J-98C43

I know there have been a lot of posts about this, but I can't seem to find any posts that detail a permanent solution. Can some one point me to the post or republish the proceedure. Maybe we lost it when the site went down several weeks ago?

Just for clarity, I know how to shut off the ESP but it's my understanding that ASR doesn't actually shut off. A way to make the ESP kill switch, kill ASR at the same time would be sweet!

Thanks!

moebisgold

The best way I found was to short out pins 1 and 6 on the X11/4 data link connector (diagnostic port) Take out yuour cluster and remove the ASR bulb, it will stay lit, and forget that it ever had ASR. The best thing that I ever did to my C36.

J-98C43

By short it I assume you mean cross the pins? A small gauge wire pushed into the pin connectors would do the trick right?

J-98C43

Two more questions:

1) Will this also disable ESP? Anything else that it disables?

2) This puts ASR in a constant diag mode right? Are there any long term affects of this?

Thanks for the help!

moebisgold

I actually took a very fine multistranded piece and had to pull 4 strands out to make it work. I just pushed it as flat as possible after inserting it and screwed the cap back on. Actually the ASR computer is stuck in endless diagnostic mode. This worked great on my 95. My blown 99 C43 had S/W mod so that off is Off on ESP switch. I don't know much about how it was done yet other than it works.

moebisgold

There is a possibility that this will disable your ABS if you have a N30 or a ABS / ASR N30-1 control module. I just tried it. The worst that might happen is your ABS light will come on also. Meaning your ABS will be disabled also. Remember that anyway and test the brakes first before you even think of gettting carried away. The other option is to disconnect the front wheel speed sensors. Then you will definetly not have ABS, ASR, or ESP. I kinda like the ABS, and the brakes in general.

moebisgold

I should have also said that if you have ASR/SPS control module N47-1 or an ETS/SPS control module N47-2 or an ESP/SPS module N47-5 , these will be what is disabled.

J-98C43

Who did your S/W reprogramming? I'd like to find out if they can just set ASR to turn off when I switch ESP off.

moebisgold

Check out the bit about ASR Sw. at the bottom of this:
http://bergwerks.com/M119nitrous.jsp. Call them. There are some Euro tuners that offer it for MB but it is way expensive. Please let me know what you find out.

speedybenz

I found that on my C280 sport that had ASR that when I put front tires that had a smaller diameter that the ASR could not figure out what was going on so it basically did not work much or if all.

I was running 235/40/17 fronts and 255/40/17 rear tires.

And on my C43 when I turn off the ESP is does almost nothing. I can spin the car or lay down a 100 feet of rubber and there is no ESP function that I can detect.

With the ESP on and at speeds over 60 mph it does not kick in until I have the rear tires spinning and the car is drifting and then it slowing kicks in but without the engine being cut back, or if it does its not much.

J-98C43

So now I'm back to another question. If cutting ESP off really disables all of the "Nanny" feature of the computer then why can't I spin the tires on my C43? Is there something wrong with this thing or is the computer keeping spin in check?

moebisgold

Hmm, not even on bad pavement? The only other stock one I've been in didn't either but the way people post ... When mine wasn't running right, floored in the rain would bairly spin the tires. Now 1/2 throttle in first is guarenteed to spin on good pavement in the dry. But that's a SC Can't hurt to have a tuneup.

J-98C43

Ok tried it a few hours ago. It was about 45 degrees and the car was cold. It spun 1 tire, a little better than halfway through 1st gear. Two things contributed here I think: 1) Cold air = increased power (to a point), and 2) Cold tires = less traction. It's also possible that I never really stopped, turned off ESP, floored it, and paid close attention for the express purpose of spinning the tire. Sounds like it's normal from what you said.

I've come up with a couple of theories to explain this: 1) Relatively tall gearing in the differential from the factory. 2) I think these things hook up pretty well compaired to other high power cars. 3) I was used to driving a 6 speed Z-28 that would light things up even with 315/35R17's out back, so the standard that I am measuring it too is probably a little skewed. Does this sound in line with what others have found?

moebisgold

Everything sounds normal to me. Remember you only have 300 something HP and Torque. I had a mean 410 SB Chev. but You can't compare with liters more of disp., 11.7 w bowties blah blah. The C43 is a much better sedan. In fact my heart is beating faster thinking about it. I'm going for a drive. The roads are finally dry!

speedybenz

When my C43 was stock it had a tough time spinning the rear wheels. Now that I have a good cat back exhaust and ram air it will light up the tires pretty easy from a stop and will also light up the tires if i am rolling along at 20 mph and floor it. The downshift back to 1st gear puts enough Hp to the ground to spin the tires too.

J-98C43

Sounds easy enough. What catback exhaust and ram air kit do you have Speedy?

99SlvrC43

Hmmm? with my stock, I dont even have to floor it to lite up the rears.

narci

Best way is not get ASR in the first place.

I didn't get ASR with my car.

I think my car is one of the rare cars that came with no ASR.

sandruud

Hello

Did you have ECU from BOSCH or VDO for the gearbox and engine when you did this. The ASR ECU is from Bosch on my car and engine and gearbox is from VDO.

Could you send an picture of the shortcut you have made. ???

Did you feel any reduction of engine power when doing this ?

I have tried to disconect ASB sensor but loosing engine power down to 50%.

yuvs.n

Any one know if asr was on the early c36's,i dont think I have it because the car lights up the rear very easily.If the roads are wet and you take of at about 1300-1500rpm the car goes sideways,but I have noticed when the car gets into a drift you just simply back off the accelerator and it corrects itself?

Jons95c36amg

This thread is 3yrs old!

AMGJared

Haha yeah way old...but it is encouraged for people to use the search tool rather than making new threads.

yuvs.n

O lol didnt know!

Agresivni Ridic

I just unplugged ABS module. No ABS but also no Traction and Stability control