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Old 01-19-2011, 11:38 AM
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C32/Crossfire engine swap

The answer to this question wasn't clear in other forums. If I took the engine out of a SRT-6 and put it in my 2002 C-32 AMG, how would I deal with the difference in ECU's? Am I able to just plug the the crossfire ECU into the C32 and have it reprogrammed? I would assume this would be an easy swap, but I'm not a mechanic.

If I ever did this, I would buy a Kleeman cam....
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May I ask why you plan on doing that? I think it's possible but wouldn't it be less hassle to just go with the C32 engine? In the end, they are the same engine or similar correct?
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I will gain access to a crossfire engine later this month, it has low miles and has me thinking..... 22k miles vs 105k....
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For the cost/hassle you could probably upgrade to an e55
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I will gain access to a crossfire engine later this month, it has low miles and has me thinking..... 22k miles vs 105k....
You have to think that the newer / lesser mileage engine isn't always better...
But if you are willing to go through with all the hassle, good luck with it~!
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Originally Posted by Quicktwinturbo
You have to think that the newer / lesser mileage engine isn't always better...
But if you are willing to go through with all the hassle, good luck with it~!
Agree.. Unless you do a complete overhaul you might dodge a couple of problems..
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Well, I just bought a brand new SR-T engine. 2005; 0 miles.

If someone wants to buy it off me: 8,000 obo.

If my engine blows up, I'll find a way to swap it out. What would the hassle be that you guys speak of? This would solve the tranny jerk problem and put peak hp in my 9 year old car......

What I really want to do though is find an SLK32 and swap it out with that and have some fun with it.
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not sure what issue you are thinking of. the srt-6 engine is identical to your c32 engine. the ecu recognizes the car not the engine. plug and play
the slk32 also has the same engine so your not gaining anything there.

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If someone wants to buy it off me: 8,000 obo.
Couldn't I get an e55k low-mid mileage motor for $8,000?
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not sure what issue you are thinking of. the srt-6 engine is identical to your c32 engine. the ecu recognizes the car not the engine. plug and play
the slk32 also has the same engine so your not gaining anything there.
That's what I was thinking
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So you're telling me, I put the engine in the car and connect eveything, and then what?
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Originally Posted by 400+ HPC32 AMG
So you're telling me, I put the engine in the car and connect eveything, and then what?
Have you spoken with Rudy over at the Crossfire Forums? He collaborated with SpeedDriven (Marcin) to do the 55K motor in the Crossfire... you may remember the yellow roadster. So putting the X-fire 32K motor in yours should be fairly straightforward. There will be some coding that needs to take place, but overall I can't imagine why you wouldn't be able to trick it into working. Mechanically, it's identical.

**EDIT** rcompart is his username
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I guess I don't understand why you would want an engine with 0 miles, and the rest of the cart with 105k miles. I suppose you might not have engine troubles, but everything else is going to have to be replaced @ some point too... Plus you'll never be able to sell the car.
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you should be able to reuse your stock ecu and tcu.
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I guess I don't understand why you would want an engine with 0 miles, and the rest of the cart with 105k miles. I suppose you might not have engine troubles, but everything else is going to have to be replaced @ some point too... Plus you'll never be able to sell the car.
This post is nonsense. It would make most sense in the case of my. I've dumped 20,000 in new parts for the car, if me engine failed it would almost be a good thing, I'd have a brand new engine to go with the parts.

But my goal is to make money on this, either flipping the engine, or buying a c32/slk32, putting in the new engine and selling it. margins are tight though.
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Originally Posted by 400+ HPC32 AMG
This post is nonsense. It would make most sense in the case of my.
Don't understand this sentence.

I've dumped 20,000 in new parts for the car, if me engine failed it would almost be a good thing, I'd have a brand new engine to go with the parts.
OK so you spent $20,000 on parts just in case your engine failed? Not sure why you would spend $20,000 in parts on a C32 when you could have bought a C55 to drive for those days your C32 wasn't running. Don't understand this logic.


But my goal is to make money on this, either flipping the engine, or buying a c32/slk32, putting in the new engine and selling it. margins are tight though.
OK so you already spent $20,000 on parts for a car who's engine could potentially fail in the future... bad decision #1. And now you are talking about buying yet another car to put this engine in it? Bad Decision #2. And now you want to sell the whole mess... perhaps 2 cars (or maybe 1) with different engines, etc and your talking about a tight profit margin? Bad Decision #3.

So who do you think is going to buy the car with 105k miles on the chassis and a new motor? Not even a new C32 motor... sure its the same, but different part number, doesn't match VIN, etc. Anyone who knows anything about these cars enough to be an enthusiast would steer away. Not to mention potential title issues. And FYI there isn't going to BE a profit margin unless you manage to sell a 105k mile C32 for over $20,000.

Why not buy a kit car and put the motor in that? Hell, even an MX-5?
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you dont have to trick your car to do anything. ITS THE SAME ENGINE. the ecu recognizes the 3.2 s/c engine not the specific vin of the engine. its plug and play. now iif your droppping it into a slk320 chassis then you need to reprogram. as your car already has the same engine its just going to see the same thiong it sees now
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the engine and tranny itself is mechanical and is operated by the ecu and tcu. If you reuse your old ecu and tcu, then you don't need to reprogram anything. Its direct plug and play.

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