Brabus lowering springs
07-09-2003, 02:46 PM
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ones too fast according to CHP!
Originally posted by Carl AMG
What do you think of the Bilstein PSS9 for coilovers compared to the H&R's?
It's funny but nobody talked about a spring change wearing out the shocks before the H&R coilovers were available!
What do you think of the Bilstein PSS9 for coilovers compared to the H&R's?
It's funny but nobody talked about a spring change wearing out the shocks before the H&R coilovers were available!
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05-06-2004, 08:18 AM
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I just picked up this old thread instead of making a new one (see Simon Lam..I learned something ).
Do Brabus springs also make the AMG shocks wear out quickly? Or is it just a problem with cars having a massive drop?
Also, can you recommend buying the Brabus suspension package with shocks and springs or would you rather go with some coilovers?
I like having the handling abilities improved w/o slamming the car.. A little drop is nice though
).Do Brabus springs also make the AMG shocks wear out quickly? Or is it just a problem with cars having a massive drop?
Also, can you recommend buying the Brabus suspension package with shocks and springs or would you rather go with some coilovers?
I like having the handling abilities improved w/o slamming the car.. A little drop is nice though
05-06-2004, 08:34 AM
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2002 C32 AMG Orion Blue Charcoal/Blue
RENNtech Spring/OEM Shocks Update
I noticed how old this thread was and my contributions earlier on and wanted to give an update:
My OEM shocks are still fine after living 20 months with RENNtech springs. This includes about six days at the track and a handful of autocross events.
That said it looks like there are some nice coilover options (Carlsson, Bilstein, etc.) for the C32 now. It's a big difference in price over a lowering spring option but I imagine the performance is reflective of the investment. If you just want the lowered look just go for the RENNtech springs and be done with it. The C32, in my opinion, looks much better with a little drop.
My C32 will remain as is in terms of modifications. I have decided it would be kind of foolish to turn the C32 into a track car when I have a highly modified WRX that loves the track and a Lotus Elise arriving around the end of the year.
My OEM shocks are still fine after living 20 months with RENNtech springs. This includes about six days at the track and a handful of autocross events.
That said it looks like there are some nice coilover options (Carlsson, Bilstein, etc.) for the C32 now. It's a big difference in price over a lowering spring option but I imagine the performance is reflective of the investment. If you just want the lowered look just go for the RENNtech springs and be done with it. The C32, in my opinion, looks much better with a little drop.
My C32 will remain as is in terms of modifications. I have decided it would be kind of foolish to turn the C32 into a track car when I have a highly modified WRX that loves the track and a Lotus Elise arriving around the end of the year.
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05-06-2004, 10:29 AM
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Re: RENNtech Spring/OEM Shocks Update
Originally posted by Carl AMG
I noticed how old this thread was and my contributions earlier on and wanted to give an update:
My OEM shocks are still fine after living 20 months with RENNtech springs. This includes about six days at the track and a handful of autocross events.
That said it looks like there are some nice coilover options (Carlsson, Bilstein, etc.) for the C32 now. It's a big difference in price over a lowering spring option but I imagine the performance is reflective of the investment. If you just want the lowered look just go for the RENNtech springs and be done with it. The C32, in my opinion looks much better with a little drop.
My C32 will remain as is in terms of modifications. I have decided it would be kind of foolish to trun the C32 into a track car when I have a highly modified WRX that loves the track and a Lotus Elise arriving around the end of the year.
I noticed how old this thread was and my contributions earlier on and wanted to give an update:
My OEM shocks are still fine after living 20 months with RENNtech springs. This includes about six days at the track and a handful of autocross events.
That said it looks like there are some nice coilover options (Carlsson, Bilstein, etc.) for the C32 now. It's a big difference in price over a lowering spring option but I imagine the performance is reflective of the investment. If you just want the lowered look just go for the RENNtech springs and be done with it. The C32, in my opinion looks much better with a little drop.
My C32 will remain as is in terms of modifications. I have decided it would be kind of foolish to trun the C32 into a track car when I have a highly modified WRX that loves the track and a Lotus Elise arriving around the end of the year.
05-06-2004, 11:35 AM
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Re: Re: RENNtech Spring/OEM Shocks Update
Originally posted by AMG BRED
I think the shocks going out way faster is just a myth..it will go out faster but not any faster that it's noticeable when combined with stock springs.
