Header question I have not found an answer to....
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Sound fair?
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They are $950 shipped. However, if you purchase a set of LET Headers and provide us with a before and after dyno showing the gains of the headers, then we will refund you $100.
So, buy them at $950, hit the dyno before and after, send us the graphs, get $100 back.
Sounds like a steal...
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I for one think it's pretty nice for a tuner to offer this sort of discount - basically refunding the dyno expenses involved, plus a little extra $ in the pocket of the owner who took the initiative...
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Jeez... what do you want, free headers in exhange for dyno-testing them?
I for one think it's pretty nice for a tuner to offer this sort of discount - basically refunding the dyno expenses involved, plus a little extra $ in the pocket of the owner who took the initiative...
I for one think it's pretty nice for a tuner to offer this sort of discount - basically refunding the dyno expenses involved, plus a little extra $ in the pocket of the owner who took the initiative...
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Some headers can be had for a mere pittance...
A cursory search for ‘camero heders’ resulted in these beauties -
Photo credit scummit
Be that as it may, the pricey Hooker’s on my ’70 SS/RS Camaro have been well worth their expenditure.
The miniscule market for our MB hotrod parts, and its accompanying economies of scale, dictates our choices and their commensurate investment. I’ve posted previously that I’m not a huge fan dynamometer figures and how they are obtained owing to the variables involved. The treadmill is okay for the gym...but what the heck difference does it make if you haven’t realistically improved where it actually matters? It’s all about how it performs on the dragstrip or road course, IMHO.
To that end, I’ve already purchased LET headers. Baseline (sanctioned event) figures have been duly recorded.
I will share their results with the forum upon installation.
A cursory search for ‘camero heders’ resulted in these beauties -
Photo credit scummit
Be that as it may, the pricey Hooker’s on my ’70 SS/RS Camaro have been well worth their expenditure.
The miniscule market for our MB hotrod parts, and its accompanying economies of scale, dictates our choices and their commensurate investment. I’ve posted previously that I’m not a huge fan dynamometer figures and how they are obtained owing to the variables involved. The treadmill is okay for the gym...but what the heck difference does it make if you haven’t realistically improved where it actually matters? It’s all about how it performs on the dragstrip or road course, IMHO.
To that end, I’ve already purchased LET headers. Baseline (sanctioned event) figures have been duly recorded.
I will share their results with the forum upon installation.
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They are kleemann headers. There is another well known company that sells them for over $4200. The problem with these cars is the demand for high performance for these cars are not very high. There is only a handful of people that are willing to mod these cars. Besides I dont think you would like to buy something cheap to save a dollar and when it is time to install then you remember how important it is to get it from someone that knows Mercedes.
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Some headers can be had for a mere pittance...
A cursory search for ‘camero heders’ resulted in these beauties -
Photo credit scummit
Be that as it may, the pricey Hooker’s on my ’70 SS/RS Camaro have been well worth their expenditure.
The miniscule market for our MB hotrod parts, and its accompanying economies of scale, dictates our choices and their commensurate investment. I’ve posted previously that I’m not a huge fan dynamometer figures and how they are obtained owing to the variables involved. The treadmill is okay for the gym...but what the heck difference does it make if you haven’t realistically improved where it actually matters? It’s all about how it performs on the dragstrip or road course, IMHO.
To that end, I’ve already purchased LET headers. Baseline (sanctioned event) figures have been duly recorded.
I will share their results with the forum upon installation.
A cursory search for ‘camero heders’ resulted in these beauties -
Photo credit scummit
Be that as it may, the pricey Hooker’s on my ’70 SS/RS Camaro have been well worth their expenditure.
The miniscule market for our MB hotrod parts, and its accompanying economies of scale, dictates our choices and their commensurate investment. I’ve posted previously that I’m not a huge fan dynamometer figures and how they are obtained owing to the variables involved. The treadmill is okay for the gym...but what the heck difference does it make if you haven’t realistically improved where it actually matters? It’s all about how it performs on the dragstrip or road course, IMHO.
To that end, I’ve already purchased LET headers. Baseline (sanctioned event) figures have been duly recorded.
I will share their results with the forum upon installation.
Agreed. But the road "test" has all the same variables as a dyno with the addition of the biggest of them all - the driver. There's no driver on a dyno.
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The Evosport header is a more efficient design than the LET header yet it is losing power? I think Evosport is a claiming 25hp gain with theirs.
