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Old 09-26-2018, 11:42 PM
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Driver seat won’t move forward

Hey Guys,

I recently acquired an ‘02 C32. I was cleaning it out today and moved the seat all the way back. The seat will now not move forward, the other functions work fine (recline, up/down, steering column). I hear a noise when I push the forward and back button, but no movement. I checked the two fuses in the interior and one in trunk. I unplugged the switches underneath the seat w/ no results.

Any ideas as to what might be going on or the next steps to troubleshoot? Your input would be very much appreciated! I’m just thankful it got stuck in the back position vs. forward. All my MBs have had quirky issues w/ the seats. 😕

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Rob
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Cool

Originally Posted by kowalski
did you check something not stuck in seat rails?
Something tells me there might be, but visibility around the rails is so limited.

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Old 09-27-2018, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RPB
Hey Guys,

I recently acquired an ‘02 C32. I was cleaning it out today and moved the seat all the way back. The seat will now not move forward, the other functions work fine (recline, up/down, steering column). I hear a noise when I push the forward and back button, but no movement. I checked the two fuses in the interior and one in trunk. I unplugged the switches underneath the seat w/ no results.

Any ideas as to what might be going on or the next steps to troubleshoot? Your input would be very much appreciated! I’m just thankful it got stuck in the back position vs. forward. All my MBs have had quirky issues w/ the seats. 😕

Cheers,

Rob
Unless these seats are different than most other power sets, there will be a screw drive arrangement (lead screw) that's powered by the motor, so it would take a really solid obstruction at the end of the rails to stop it. Similarly, screw drives of this nature cannot be back-driven. Given that, you can help narrow down a bit by attempting to operate the power seat while also pushing on the seat yourself. If that gets it to move, I believe that narrows it down to excessively gunked or obstructed seat rails, the seat rails getting cocked and bound up by hitting the limit of travel (only true if there is a single lead screw on one seat rail but not the other)... or the possibility that the mechanism is simply allowed to run completely off from the lead screws in that direction of travel (so if you run the seat "too far", the screw and nut disengage from one another). If that doesn't get it to move, then the sound could help narrow it down further. If the motor sounds like it's not under any load, or if there is clicking or crunching, then that points to something broken or the mechanism - with the arrangements I've seen, that would mean the mating nut for the lead screw stripping out. If you don't hear the motor working, then there's possibility it could be the motor but since this problem coincided with you moving the seat to the end of its travel, I would lean toward the lead screw being jammed. If there is something for a hard stop limiting its movement in that direction, then the lead screw would bind up in its mating nut if run too hard against it. If there is nothing for a hard stop, but the screw hasn't turned all the way out from the nut yet, that could indicate an obstruction in the threads of the leadscrew at the far end. Verifying, and fixing, most of those scenarios involves getting access to the lead screw(s) (presumably within the seat rails).

I wish I was more familiar with these particular seats, but I haven't had mine out yet.
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Originally Posted by mars-red
Unless these seats are different than most other power sets, there will be a screw drive arrangement (lead screw) that's powered by the motor, so it would take a really solid obstruction at the end of the rails to stop it. Similarly, screw drives of this nature cannot be back-driven. Given that, you can help narrow down a bit by attempting to operate the power seat while also pushing on the seat yourself. If that gets it to move, I believe that narrows it down to excessively gunked or obstructed seat rails, the seat rails getting cocked and bound up by hitting the limit of travel (only true if there is a single lead screw on one seat rail but not the other)... or the possibility that the mechanism is simply allowed to run completely off from the lead screws in that direction of travel (so if you run the seat "too far", the screw and nut disengage from one another). If that doesn't get it to move, then the sound could help narrow it down further. If the motor sounds like it's not under any load, or if there is clicking or crunching, then that points to something broken or the mechanism - with the arrangements I've seen, that would mean the mating nut for the lead screw stripping out. If you don't hear the motor working, then there's possibility it could be the motor but since this problem coincided with you moving the seat to the end of its travel, I would lean toward the lead screw being jammed. If there is something for a hard stop limiting its movement in that direction, then the lead screw would bind up in its mating nut if run too hard against it. If there is nothing for a hard stop, but the screw hasn't turned all the way out from the nut yet, that could indicate an obstruction in the threads of the leadscrew at the far end. Verifying, and fixing, most of those scenarios involves getting access to the lead screw(s) (presumably within the seat rails).

I wish I was more familiar with these particular seats, but I haven't had mine out yet.
Wow! I really appreciate your detailed response!!! I will try to push it forward and have someone press the forward button simultaneously. Your theory sounds to be right about it going a bit too far back. I might of held the button for an extended period. I definitely hear a clicking sound when I hit the forward/back button which makes me think the switch is not at fault, but I am not hearing the motor underneath. I plan on doing everything I can before I succumb to the dealership.

You definitely sound well versed on these seats!! Thanks again!

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