I think the shocks going out way faster is just a myth..it will go out faster but not any faster that it's noticeable when combined with stock springs.
05-06-2004, 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by SiLvaC32
yea... H&R coilovers are awesome! Sean (vader13) and myself both have it and it is great!~
Jerry
yea... H&R coilovers are awesome! Sean (vader13) and myself both have it and it is great!~
Jerry
Brabus makes the Eibach spings Harris, same thing..
Also Brabus makes the Eibach E class lowering box.
oh snaps, this is some old *** thread..
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05-07-2004, 12:47 AM
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I forgot how intertaining this thread was...
So who has the H&R coilovers on their car? Vader has Intrax spring and stock shocks?
Brabus makes the Eibach springs? That is the funniest thing I have heard. All Eibach's? A particular model fitment? This should be good...
So who has the H&R coilovers on their car? Vader has Intrax spring and stock shocks?
Brabus makes the Eibach springs? That is the funniest thing I have heard. All Eibach's? A particular model fitment? This should be good...
05-07-2004, 01:08 AM
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so what's the price difference between the Eibach and Brabus lowering springs?
just reading the previous couple pages, I think I would have to agree with Harris, Carl, and AMG BRED the most. The lowering springs will shorten the life of the shock, but not to the extend of only lasting 5-10k miles after the swap. My friend has a 99 328i sport w/ H&R springs. He has probably 70k miles by now and the shocks has been fine so far.
just reading the previous couple pages, I think I would have to agree with Harris, Carl, and AMG BRED the most. The lowering springs will shorten the life of the shock, but not to the extend of only lasting 5-10k miles after the swap. My friend has a 99 328i sport w/ H&R springs. He has probably 70k miles by now and the shocks has been fine so far.
05-07-2004, 02:15 AM
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Brabus does privite label for Eibach for W203.
Brabus also does the new E lowering component for Eibach, peel the sticker off the unit, It has a Brabus label right under the Eibach sticker.
I found this out during the Intrax R&D
Intrax makes springs for a few companies as well.
The Intrax drop is around 1.5 front and 1.3 rear.
My kit might be a little different on a regular W203
Eibach is 1.2 all around.
Here is my drop, no rubbing except when the Doc is in the back.
edit, Frank DROP THAT CAR
Brabus also does the new E lowering component for Eibach, peel the sticker off the unit, It has a Brabus label right under the Eibach sticker.
I found this out during the Intrax R&D
Intrax makes springs for a few companies as well.
The Intrax drop is around 1.5 front and 1.3 rear.
My kit might be a little different on a regular W203
Eibach is 1.2 all around.
Here is my drop, no rubbing except when the Doc is in the back.
edit, Frank DROP THAT CAR
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05-07-2004, 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by Vader13
Brabus does privite label for Eibach for W203.
Brabus also does the new E lowering component for Eibach, peel the sticker off the unit, It has a Brabus label right under the Eibach sticker.
I found this out during the Intrax R&D
Intrax makes springs for a few companies as well.
The Intrax drop is around 1.5 front and 1.3 rear.
My kit might be a little different on a regular W203
Eibach is 1.2 all around.
Here is my drop, no rubbing except when the Doc is in the back.
edit, Frank DROP THAT CAR
Brabus does privite label for Eibach for W203.
Brabus also does the new E lowering component for Eibach, peel the sticker off the unit, It has a Brabus label right under the Eibach sticker.
I found this out during the Intrax R&D
Intrax makes springs for a few companies as well.
The Intrax drop is around 1.5 front and 1.3 rear.
My kit might be a little different on a regular W203
Eibach is 1.2 all around.
Here is my drop, no rubbing except when the Doc is in the back.
edit, Frank DROP THAT CAR
btw, can't drop the car because it'll be in the shop to get the rear bumper and trunk lid fixed. http://www.mbklasse.com/forums/showt...6291#post76291
05-07-2004, 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Vader13
Brabus does privite label for Eibach for W203.
Brabus also does the new E lowering component for Eibach, peel the sticker off the unit, It has a Brabus label right under the Eibach sticker.
I found this out during the Intrax R&D
Brabus does privite label for Eibach for W203.
