TSW 19" Bremma weights
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03-27-2007, 11:56 AM
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My findings
Originally I wanted bremma's but after hearing they are SOO heavy, I hesitated. So I looked around and the next best thing I came up with was OEM AMG C55 18" wheels from tirerack. Around $2000 plus tires. Theyt say they are "lightweight" at 26.4 lbs for the 18" x 8.5" and 27.2 lbs for the 18" x 7.5". I am looking at getting Bridgestone pole positions which weigh 25 lbs for the fronts and 27 lbs for the rear.
So we are at 52.2 lbs for the fronts and 53.4 lbs for the rears. So it sounds like Neal's 19" bremma's are extremely lightweight compared to the AMG forged wheels.
Neal,,,,can you get these tires instead of the PS2s?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....speed_rating=Y
Originally I wanted bremma's but after hearing they are SOO heavy, I hesitated. So I looked around and the next best thing I came up with was OEM AMG C55 18" wheels from tirerack. Around $2000 plus tires. Theyt say they are "lightweight" at 26.4 lbs for the 18" x 8.5" and 27.2 lbs for the 18" x 7.5". I am looking at getting Bridgestone pole positions which weigh 25 lbs for the fronts and 27 lbs for the rear.
So we are at 52.2 lbs for the fronts and 53.4 lbs for the rears. So it sounds like Neal's 19" bremma's are extremely lightweight compared to the AMG forged wheels.
Neal,,,,can you get these tires instead of the PS2s?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....speed_rating=Y
03-27-2007, 12:18 PM
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My findings
Originally I wanted bremma's but after hearing they are SOO heavy, I hesitated. So I looked around and the next best thing I came up with was OEM AMG C55 18" wheels from tirerack. Around $2000 plus tires. Theyt say they are "lightweight" at 26.4 lbs for the 18" x 8.5" and 27.2 lbs for the 18" x 7.5". I am looking at getting Bridgestone pole positions which weigh 25 lbs for the fronts and 27 lbs for the rear.
So we are at 52.2 lbs for the fronts and 53.4 lbs for the rears. So it sounds like Neal's 19" bremma's are extremely lightweight compared to the AMG forged wheels.
Neal,,,,can you get these tires instead of the PS2s?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....speed_rating=Y
Originally I wanted bremma's but after hearing they are SOO heavy, I hesitated. So I looked around and the next best thing I came up with was OEM AMG C55 18" wheels from tirerack. Around $2000 plus tires. Theyt say they are "lightweight" at 26.4 lbs for the 18" x 8.5" and 27.2 lbs for the 18" x 7.5". I am looking at getting Bridgestone pole positions which weigh 25 lbs for the fronts and 27 lbs for the rear.
So we are at 52.2 lbs for the fronts and 53.4 lbs for the rears. So it sounds like Neal's 19" bremma's are extremely lightweight compared to the AMG forged wheels.
Neal,,,,can you get these tires instead of the PS2s?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....speed_rating=Y
03-27-2007, 01:28 PM
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My findings
Originally I wanted bremma's but after hearing they are SOO heavy, I hesitated. So I looked around and the next best thing I came up with was OEM AMG C55 18" wheels from tirerack. Around $2000 plus tires. Theyt say they are "lightweight" at 26.4 lbs for the 18" x 8.5" and 27.2 lbs for the 18" x 7.5". I am looking at getting Bridgestone pole positions which weigh 25 lbs for the fronts and 27 lbs for the rear.
So we are at 52.2 lbs for the fronts and 53.4 lbs for the rears. So it sounds like Neal's 19" bremma's are extremely lightweight compared to the AMG forged wheels.
Neal,,,,can you get these tires instead of the PS2s?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....speed_rating=Y
Originally I wanted bremma's but after hearing they are SOO heavy, I hesitated. So I looked around and the next best thing I came up with was OEM AMG C55 18" wheels from tirerack. Around $2000 plus tires. Theyt say they are "lightweight" at 26.4 lbs for the 18" x 8.5" and 27.2 lbs for the 18" x 7.5". I am looking at getting Bridgestone pole positions which weigh 25 lbs for the fronts and 27 lbs for the rear.
