?" poll that we have running here.

That really makes me mad....he said they sold like 4 yesterday.
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Be me....Drive both..I owned a C55 before I changed to a C32...some called me stupid (oh well...some mbworld ppl are just mean).. but I didnt regret..

C55 gets more stares...but modded C32 more fun to drive (love that kompressor whine)
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Originally Posted by derrick_lui
Be me....Drive both..I owned a C55 before I changed to a C32...some called me stupid (oh well...some mbworld ppl are just mean).. but I didnt regret..

C55 gets more stares...but modded C32 more fun to drive (love that kompressor whine)
Dude, you went backwards! -- Just kidding. Hey, do what you like, not the 'popular thing' to do.

I just think the C55 is worth the investment, if anything because of the interior; I mean, the exterior of a C32 still looks great, even better than some 07 C-Classes, but the interior of a C32, maybe not now, but in 2-3 years may start to look a little outdated (esp. w/o nav). That's why I think the C55 is worth it, but if it's out of the budget, it's out of the budget.

Good luck!

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