CLS-63, BMW M6 or Porsche 911 Turbo
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CLS-63, BMW M6 or Porsche 911 Turbo
I have the opportunity to buy one of those 3 cars, but I am not decided yet, I already drove the BMW and the porsche 911 and although the M6 has a V10 with 500Hp,you can fell the Porsche more powerful, Mercedes cls63 is a great and comfortable car and has a good powerful engine, so if anybody has one opinion about those 3 cars please let me know wich one could be the more better choice.
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Apples and oranges. Let us know what your daily drive is like, what you need in the way of capacity, work vs. play, etc. The 911 and the CLS are so different it is tough to advise you.
If you had no considerations of space, door count, seats, then I'd say go the the 911 Turbo, in a heart beat. Most fun.
If you had no considerations of space, door count, seats, then I'd say go the the 911 Turbo, in a heart beat. Most fun.
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I agree.. Three completely different cars.. I would lean towards the 911 if you want a fun car and don't need space for passengers, groceries, etc..
I would probably take the CLS if I needed the extra room..
I would probably take the CLS if I needed the extra room..
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Only problem is that the M5 is freaking ugly while the M6 looks pretty hot. So they're hardly the same car. And the price diff is not all that much, $15-$20K max.
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Hot wouldn't be the word for me to use. The front reminds me of the early 90s Chevy Lumina, kinda like a dog's nose out to sniff another dog's ***.
15-20K more for the same chassis is overpriced isn't it? It's almost like the CLK55 over a C55, but at least the interiors of both cars are different enough.
Give me a different tranny, perhaps a boost in torque and HP, then that will make sense.
15-20K more for the same chassis is overpriced isn't it? It's almost like the CLK55 over a C55, but at least the interiors of both cars are different enough.
Give me a different tranny, perhaps a boost in torque and HP, then that will make sense.
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Stop, Stop, Stop, Stop. This is not apples and oranges!
These are the real competitors. The M6's competitor is the CLS63. And the 911 competitor is the M6. This is a perfect, perfect example of a buyer who wants a 'performance coupe' for the $100K mark. And it's times like these where we get to compare style, power, comfort, price and bang for buck! (In the real world, not those stupid examples in car magazines).
The fact of the matter is the CLS is the only one with rear seats for humans, but Mercedes hardly treats it like that. They actually call it a coupe. The M6 of course is the direct competitor to the 911 - do you want lots and lots of horsepower, BMW styling, or a proven track machine (Porsche). I often think the designers at Porsche are the laziest in the industry, I mean it's been like 50 years and the car still looks relatively the same, although "the same" can hardly be called boring.
Okay, lets get to it. Besides studying about these cars individually in magazines (as if they were the main subject of my Computer Science finals -- when I was in college), I've also gotten an experience in person with each. The 911 I drove (street roads). The CLS I was driven in -- casually. And the M6, unfortunately just sat in and admired (BMW dealership). So I'm not an expert, but I'm talking from the inside out - literally.
Performance - 911 (Period). I don't care how much power the BMW and Mercedes have (500, 507 respectfully), the 911 chassis makes up for the weaker power train. The cornering, the agility, the braking, it’s all there and it's done perfect - maybe that's why they don't bother changing the style - the engineers are too busy perfecting the performance. Just think of it this way, the CLS and M6 were both made a couple of years ago, engineers at both companies had one car in mind. Oh yes they did.
Styling – This is personal choice, so if you’re a MBWorldFanatic (or own a CLS) well guess what you’ll say. BMW-Fanatics will say the M6, and people with a combination of two will tell an biased opinion – based on what the car meant/did for them. But people with none seem to say some truth [lol ]. And me being one – I say, Mercedes CLS63. While they are all good looking, the CLS interior outshines the M6, and can’t be compared to the Porsche (I guess you can say, apples to oranges), oranges are that much better.