Brabus also does the new E lowering component for Eibach, peel the sticker off the unit, It has a Brabus label right under the Eibach sticker.
I found this out during the Intrax R&D
05-07-2004, 12:59 PM
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Yes, I am using Intrax and stock AMG shocks.
The ride is great, we have a shipment on the way from Holland soon for the W203 kits.
Brabus drop will not be as agressive as the Intrax drop for the C32, but should look fine.
Eibach and Brabus are both in Germany, sometimes it's easier to privite label parts from others.
It happens more than you think, and not with just springs..
The ride is great, we have a shipment on the way from Holland soon for the W203 kits.
Brabus drop will not be as agressive as the Intrax drop for the C32, but should look fine.
Eibach and Brabus are both in Germany, sometimes it's easier to privite label parts from others.
It happens more than you think, and not with just springs..
05-07-2004, 02:26 PM
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Could it be Eibach's makes springs for Brabus but maybe Eibach ran out of the ones labled "Eibach" so they took some of the ones intended for Brabus and put a Eibach sticker over them.
I think my Carlsson springs are made by Eibach as well.
I think my Carlsson springs are made by Eibach as well.
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eibach..
who here has the eibachs (which part # please), and how do they relate to renntech's (if +/- Firmer) as well as the H&Rs.
I had eibachs on previous cars before with IMHO very good (stiff/firm) results, especially when complemented with bilstein or koni sports.
How do the Intrax compare in firmness with the aforementioned as well??
TIA.
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I had eibachs on previous cars before with IMHO very good (stiff/firm) results, especially when complemented with bilstein or koni sports.
How do the Intrax compare in firmness with the aforementioned as well??
TIA.
lap
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Re: eibach..
Originally posted by lap
who here has the eibachs (which part # please), and how do they relate to renntech's (if +/- Firmer) as well as the H&Rs.
I had eibachs on previous cars before with IMHO very good (stiff/firm) results, especially when complemented with bilstein or koni sports.
How do the Intrax compare in firmness with the aforementioned as well??
TIA.
lap
who here has the eibachs (which part # please), and how do they relate to renntech's (if +/- Firmer) as well as the H&Rs.
I had eibachs on previous cars before with IMHO very good (stiff/firm) results, especially when complemented with bilstein or koni sports.
How do the Intrax compare in firmness with the aforementioned as well??
TIA.
lap
They are all OK, Everyone has different driving styles.
Oh and my Brabus wheels are made by someone else as well.
05-08-2004, 01:17 AM
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To the best of my knowledge, Brabus, as a tuner, not manufacturer, does not have the tooling and equipment to make springs. In the quantities they produce, it would not be cost effective for them to do so, especially for a limited and insignificant amount of springs supplied for the C32 in this example. Could you confirm who you spoke with at Brabus or Intrax that gave you this most certainly misleading information?
What is in the Brabus W203 kits besides springs?
Frank, you indicate that aftermarket springs will decrease the life of a stock shock, which is not what your references have said, but then state that your friend has a five year old 328 with over 70k miles with aftermarket springs and his stock BMW shocks are fine. Why do you think stock shocks will fail prematurely with the proper matched aftermarket spring? And how do you explain your friends success?
What is in the Brabus W203 kits besides springs?
Frank, you indicate that aftermarket springs will decrease the life of a stock shock, which is not what your references have said, but then state that your friend has a five year old 328 with over 70k miles with aftermarket springs and his stock BMW shocks are fine. Why do you think stock shocks will fail prematurely with the proper matched aftermarket spring? And how do you explain your friends success?
05-08-2004, 06:21 AM
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Originally posted by smgC32
Frank, you indicate that aftermarket springs will decrease the life of a stock shock, which is not what your references have said, but then state that your friend has a five year old 328 with over 70k miles with aftermarket springs and his stock BMW shocks are fine. Why do you think stock shocks will fail prematurely with the proper matched aftermarket spring? And how do you explain your friends success?
Frank, you indicate that aftermarket springs will decrease the life of a stock shock, which is not what your references have said, but then state that your friend has a five year old 328 with over 70k miles with aftermarket springs and his stock BMW shocks are fine. Why do you think stock shocks will fail prematurely with the proper matched aftermarket spring? And how do you explain your friends success?
