Does the C43 and C450 drift once the TC is turned off?
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The C450 ESP "OFF" mode was really a sport mode, so you couldn't really turn it off. The C43 adds a third mode (truly off), so you'll need someone to take their shiny new C43 and give it a shot. The 69/31 torque split might give enough rear bias. In an AWD car you need good rear bias and/or a very capable driver to make it happen on dry pavement.
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I would just be happy if the car would step out just a bit under hard acceleration but I don't think even with lateral load it would do so.
While I've only test driven a few, I did not find the car rotated under power, and a couple of times was understeering when hard on it.
While I've only test driven a few, I did not find the car rotated under power, and a couple of times was understeering when hard on it.
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You can indeed get it to misbehave with al traction control turned off. That being said, throw on some summer slicks and it will be a hoot! Will it ever fishtail as much as a full time RWD car? No. That's not necessarily a bad thing, unless you insist on drifting to work and on your drive to the grocery store lol.
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I actually really wanted to get the C63 just for this reason. People buy AMGs because they are more laughs than anything else out there. I dunno, I will get my C43 next month, so may be I will try give it a try when I get it, haha.
Is there any youtube video of people trying it? I think even though this car is pretty rear biased, the fronts get enough torque to neutralize any attempts you will take.
Hopefully next year I will just let the 43 go and get a 63s.
Is there any youtube video of people trying it? I think even though this car is pretty rear biased, the fronts get enough torque to neutralize any attempts you will take.
Hopefully next year I will just let the 43 go and get a 63s.
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I actually really wanted to get the C63 just for this reason. People buy AMGs because they are more laughs than anything else out there. I dunno, I will get my C43 next month, so may be I will try give it a try when I get it, haha.
Is there any youtube video of people trying it? I think even though this car is pretty rear biased, the fronts get enough torque to neutralize any attempts you will take.
Hopefully next year I will just let the 43 go and get a 63s.
Is there any youtube video of people trying it? I think even though this car is pretty rear biased, the fronts get enough torque to neutralize any attempts you will take.
Hopefully next year I will just let the 43 go and get a 63s.
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i ordered a c43, but thats the one thing i really did kind of want. the c63 i didn't want the power, but getting a car to rotate just a little is fun in itself.
probably for the best though, with more power it probably isnt the best idea ever ( i can basically do it on ever corner in my 328 once i swapped the tires)
probably for the best though, with more power it probably isnt the best idea ever ( i can basically do it on ever corner in my 328 once i swapped the tires)
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Do people have any more feedback on the OP's question? Getting the rear end to step out, even on dry pavement, is a nice fun part of owning an AMG. Would be a pity if the C43 is as planted as some reviews make it out to be
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With TC on I wasn't able to.
Exactly how this translates to dry pavement I'm not sure, but I would guess yes
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We had a wet spell last week and with the TC off the tail did come out a bit as I was timidly playing with it. Won't try it on dry public roads though, I think the hooning required for that would be best for the track with run offs.
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On wet pavement, tried to take a 90 degree left turn, first gear, had a bit of speed (not starting from a complete stop), TC off, stepped on the gas a bit, took the 90 turn and another 180, ended up nicely parked on the opposite lane, on the road I wanted to enter in the first place... no more TC off in sport+ on a wet road .
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I can cut donuts all day every day. I've done it just once on dry pavement (I like my tires but it was fun once), a few times on accident in the rain while stepping on it mid left-hand turn, and had a dozen or two donut sessions in snow covered parking lots..
Despite being AWD, thanks to the rear bias, this car is blast.
Despite being AWD, thanks to the rear bias, this car is blast.
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Just following up (OP here, forgot pass to first acc). I haven't really tried anything on dry roads considering I did not want to eat up my winter tires. But did turn the TC off in wet roads and had a total blast. I felt like I had total control over the drifts. Even the really crazy drift angles can be controlled very intuitively. Did do 2 complete donuts on the wet as well. It was pretty fun. I recently got a Hero 4 Black. Next time I try it, I will record it.
BTW I live on the country side and there are some places I can go to do this where there is nothing within 2km radius.
Tires are OEM 19" LM32s.
BTW I live on the country side and there are some places I can go to do this where there is nothing within 2km radius.
Tires are OEM 19" LM32s.
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2017 C43 donuts with ease w ESP off. 1. Push and hold ESP button(car icon w fishtail skid marks, left of command touch pad controller) 2. Sport+ mode. 3. Mash it and turn in open parking lot. Serious donuts to be had on all surfaces even pavement with the summer sport run flats. Turning ESP off also eliminates the tight turn low speed faulty fuel pump like power cutoff experienced when trying to pitch the tail around town. Drives mush better with ESP off but be careful! I've over cooked it on dry pavement with exuberant low speed power slide turns resulting in some fishtails. Car is nicely powered and well balanced but with ESP OFF you CAN get into oversteer trouble! In heavy snow the ESP can hurt you as well! Best to keep ESP in sport mode(push button once but don't hold) and keep revs high to bite through snow to pavement and use gear box to slow. Lifting gas pedal or ESP lifting power in snow can get you in serious spinout trouble. Stay on it and have fun.
Aside, I upgraded to Conti DWS06 air tires on stock 19" staggered rims for winter which is a much softer smoother safer ride. Excellent tire! I considered the 18” rim option but just swapped the tires and will likely keep them all year round. Harder to break loose and not as secure at "ludicrous speed" but great for rain and snow and very comfy. Runflats suck in rain and snow and any bumps but alas the no spare. Also BEWARE the runflats with Sport+ firm suspension setting! You will bend your 19" rims on northeast potholed roads! Runflats are like riding on cement wheels with extremely harsh unforgiving ride.
Aside, I upgraded to Conti DWS06 air tires on stock 19" staggered rims for winter which is a much softer smoother safer ride. Excellent tire! I considered the 18” rim option but just swapped the tires and will likely keep them all year round. Harder to break loose and not as secure at "ludicrous speed" but great for rain and snow and very comfy. Runflats suck in rain and snow and any bumps but alas the no spare. Also BEWARE the runflats with Sport+ firm suspension setting! You will bend your 19" rims on northeast potholed roads! Runflats are like riding on cement wheels with extremely harsh unforgiving ride.
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