Overall – I guess this is the part where you try and justify a $100K purchase to say, one is more ‘practical’ than the other. This is what you say to your wife. Okay, in practicality, the CLS does have rear seats, a bigger boot and many Mercedes amenities (luxury) – but those “Mercedes” amenities are also a weakness if you want to separate yourself by saying “I drive a Porsche”. In terms of driving everyday, I think they are pretty much all the same - they all come in AUTO (a.k.a. Just steer me mode - I'll do the rest), and they all have 'Sport modes', (although BMW take it to another level -- manage the Sport mode via iDrive; car starts out with 400HP).
All in all, they’re all great cars – so good job you’ve narrowed it down to the best 3. I’d say test drive each (if you haven’t already), and at the end of the day, you’ll have something in mind for each car (i.e. Mercedes = Very comfortable, I’m going to buy this car. BMW = This is a monster, I’m addicted, I need this car; Porsche = Everything I imagined since I was 5 years old – I’m getting this car). I’m sure either way, you’ll make the right decision.
Wow, that was pretty lengthy…
And I can imagine I might get attacked left-right-and-center for my review, but hey, it's Friday, I'm about to leave work and felt like ending it on a bang of entertainment!
Tee_Tz.
These are the real competitors. The M6's competitor is the CLS63. And the 911 competitor is the M6. This is a perfect, perfect example of a buyer who wants a 'performance coupe' for the $100K mark. And it's times like these where we get to compare style, power, comfort, price and bang for buck! (In the real world, not those stupid examples in car magazines).
The fact of the matter is the CLS is the only one with rear seats for humans, but Mercedes hardly treats it like that. They actually call it a coupe. The M6 of course is the direct competitor to the 911 - do you want lots and lots of horsepower, BMW styling, or a proven track machine (Porsche). I often think the designers at Porsche are the laziest in the industry, I mean it's been like 50 years and the car still looks relatively the same, although "the same" can hardly be called boring.
Okay, lets get to it. Besides studying about these cars individually in magazines (as if they were the main subject of my Computer Science finals -- when I was in college), I've also gotten an experience in person with each. The 911 I drove (street roads). The CLS I was driven in -- casually. And the M6, unfortunately just sat in and admired (BMW dealership). So I'm not an expert, but I'm talking from the inside out - literally.
Performance - 911 (Period). I don't care how much power the BMW and Mercedes have (500, 507 respectfully), the 911 chassis makes up for the weaker power train. The cornering, the agility, the braking, it’s all there and it's done perfect - maybe that's why they don't bother changing the style - the engineers are too busy perfecting the performance. Just think of it this way, the CLS and M6 were both made a couple of years ago, engineers at both companies had one car in mind. Oh yes they did.
Styling – This is personal choice, so if you’re a MBWorldFanatic (or own a CLS) well guess what you’ll say. BMW-Fanatics will say the M6, and people with a combination of two will tell an biased opinion – based on what the car meant/did for them. But people with none seem to say some truth [lol ]. And me being one – I say, Mercedes CLS63. While they are all good looking, the CLS interior outshines the M6, and can’t be compared to the Porsche (I guess you can say, apples to oranges), oranges are that much better.
Overall – I guess this is the part where you try and justify a $100K purchase to say, one is more ‘practical’ than the other. This is what you say to your wife. Okay, in practicality, the CLS does have rear seats, a bigger boot and many Mercedes amenities (luxury) – but those “Mercedes” amenities are also a weakness if you want to separate yourself by saying “I drive a Porsche”. In terms of driving everyday, I think they are pretty much all the same - they all come in AUTO (a.k.a. Just steer me mode - I'll do the rest), and they all have 'Sport modes', (although BMW take it to another level -- manage the Sport mode via iDrive; car starts out with 400HP).
