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raw1879 12-22-2017 04:02 PM

C55 AMG track car engine tuning Kleemann
 
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Here my dyno run stock engine
Hi all happy Christmas

So I’ve finally decided to do some engine mods to my car here’s a list

Kleemann cams
Kleemann ECU tune
Ported cylinder heads
Lighten valeve springs retainers
Coustom exhaunt system (headers to follow)

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raw1879 12-22-2017 04:34 PM

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Max BHP 320bhp before mods
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raw1879 12-22-2017 04:41 PM

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PJmak 12-22-2017 04:55 PM

Any difference in sound with those cams?

mickey13 12-22-2017 08:23 PM

wow very nice. 361 at the wheels. a lot of ppl brag about their hp/tq, but never produce anything to back it up except "butt dyno"

are you happy with it?

raw1879 12-23-2017 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by mickey13 (Post 7341457)
wow very nice. 361 at the wheels. a lot of ppl brag about their hp/tq, but never produce anything to back it up except "butt dyno"

are you happy with it?

Its not finished yet that’s the dyno before the mods I’ll do another dyno once everything is finished

raw1879 12-23-2017 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by PJmak (Post 7341358)
Any difference in sound with those cams?

not started it yet

eFifty5AMG 12-23-2017 02:49 AM

360 stock engine is pretty damn healthy. Very nice work Rob! Any plans of going FI?

raw1879 12-23-2017 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by eFifty5AMG (Post 7341604)
360 stock engine is pretty damn healthy. Very nice work Rob! Any plans of going FI?

just to confirm it’s 320 BHP and 360 torque stock

i was talking to a guy that has a Kleemann sc for sale at the Nurburgring he has a garage there then I spoke Claus at Kleemann who said they won’t supply parts and that I should buy new. I didn’t want that plus it might be to much power

raw1879 12-23-2017 07:40 AM

Just started it for the first time runs sweet but have oil leake from chain tensioner seal so I’ve ordered a new one I’ll post a video soon

PJmak 12-24-2017 02:02 AM

Cant wait to hear it

raw1879 12-24-2017 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by PJmak (Post 7342085)
Cant wait to hear it

I’ll have the new tensonier next Thursday then I’ll do a video. I can’t wait to get it on the dyno but first I need to get the headers made and coated as the old OBX headers are warped and leake. I’ve had it with trying to get headers the only way is to have them made. The guy doing it worked in motorsport Angie will charge around £1200

mickey13 12-24-2017 12:04 PM

headers are the worst for this car, there is no where to turn. still kicking myself in the ass when zayed offered up that kleemann pair and i didnt jump on them

raw1879 12-24-2017 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by mickey13 (Post 7342270)
headers are the worst for this car, there is no where to turn. still kicking myself in the ass when zayed offered up that kleemann pair and i didnt jump on them

I spoke to Kleemann about headers for my car they said no way on a right hand drive

cm60k 12-24-2017 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by mickey13 (Post 7342270)
headers are the worst for this car, there is no where to turn. still kicking myself in the ass when zayed offered up that kleemann pair and i didnt jump on them

Don't worry bro.,,

i'm definitely sure, you will find a good set when the LUCK knocks your nice door..;)

=;ZAYED;=

cm60k 12-24-2017 02:43 PM

Hey Rob,

Nice job man..:y,,

Do you have Phenolic thermal spacers for transfer heat from intake manifold..?,,

and, are you using "3.07" or "2.82" Quaife LSD..??

-;ZAYED;-

raw1879 12-24-2017 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cm60k (Post 7342367)
Hey Rob,

Nice job man..:y,,

Do you have Phenolic thermal spacers for transfer heat from intake manifold..?,,

and, are you using "3.07" or "2.82" Quaife LSD..??

-;ZAYED;-


Hi zayed

where would you use the spacer. I’ve coverd bottom half of manifold with zorcflex a heat barrier

my diff is 307


cm60k 12-25-2017 03:39 AM

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They should be between intake ports & block case,,

really nice for heat insulation..:)

-;ZAYED;

impballr 12-25-2017 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by raw1879 (Post 7341608)


just to confirm it’s 320 BHP and 360 torque stock

Seems like you are down on power since the 43 motor makes 302 BHP, figured you would be at least @ 350 BHP with the 55. Either way, awesome build, cant wait to see the results!

DRBC43AMG 12-26-2017 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by cm60k (Post 7342584)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...4e98c92d54.jpg
They should be between intake ports & block case,,

really nice for heat insulation..:)

-;ZAYED;

I also have a set sitting around since 2012 but have never got the courage to fit them. Probably afraid to break something in the fuel rail, injectors or connectors somewhere

ECTurboGSX 12-26-2017 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by impballr (Post 7342834)
Seems like you are down on power since the 43 motor makes 302 BHP, figured you would be at least @ 350 BHP with the 55. Either way, awesome build, cant wait to see the results!

This is wheel horsepower versus the 302 being crank horsepower. A C43 makes ~240-245 horsepower at the wheels stock. Assuming equivalent drivetrain loss (as a percentage), 320 wheel horsepower works out to roughly 400 crank horsepower.

impballr 12-27-2017 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by ECTurboGSX (Post 7343497)
This is wheel horsepower versus the 302 being crank horsepower. A C43 makes ~240-245 horsepower at the wheels stock. Assuming equivalent drivetrain loss (as a percentage), 320 wheel horsepower works out to roughly 400 crank horsepower.

He said BHP in both of his posts, not WHP

DutchC54 12-27-2017 09:49 AM

nice work done there!!!are those valve covers painted or coated???here's my dynothread: https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...went-dyno.htmli have not done any porting and swapped cams.

ML63 AMG 12-27-2017 01:50 PM

Is that an engine dyno or a chassis dyno?

mickey13 12-28-2017 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by DutchC54 (Post 7343799)
nice work done there!!!are those valve covers painted or coated???here's my dynothread: https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...went-dyno.htmli have not done any porting and swapped cams.


i noticed those beautiful valve covers too. was going to search the forum before i asked but i guess you saved me some work :D just waiting on answer now lol


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