nd4spd13

So maybe I'm completely nuts, but does anyone have the slightest idea if mercedes brakes (say, 95 C36 brakes) could be fitted with none to minimal fab on an e30? I know the e30 uses four nut hubs, so could the whole hubs be switched, or would it just be an INSANE pita?

Just trying to see if I can squeeze some more use out of this hunk of rare, gorgeous scrap metal

DRBC43AMG

Interesting question, but I have no idea

cm60k

It depends of the hub spes., some models uses 4x100 & the other uses 5x120,, with 83.2mm/143mm hub dia with centric hub 66.2mm/72.5mm/79.1mm

bore with nut,, of course you can fab. the bolt pattern as you wish, or use a spacer, from 83.2mm/143mm to 150mm in dia & 66.2mm/72.5mm/79.1mm in

bore dia,(depend of the model),, all about customizing job.........

ZAYED,,

JohnnyRock

Wow, interesting question...but like Zayed alluded to, anything is possible with time and money! Hahaha...but since you specifically asked if this could happen with minimal fab, I'm going to say, "no". Maybe more to the point, "why would you?".

There are plenty of BBKs for the e30 platform. Great chassis, great car (I own 3 in addition to my AMG ). Stock brakes are more then adequate for the job at hand, just ask the spec e30 racers!

But give it a whirl, it would be very cool to see AMG brakes under a Bimmer!

clkwork

Only one way to find out.... do it and let us know! I should swap my black series parts with e30 stuff before the lease is up. '89 325i AMG BS ftw

cm60k

+1.......

ZAYED,,

cm60k

nd4spd13

Because I don't happen to have a wrecked car with e30 spec BBK brakes sitting in my driveway

I've loved that platform too. My friend has had a couple that have always been fun. My plan is for it to already be a bit of a budget, frankenstein car, so AMG brakes would go perfectly. BMW e30-R AMG. Needed to do something with that SR20 sitting in my driveway, and seeing as I love the platform and it's a relatively common swap......

nd4spd13

Also I know a lot of people do 5-lug mods to their e30s (mostly using E36 parts so it seems, because e30M parts are rare and pricey) so I imagine from there it wouldn't be terribly difficult, because the e36 parts can accept e36M parts, and that's the same generation as the 202, so they should be somewhat similar

Saaboteur

I think E36s are gonna be the more modern BMW 5x120 bolt pattern.

I suppose you could try to just fit the caliper onto the E30 disc, then you're looking to fabricate a mounting bracket (unless of course it just happens to fit). I'm thinking it won't bolt up that easily, unfortunately.

Keep in mind you also need to consider master cylinder diameter, to be sure it will properly match up with the C36's calipers.

Have you tried marketing the whole wreck to the W124 crowd? Don't those guys do complete C36 drivetrain swaps into unlikely cars? Keeping things 'in the family' as it were is always a bit easier, IMO.

nd4spd13

Exactly. That's why people change the spindles/hubs etc. from e36 to e30 so they can use 5x120 wheels.

Thanks for that. I totally forgot about the master cylinder.

I have a guy that may be interested in the drivetrain. I offered him the rest of the car, so we'll see where it goes. Just trying to think up what else I could use from the 36 so I can maybe save some money for the e30 project. And yes, I believe he wants to use it in a 124. Would be cool to see it in a 201 also.

Saaboteur

Ah, when you were talking about hub swapping, I thought you meant to the E30 M3 5 bolt hubs...are those 5x120 too? I can't seem to recall. Seems to be a sort of recurring theme with smaller, sport models - if I remember right, the Integra Type-R also went to five bolt hubs too, whereas the plebeian Integra stuck with the four bolts.

blackbenzz

I can tell you E36 M3 rear hubs should press into W202 wheel bearing.

nd4spd13

Yeah sorry if I was confusing. People do the swaps to the normal e30 with either E36 parts, or E30 M parts, but because the e30M parts are somewhat rare and pricey, most people just use the E36 parts. But yeah, i think they're 5x120 as well



Awesome! Thanks man

blackbenzz

No problem. If you want a new hub and bearing I cab sell you one of each. I bought then to try and out in my car but I abandoned the project and went a different route

JohnnyRock

nd4spd, if swapping the e30 hubs over to 5-lug, 5x120 bolt pattern, the proper method (going off the top of my head, so excuse me if not completely correct ) is:

FRONT - e36 M3-control arms ('96-); M3, Z3, M coupe-spindles, brakes & struts, offset (M3) control arm bushings must be used in order to properly space the wheel in the well, along with '96+ control arms.

REAR - Many choices of cars (Z3 1.9L, M Roadster, M Coupe) but most say the 318ti is easiest to find. Use axles from your e30 as they are more robust then the 318ti's.

That's it, in a nutshell....