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Old May 5, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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C32 vs C55 times...what the ?

http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/c32amg2003-1.htm
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http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/c55amg2004-1.htm


Compare the 0-200km/hr times?

What about CLK55 (heavier car) same gearing, getting 0-160kph (100mph) in 11 seconds?

C55 is really disappointing!
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Old May 5, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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everyone knows that MB is pretty conservative on their AMG 0-60 times...even the regular line up as well, but more on the AMG side.

They listed the C32 was 4.9 and I believe you can get 4.5 out of it...I think MB said C55 as 5.2 0-60, but 99%, it can be attained in under 5, probably 4.8 or something like that :p

The HP gain and the weight difference in the C32 and C55 could also be a playing factor. But nonetheless, C55 should be good!

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Old May 5, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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that didnt suprise me a second.. the S/C is know for its special way to release it's force.. thats why the SL55 is the fastest sportscar to 300 km/h.. faster than the lambo..

I didnt expect the C55 to be slower to 100 km/h though.. may be cause of the 18" wheels..
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Old May 5, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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12,000euro more
.2 sec SLOWER in the slalom.
1.9 sec slower to 200km/hr.

?

Hang on to your C32's resale is going to go up
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Old May 5, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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The ONLY explanation is the V6K is producing more than 354hp. Autocar of UK said it easily feels like car with 400bhp.

Add to the fact of the ease of tuning supercharged engines, whats the point of this C55? I mean 2 seconds slower to 124mph, thats well embrasassing!


BTW the SL55 does 0-300km/hr in 43-45 seconds, that particular AMS SL was prototype SLR engine in it, 617bhp! And not 500bhp!
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Old May 5, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by Bilal

BTW the SL55 does 0-300km/hr in 43-45 seconds, that particular AMS SL was prototype SLR engine in it, 617bhp! And not 500bhp!
lol, where did you get that info? I doubt Mercedes would do that. If they got caught, nobody would ever be interested in benz car tests anymore..
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Old May 5, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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If I were getting a C, I would get a C55 simply for the fact that you can put a Kleemann SC on it and make it insane. But, that is just me.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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If I were getting a C, I would get a C55 simply for the fact that you can put a Kleemann SC on it and make it insane. But, that is just me.
then i would just get an e55
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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by ro0zy
then i would just get an e55
As a value play, yes. But, I bet a SCed C55 would be faster and handle much better than the E55.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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true dat
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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As a value play, yes. But, I bet a SCed C55 would be faster and handle much better than the E55.
Yep!...I am with you.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by Sleestack
If I were getting a C, I would get a C55 simply for the fact that you can put a Kleemann SC on it and make it insane. But, that is just me.
Its just me as well- our C55 arrives 2nd week in June supposedly- we will see.

Full tuning program is lined up for it: SC, Camshafts, Headers and Downpipes, LSD, TS-6 etc. Ill post some pics when it arrives and during the modifications.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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wow that's going to be incredible with all that stuff - how much does that C weigh?
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:22 AM
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Originally posted by KLEEMANN
Its just me as well- our C55 arrives 2nd week in June supposedly- we will see.

Full tuning program is lined up for it: SC, Camshafts, Headers and Downpipes, LSD, TS-6 etc. Ill post some pics when it arrives and during the modifications.
You guys get to have all the fun. As soon as I heard about the C55, that's the first thing that came to my mind. Can't wait to see it.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 01:13 AM
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hehe...guess it's just to protect mb for the poor soul who gets the slower car that runs about the same as the mb claim #
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Old May 6, 2004 | 02:23 AM
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one thing makes me feel a bit wierd..

check this one out:

http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/c32lamg2001-1.htm

thats the test from 2001.. the performance specs differ from the one posted before.. can anyone explain this to me? I can't think of any changes made?
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Old May 6, 2004 | 03:11 AM
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My guess is the dates of the tests, the faster C32 seems to be tested in January, and you know what cool weather does to supercharged engines....

Its in German BUT

about that SL55, well you have to download this excel spreadsheet.
http://www.kunzi.info/Auto/berechnun...istung-amg.zip

Find the SL55 section, then find (PS) and see how much time it takes to do 0-300km/hr, then change PS output from 500ps to 617ps, and check the 0-300km/hr time.

BTW, the original Nardo time recorded with 617bhp on the SL55 was 32.5 seconds....
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Old May 6, 2004 | 04:48 AM
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good point with the weather.. guess you're right.

that excel sheet is very interesting. German is my primary language by the way

Imma check it out.. thx for the info
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Old May 6, 2004 | 05:25 AM
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Sorry about that, from your sig you "looked" very American.

No probs, I just wanted to educate the people who think the SL55 beats the Murcie...I was a believer too until I came across the spreadsheet. It includes other cars, so change some power outputs and redlines, and have some "theoretical" fun
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Old May 6, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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Re: C32 vs C55 times...what the ?

Originally posted by Bilal
http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/c32amg2003-1.htm
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http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/c55amg2004-1.htm


Compare the 0-200km/hr times?

What about CLK55 (heavier car) same gearing, getting 0-160kph (100mph) in 11 seconds?

C55 is really disappointing!

I think that's a misprint, it says that they tested the C55 in 7/2004, i'm sure that we're not in July yet

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Old May 6, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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I think that's a misprint, it says that they tested the C55 in 7/2004, i'm sure that we're not in July yet
It is July in Europe with the time change and whatnot.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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It could also be a difference in ESP programming from the C32 to the C55, or even between tests. They say that the ESP gets in the way in turns with the C55's massive torque. I'm not sure if this is the case with the C32 as well, but given that they're doing standing start tests it wouldn't surprise me if ESP is causing huge variations. Most of my experience is with the BMW camp, and even people with 330s (225hp/215ft-lbs) can tell you that 245mm of tire in the rear is not enough for straightline traction. The C55 could definitely use 265 or even 275 all around for proper grip.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by Peench
It is July in Europe with the time change and whatnot.

lol, i hope your kidding
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Old May 6, 2004 | 11:49 PM
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Madc32, you speak my language.

C55 is probably rated in DIN as opposed to SAE. Should be interesting when it hit the states to see what the performance difference is...if any.

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Old May 7, 2004 | 01:26 AM
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It wouldn't make sense for MB to go and plug in a V8 (albeit sans SC) to make the C55 slower than the C32...I am hoping they are just 'dumbing us up' for a real SOOPRIZE!
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