So we are at 52.2 lbs for the fronts and 53.4 lbs for the rears. So it sounds like Neal's 19" bremma's are extremely lightweight compared to the AMG forged wheels.
Neal,,,,can you get these tires instead of the PS2s?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....speed_rating=Y
03-27-2007, 02:27 PM
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cool...i will call when i am ready,,,wanna get that CF lip that I got from ya on first
Thanks.
Would it be possible to weigh a rear Bremma with a tire on it and let us know a more pecise weight? Next time you are shipping a set or whatever.
Thanks.
Would it be possible to weigh a rear Bremma with a tire on it and let us know a more pecise weight? Next time you are shipping a set or whatever.
03-27-2007, 05:56 PM
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I will actually try to weigh a rear Bremma without a tire on it since all tires vary. If i remember i will do it later today.
03-27-2007, 06:16 PM
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Awesome Neal,,,would appreciate it.
Anybody have soem pics of a Brilliant Silver C32 with Black CLK grill, Caron Fiber lip, and Bremma's on it? Basically just like Trekman's ride, but a little bigger pics than his sig.
Anybody have soem pics of a Brilliant Silver C32 with Black CLK grill, Caron Fiber lip, and Bremma's on it? Basically just like Trekman's ride, but a little bigger pics than his sig.
03-27-2007, 06:34 PM
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03-28-2007, 01:32 AM
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the 18" bremmas are staggered but the rear wheel has no lip. its like the front wheel. Lots of people do not like it because that. 19s are the way to go.
03-28-2007, 11:03 AM
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But if the 19"s are as light or lighter than "lightweight" AMG 18" why not got with 19"s? Plus the 19" wheels make the car,,,,18" is stock size on the C55.
03-28-2007, 11:52 AM
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If you want to find out wheel weights for different rims, try this site:
LINK: WHEEL WEIGHT
It has a lot of different aftermarket wheels, their weight, how it's made, etc... It's in the AFTERMARKET / DIY Sticky thread in the regular w203 forums:
LINK: AFTERMARKET & OEM MODIFICATIONS / DIY - FAQ's W203
Seems like they only have the weight for my front rims and it is listed at 25.1 lbs for 19X8.5's and they're 3 piece forged rims. I'm figuring my 19X10's would be a little heavier than that, but I know these are lighter than some of the OEM 17's.
LINK: WHEEL WEIGHT
It has a lot of different aftermarket wheels, their weight, how it's made, etc... It's in the AFTERMARKET / DIY Sticky thread in the regular w203 forums:
LINK: AFTERMARKET & OEM MODIFICATIONS / DIY - FAQ's W203
Seems like they only have the weight for my front rims and it is listed at 25.1 lbs for 19X8.5's and they're 3 piece forged rims. I'm figuring my 19X10's would be a little heavier than that, but I know these are lighter than some of the OEM 17's.
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for the same reason i wont lower my car either, because i really do drive my car like i own it
and i really don't want any problems with rubbing or me bottoming out and soo on....
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That being said, the difference between tire width from 18-19 is 10mm width (i.e. 255/18 vs. 265/19) on the tire, so that's not really "that" much, but enough to mention.
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Power, possibly (due to wheel weight), but I wouldn't necessarily say "performance". It's a matter of perspective. With 19's you can run a wider tire in the rear, which could lead to better handling/traction. That being said, more traction could take away from some of the power. It's all a matter of what a driver wants? If you're willing to give up a little power to improve handling/traction, you're not necessarily losing performance, just making a sacrifice for one or the other.
That being said, the difference between tire width from 18-19 is 10mm width (i.e. 255/18 vs. 265/19) on the tire, so that's not really "that" much, but enough to mention.
That being said, the difference between tire width from 18-19 is 10mm width (i.e. 255/18 vs. 265/19) on the tire, so that's not really "that" much, but enough to mention.
can u not go 235/18 front and 265/18 rear on the car, and that way u can get best of the both worlds?
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The following would be very similar to stock 17 inch AMG tire setup (or Sport rim setup) - w/ regards to rolling diameter and the speedo would be about 1 mph slower from the actual speed you would be travelling.