All in all, they’re all great cars – so good job you’ve narrowed it down to the best 3. I’d say test drive each (if you haven’t already), and at the end of the day, you’ll have something in mind for each car (i.e. Mercedes = Very comfortable, I’m going to buy this car. BMW = This is a monster, I’m addicted, I need this car; Porsche = Everything I imagined since I was 5 years old – I’m getting this car). I’m sure either way, you’ll make the right decision.
Wow, that was pretty lengthy…
And I can imagine I might get attacked left-right-and-center for my review, but hey, it's Friday, I'm about to leave work and felt like ending it on a bang of entertainment!
Tee_Tz.
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One with 4 wheels
Is this even a real question?!
997TT all the way man.
None of the other cars come even close.
The Porsche is built like a Swiss bank vault, has the reliability of a Lexus, and is fun as hell to mod.
997TT all the way man.
None of the other cars come even close.
The Porsche is built like a Swiss bank vault, has the reliability of a Lexus, and is fun as hell to mod.
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03' E39 M5, 10' CLS63 AMG
I have the opportunity to buy one of those 3 cars, but I am not decided yet, I already drove the BMW and the porsche 911 and although the M6 has a V10 with 500Hp,you can fell the Porsche more powerful, Mercedes cls63 is a great and comfortable car and has a good powerful engine, so if anybody has one opinion about those 3 cars please let me know wich one could be the more better choice.
480 hp 450 lb-ft torque
0-60 mph: 3.7 sec.
sporty but roomy M6
500 horsepower and 383 lb.-ft. of torque,
0 to 60 mph in 4.5 seconds
a good all around car and still can turn heads. has the power to keep up with the best. CLS-AMG
0-60 mph: 4.6sec
514 HP and 630 lb-ft torque
if i had the money and had too chose between these it would be the porsche hands down.
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C55AMG W203; 330i E90
I hate to be making a could be serious decision funny. At least locally here, if we are talking about buying a new 911 (997) Turbo, the owner should be able to afford more than one car. I would be pretty happy to have a 2007 CL500 for daily commute and a 997 Turbo for going to pubs in the evening, parties or whenever I am in the mood. ( cntlaw....dream on )
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Well the best drive and most power Porsche 911 turbo
480 hp 450 lb-ft torque
0-60 mph: 3.7 sec.
sporty but roomy M6
500 horsepower and 383 lb.-ft. of torque,
0 to 60 mph in 4.5 seconds
a good all around car and still can turn heads. has the power to keep up with the best. CLS-AMG
0-60 mph: 4.6sec
514 HP and 630 lb-ft torque
if i had the money and had too chose between these it would be the porsche hands down.
480 hp 450 lb-ft torque
0-60 mph: 3.7 sec.
sporty but roomy M6
500 horsepower and 383 lb.-ft. of torque,
0 to 60 mph in 4.5 seconds
a good all around car and still can turn heads. has the power to keep up with the best. CLS-AMG
0-60 mph: 4.6sec
514 HP and 630 lb-ft torque
if i had the money and had too chose between these it would be the porsche hands down.
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03' E39 M5, 10' CLS63 AMG
Your numbers look funny, way too much torque, and no way is this car getting 4.6 0-60 4.2 all week long STOCK, there are folks into the 3's and keeping up with the 997 amazingly well considering the vast weight difference. The cars are apples and oranges. A real comparison would be between and m5 and e 63 and Z06 with the 997...CLS 63 has 4 seats and the rear seats are fine for the ladies as well as guys under 6-2
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C32 AMG Maserati Coupe GT
Don't forget
Ferrari F430 and Aston Martin DB9 as well.
I ended buying the Maserati Coupe (not quite as expensive)
I ended buying the Maserati Coupe (not quite as expensive)
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996 C4, previously owned 996 c2, c32 amg, 350z, R33 GTR, R34 GTR
How about a used 996 GT3 and a CLS55?
If not then 997TT as the best drivers car and the CLS as the best luxury/performance
M6 is ugly
If not then 997TT as the best drivers car and the CLS as the best luxury/performance
M6 is ugly