svt ricco

post more pix of your car, i wanna see the side profile. i'm thinking of getting vogtland springs too. as soon as i sell my h&r's, i'll be getting those springs.

Vicious_c43

Sure bro, give me a few days there's a park near my crib to take good pictures....also my summer rims are on it now.

Vicious_c43

Also check out post #7 this is Trinitony's Vogtland set up #2 pads all corners w/ monoblocks side profile....looks sweet.

Affalterbacher

Funny, my Eibach (but for C36) are on backorder too!
Ordered them already mid April, they'll not have them before end of June!!!

jayrasheed

guys are the H&R springs stiffer than the stock, or they just drop height, i am looking for stiff springs for my 36 AMG, and i really dont't know what to go for. and which of the 2 sag, was it H&R or Eibach??? which will offer stiffer ride? i dont need that much of a drop.

appatula

Im also interested, moreso in the Eibachs. I've got a set in the garage for the summer but am hesitant to go through putting them in before I hear a bit of input on drop, ride quality, stiffness ect. I'll try to dig up some info on them Jay.

AMG_C36

i've got some H&R's and billy sports that are going on my C36 this weekend. i'll let you guys know how things go and how they feel....

FWIW, i have nothing but good experiences with H&R's on a lot of other cars i have owned, which is why i went that route with the 36......it was basically between the 3 that we are talking about now; H&R, Eibach and Vogtland.

99CEEFOURTHREE

vicious 43 Where did you get the voght suspension kit,wat does it consist of? How much? Looks AWESOME!

AMG_C36

hey, just following up on why experience installing my H&R's this weekend. first of all, i got the exact look i was going for. slight rake and not too too slammed. the one thing i was surprised about was how bouncy the ride was right after the install. i know that it takes time for everyhting to settle and for the springs and shocks to get a little "broken in", but the rear of the car seemd overly bouncy. not bouncy like i was on cut springs and crappy shocks, just bouncy due to the stiffness of the new parts. anyone have any idea as far as how long the "break-in" period is or how long it takes for for the car to fully settle? i will post some pics when i get a chance to take some good ones (currently pouring rain here in the beautiful pacific northwest)

Vicious_c43

Thanks! The kit came with f/r springs and shocks, I have to find my receipt cant remember how much I paid for them but I did my research and I got em for lower price online.

Also recently I changed from #2 to #4 pads f/r it was too low for me...raised it about 9mm it feels much better now I like driving the c43 aggresive

jayrasheed

Need to ask for a favor:

Any of you with a set of H&R for the 36; would u be kind enough to measure the coil thickness for the fronts and rears plz.
Any of you with a set of H&R for the 43; would u be kind enough to do same as above.


Ben, can you do same with the Eibach set u have at home

trinitony

Not sure, but with Vol' it was fine right out of the box.

appatula

Not a problem Jay, I'm just not sure what you mean by coil thickness. Should I just take a caliper measurement to one of the coils, or do you mean the diameter of the whole coil itself? Cant wait till my new tires come in and I get the eibachs in, I'll be ballin for the summer .

v0ac

make sure it's low enough!!!!!!!!!!

well...it's never low enough

jayrasheed

yes Ben,
thats exactly it, measure one of the coils with a caliper. My AMG36 and prolly urs too has a 15mm coil thickness on the fronts. The 43 has a 16mm one. I know its not the only factor in calculating the spring stiffness but since all are very close in design it should give an idea.
The extra 1mm of the 43 over those of the 36 have a gr8 effect making the 43 a really flat car in the turns.

99CEEFOURTHREE

Vicious 43 side profile pic with the pad change Car looks awesome once again!!!!!!

AMG_C36

yeah man, the H&R's i got are just too stiff. i think i am either going to go with the vogtland's or the eibachs, depending on prices and drops. i love the look with the H&Rs that are on there right now, but it rides like sh-t.....especially in the rear.

any experiences comparing vogtland and eibach springs specifically would be killer.

Darth Speed

I just installed the Bilstien Sports on my C36 with the stock springs. The car handles very well compared to my SCCA 924S. I would like to change the springs and get just 1/2" Lower. The roads suck here so cant go too low. any suggestion? I should have looked at the spring pads when I was changing the shocks!

appatula

What about sway bar thickness, is there any difference in that area? I would assume that would also aid in keeping the car flat as well.....and I'll pocket a caliper for the day at work tmrw, stay tuned man.

PJmak

both cars run bilstein sports and H&R sports. Mine(c430 has no pads in front, not sure what number pads he uses

jayrasheed

the Sawy bars are the same man on both the 36 and the 43.
ok measure the rear one too for me plz.

thou the 43 and 36 showed no difference on the rear springs.

jayrasheed

Guys can any confirm if the H&R sport kit offered for the 43 are stiffer than those offered for the 36 1995.
I was on the phone with H&R and the refused to disclose any info regarding stiffness.
They just said the sport kit will be slightly stiffer than stock. That being said, i know that the 43 is stiffer from factory than the 36 so can we assume that same will be true for the H&R, ie: 43 kit stiffer than 36 kit?

jayrasheed

So are they stiffer than stock springs? i want the stiffest of the three brands mentioned here, but still can u confirm if they have flattened the ride of your car more than the stocks?
my car runs on semi-slicks, so comfort is not my priorety.

Vicious_c43

Here's a photo of the pad change #2 to #4 with vogtland suspension kit with my summer rims....I'm happy with the pad change due to road conditions at my location.

jdhertz11

Hers's my car now. I am running W210 E55 18's...