225/45R17 to 235/40R18 (Front)
245/40R17 to 265/35R18 (Rear)
(Difference between front and rear tires would only be .2 mph)
- My 19's would be similar to the above-referenced setup. My rear tires are off from the fronts by .5 mph. I'm running 235/35R19 and 265/30R19.
Ideally, this setup would leave everything as close as possible to stock rims:
225/45R17 to 225/40R18 (Front) (Speedo off by .3)
245/40R17 to 255/35R18 (Rear) (Speedo off by .8)
(Difference between front and rear tires would only be .1 mph)
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I checked a tire calculator that I normally use and it seems like, it's possible. Only question would be "rubbing" if the car is lowered on aftermarket suspension.
The following would be very similar to stock 17 inch AMG tire setup (or Sport rim setup) - w/ regards to rolling diameter and the speedo would be about 1 mph slower from the actual speed you would be travelling.
225/45R17 to 235/40R18 (Front)
245/40R17 to 265/35R18 (Rear)
(Difference between front and rear tires would only be .2 mph)
- My 19's would be similar to the above-referenced setup. My rear tires are off from the fronts by .5 mph. I'm running 235/35R19 and 265/30R19.
Ideally, this setup would leave everything as close as possible to stock rims:
225/45R17 to 225/40R18 (Front) (Speedo off by .3)
245/40R17 to 255/35R18 (Rear) (Speedo off by .8)
(Difference between front and rear tires would only be .1 mph)
The following would be very similar to stock 17 inch AMG tire setup (or Sport rim setup) - w/ regards to rolling diameter and the speedo would be about 1 mph slower from the actual speed you would be travelling.
225/45R17 to 235/40R18 (Front)
245/40R17 to 265/35R18 (Rear)
(Difference between front and rear tires would only be .2 mph)
- My 19's would be similar to the above-referenced setup. My rear tires are off from the fronts by .5 mph. I'm running 235/35R19 and 265/30R19.
Ideally, this setup would leave everything as close as possible to stock rims:
225/45R17 to 225/40R18 (Front) (Speedo off by .3)
245/40R17 to 255/35R18 (Rear) (Speedo off by .8)
(Difference between front and rear tires would only be .1 mph)
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If you want to slightly improve handling, but sacrifice the speedometer indicating 1mph slower than the actual speed, you can go with 235/265.
Remember though, that doesn't account for possibilities of rubbing because even though the width would be the same as 19's, the height of the tire will be a little higher than what a person runs on 19's (i.e. 40/35 series tires vs. 35/30 series tires).
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If you want your car to run as close to stock as possible, then stick with 225/255.
If you want to slightly improve handling, but sacrifice the speedometer indicating 1mph slower than the actual speed, you can go with 235/265.
Remember though, that doesn't account for possibilities of rubbing because even though the width would be the same as 19's, the height of the tire will be a little higher than what a person runs on 19's (i.e. 40/35 series tires vs. 35/30 series tires).
If you want to slightly improve handling, but sacrifice the speedometer indicating 1mph slower than the actual speed, you can go with 235/265.
Remember though, that doesn't account for possibilities of rubbing because even though the width would be the same as 19's, the height of the tire will be a little higher than what a person runs on 19's (i.e. 40/35 series tires vs. 35/30 series tires).
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If you want your car to run as close to stock as possible, then stick with 225/255.
If you want to slightly improve handling, but sacrifice the speedometer indicating 1mph slower than the actual speed, you can go with 235/265.
Remember though, that doesn't account for possibilities of rubbing because even though the width would be the same as 19's, the height of the tire will be a little higher than what a person runs on 19's (i.e. 40/35 series tires vs. 35/30 series tires).
If you want to slightly improve handling, but sacrifice the speedometer indicating 1mph slower than the actual speed, you can go with 235/265.
Remember though, that doesn't account for possibilities of rubbing because even though the width would be the same as 19's, the height of the tire will be a little higher than what a person runs on 19's (i.e. 40/35 series tires vs. 35/30 series tires).
