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Old 01-14-2010, 04:20 PM
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so everytime winter comes around my key wont turn in my ignition, i called the dealer yesterday and my buddy told me one of the techs said its my key that might be bad, i dont have a spare so i cant check, i think it might be the eis, i dont know if i should trust his judgement and get a new key or get the eis replaced. any sugestions, it only does this when its cold.
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You should have a spare anyways start with a key...
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Originally Posted by JonMBZ
You should have a spare anyways start with a key...
Yea thats what im thinking as well, i hope its not the eis. What are the chances that it is my key? It is the original key, and sometimes it wont lock or unlock the car, and i just changed the batterys .
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Yea thats what im thinking as well, i hope its not the eis. What are the chances that it is my key? It is the original key, and sometimes it wont lock or unlock the car, and i just changed the batterys .
I would think it would more likely be the key since it uses a different signal to open the door than to turn the car on, but without proper diagnosis you can't be sure. Goodluck
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Originally Posted by e30t387
one of the techs said its my key that might be bad.
Note the word "might".

For starters, you should always have a second key, you can get stuck very easily without one and it makes it MUCH more difficult to diagnose EIS/key/central locking issues without 2 keys.

You said that it happens when it's cold. Does it happen when the car is left outside or in a warm garage? Do you hear the steering lock disengage when you insert the key? sometime the steering lock motor gets a little stiff in cold weather. They aren't servicable but "excercising it" (repeated inserting and removing of the key for a few mins) does make a noticable difference to it's operation if it's sticking/slow.

Get yourself a second key and keep it with you, when it faults then you have a second key to try to be able to eliminate the key as a problem.
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Originally Posted by Ausmbtech
Note the word "might".

For starters, you should always have a second key, you can get stuck very easily without one and it makes it MUCH more difficult to diagnose EIS/key/central locking issues without 2 keys.

You said that it happens when it's cold. Does it happen when the car is left outside or in a warm garage? Do you hear the steering lock disengage when you insert the key? sometime the steering lock motor gets a little stiff in cold weather. They aren't servicable but "excercising it" (repeated inserting and removing of the key for a few mins) does make a noticable difference to it's operation if it's sticking/slow.

Get yourself a second key and keep it with you, when it faults then you have a second key to try to be able to eliminate the key as a problem.
I got my new key in today i picked it up on my lunch break , i ran home and tryed it it , it worked fine so i guess it was my key, when i inserted the old key the pin didnt lock or unlock so i couldnt turn the key, with the new key as soon as i put it in it unlocks right away, so im glad it was a 100 dollar fix and not the eis. The up part is that i have a nice new style key, but i think me and my c43 are going to part ways, i might be looking into a e55 or a new sti.

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