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They are kleemann headers. There is another well known company that sells them for over $4200. The problem with these cars is the demand for high performance for these cars are not very high. There is only a handful of people that are willing to mod these cars. Besides I dont think you would like to buy something cheap to save a dollar and when it is time to install then you remember how important it is to get it from someone that knows Mercedes.
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LET C32 2002
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LET C32 2002
They are kleemann headers. There is another well known company that sells them for over $4200. The problem with these cars is the demand for high performance for these cars are not very high. There is only a handful of people that are willing to mod these cars. Besides I dont think you would like to buy something cheap to save a dollar and when it is time to install then you remember how important it is to get it from someone that knows Mercedes.
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Here are some of the links for the Evosport before after header HP comparisons:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ighlight=R%26D
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ighlight=R%26D
Original overview of HP expectations, Evosport 2002:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ighlight=R%26D
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ighlight=R%26D
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ighlight=R%26D
Original overview of HP expectations, Evosport 2002:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ighlight=R%26D
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More expensive does not mean better....while there were more limited vendor a year ago more and more are jumping on the boat to make money on these Mods. Just cause we have a MB doesn't mean we are stuck to pay these outragious Mod costs....vendors like Evosport, Renntech and Kleenan will start to drop their prices once they see how effective the LETs and CODE3PERFOMANCE start lowering drastically their profit on these cars. Watch once they see the letters LET and CODE3 show up everywhere.
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More expensive does not mean better....while there were more limited vendor a year ago more and more are jumping on the boat to make money on these Mods. Just cause we have a MB doesn't mean we are stuck to pay these outragious Mod costs....vendors like Evosport, Renntech and Kleenan will start to drop their prices once they see how effective the LETs and CODE3PERFOMANCE start lowering drastically their profit on these cars. Watch once they see the letters LET and CODE3 show up everywhere.
As for the other comments, I completely agree that sub-$1000 ceramic-coated performance headers for our car is a steal, given the market for MB performance parts.
You can get high quality, full SS Boxster headers for about $600, because the manufacturers can make enough profit on the volume sold... that just doesn't happen with our cars... so for us all of the R&D expenses are spread across fewer units sold, resulting in higher price points.
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I think you have answered your question with the word "variables". You will never get an exact answer as to how many hp your car will gain. Some people are saying that they lost hp with the Evosport header The Evosport header is a more efficient design than the LET header yet it is losing power? I think Evosport is a claiming 25hp gain with theirs.
The Evosport header is a more efficient design than the LET header yet it is losing power? I think Evosport is a claiming 25hp gain with theirs.I think the only way to really compare the products is to randomly pick a C32, install the Evosport headers, dyno it......... then swap the Evosport header with the LET header and then dyno the car again. It has to be same car, same dyno, same operator, and close weather conditions.
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LET C32 2002
The great part to business is in order to stay in business is to gather all avenues not depend solely on certain cars to capitalize on....LET is already in the works for a twin turbo in only a few months existence for our cars and could imagine C55 SC or TT eventually...its all a matter of time....it may take a while but if the "big boys" just let the LETs and Code3s take away revenue then what will happen next. The big boys started small too once and I bet they are watching all competitors now in order to find ways to keep them small. AT&T didn't die of when Ameritech bought them out or even Cingular they just layed low to see what to do next and thru good and bad deals they are as strong as ever....Competitions brings out the best in everyone eventually...thats why its best to have many vendors opposed to a few.
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LET C32 2002
I agree with you that more money does not mean better but my point was how many people really mod there Benz? I think if there was lots of guys buying performance parts prices would be a lot better. I am in no way agreeing with the prices i myself think the prices are crazy but unfourtantly there is not lots of Tuners to pic and choose from. Hopefully Let and Code3 doesnt forget about us c55 owners!
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The great part to business is in order to stay in business is to gather all avenues not depend solely on certain cars to capitalize on....LET is already in the works for a twin turbo in only a few months existence for our cars and could imagine C55 SC or TT eventually...its all a matter of time....it may take a while but if the "big boys" just let the LETs and Code3s take away revenue then what will happen next. The big boys started small too once and I bet they are watching all competitors now in order to find ways to keep them small. AT&T didn't die of when Ameritech bought them out or even Cingular they just layed low to see what to do next and thru good and bad deals they are as strong as ever....Competitions brings out the best in everyone eventually...thats why its best to have many vendors opposed to a few.
I truely believe in LET, as they are very honest in their claims and are doing a lot of research before they develop each part. That's why we are seeing awsome results with their pullies and headers
Keep up the good work guys
