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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 11:32 AM
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Eurocharge Stage 1 Version 2

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to share that i just received my version 2 upgrade from Eurocharge. I will be re-installing the ECU tonight along with some speedo vids (hopefully) Stay tuned for my impressions and videos. If you have any questions hopefully I or/and Eurocharge can help answer them!
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 12:00 PM
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Hey Guys,

Just wanted to share that i just received my version 2 upgrade from Eurocharge. I will be re-installing the ECU tonight along with some speedo vids (hopefully) Stay tuned for my impressions and videos. If you have any questions hopefully I or/and Eurocharge can help answer them!
This is just basically enhancements to the stage 1 you already had correct? Did they smooth out the Hp/Tq curve and add more HP? Did you install any additional power adders to your c43?

I wonder if they will incorporate the v2 changes also into the Stage 2 for downpipes.
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 12:19 PM
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This is just basically enhancements to the stage 1 you already had correct? Did they smooth out the Hp/Tq curve and add more HP? Did you install any additional power adders to your c43?

I wonder if they will incorporate the v2 changes also into the Stage 2 for downpipes.
Yes, enhancements to stage 1 that i already had. They definitely did smooth out the hp and tq curve and more power. So far no other additional power adders. I am positive they will incorporate the v2 changes for stage 2 with down pipes.
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 01:01 PM
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I have heard that the new version makes 408hp, 465tq- at the wheels, not sure how this compares to AMR or the other tunes but 465 Torque at the wheels seems pretty damn beefy.

Also I was told that they offer a warranty as well.

No, I am not affiliated with Euro Charge or any other tuner- I am a corrections officer
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 01:10 PM
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I have heard that the new version makes 408hp, 465tq- at the wheels, not sure how this compares to AMR or the other tunes but 465 Torque at the wheels seems pretty damn beefy.

Also I was told that they offer a warranty as well.

No, I am not affiliated with Euro Charge or any other tuner- I am a corrections officer
Umm...even 408whp is pretty beefy. That's essentially almost 500hp give or take a few hp here and there.
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 01:14 PM
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@ Lazz83 you are correct, those are the power numbers to the wheels, actually think its a tad bit higher And yup they do offer a warranty as well.

@ DameMD it is plenty powerful for a tune only. Once i have it installed i will hopefully have some videos up for reference for everyone.
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 01:17 PM
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I'm on EC Stage 1 V2, been a few days and loving it!. Going to the track this Friday, lets see what kind of numbers it puts down.
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 01:18 PM
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 01:52 PM
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Alexasa unfortunately no, car is re tuned but the re tune fee isnt too much.
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Originally Posted by ShazV6
Alexasa unfortunately no, car is re tuned but the re tune fee isnt too much.
So essentially labor and shipping/install?
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 02:07 PM
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I'm on EC Stage 1 V2, been a few days and loving it!. Going to the track this Friday, lets see what kind of numbers it puts down.
Going with my buddy threefirs? I was trying to come down and meet him this Friday for the track as well but i wouldnt be able to make it
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mau108
I'm on EC Stage 1 V2, been a few days and loving it!. Going to the track this Friday, lets see what kind of numbers it puts down.
Did you have the stage 1 before this?

If so, what are your impressions so far?
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ShazV6
Going with my buddy threefirs? I was trying to come down and meet him this Friday for the track as well but i wouldnt be able to make it
Yah, we're going together. Might be a couple others joining as well.

I'm a little upset that I'll no longer be faster than mau108's sedan but I'm looking forward to see what our cars do with the V2.
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Originally Posted by DameMD
Did you have the stage 1 before this?

If so, what are your impressions so far?
I've had both. I'm actually one of the test cars that they worked out the quirks and developed this tune on. I'm on week 3 of having the V2.

It has quite a noticeable difference in low end power and timing than the V1. There are parts of the powerband that I'm making 50WHP more, although the peak WHP difference is around 15 between versions. Torque there are portions that I'm making 60WTQ more at low RPM, and about 30WTQ more at peak numbers. The shifting seems faster on V2 compared to V1, and the car sounds more aggressive - I have the performance exhaust.
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Originally Posted by ShazV6
@ Lazz83 you are correct, those are the power numbers to the wheels, actually think its a tad bit higher And yup they do offer a warranty as well.

@ DameMD it is plenty powerful for a tune only. Once i have it installed i will hopefully have some videos up for reference for everyone.
No. This is taken off a private message the manufacturer sent me- he quoted those as exact numbers they just recorded.
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 06:17 PM
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Umm...even 408whp is pretty beefy. That's essentially almost 500hp give or take a few hp here and there.
How do you figure 500hp- I am just curious- no offense? Drivetrain loss is calculated at 17% on the C43, even so that is a **** ton of HP compared to stock.

Funny how everyone gets different numbers for HP on this car- Dinnan measured 415hp at the crank, Renntech Measured 375hp at the Crank and AMR was different than those two.
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 06:21 PM
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Is there a dyno graph available? Not just peak numbers, I'd like to see stock vs. tuned curve
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Originally Posted by Lazz83
Funny how everyone gets different numbers for HP on this car- Dinnan measured 415hp at the crank, Renntech Measured 375hp at the Crank and AMR was different than those two.
All dynos measure different and some can be manipulated to show higher/lower numbers. They are nothing more than a tuning tool, what's important is showing the difference between stock vs. tuned and the power-band.
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Is there a dyno graph available? Not just peak numbers, I'd like to see stock vs. tuned curve
I only have V1 vs Stock, and V2 vs V1. I just sent an email off to Eurocharged to ask if they can send me the V2 vs Stock graph. Will update you later...
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Originally Posted by Lazz83
How do you figure 500hp- I am just curious- no offense? Drivetrain loss is calculated at 17% on the C43, even so that is a **** ton of HP compared to stock.

Funny how everyone gets different numbers for HP on this car- Dinnan measured 415hp at the crank, Renntech Measured 375hp at the Crank and AMR was different than those two.
NO WAY that an AWD car is only suffering from 17% DTL. 22% minimum. Maaaaaaybe 20.
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NO WAY that an AWD car is only suffering from 17% DTL. 22% minimum. Maaaaaaybe 20.
Off topic - how is the fitment on your BBS rims? What size/offset did you get and are you running spacers?

I want to get 19" BBS LM's.. Thanks in advance.
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Off topic - how is the fitment on your BBS rims? What size/offset did you get and are you running spacers?

I want to get 19" BBS LM's.. Thanks in advance.
Mmmmmm.....LMs :drool:

You know, I can't remember the numbers off the top of my head right now. They're 8.5 front and 9.5 back and I'm using a 10mm spacer up front. I think I remember the offsets but I'm not positive so I don't want to give you incorrect info. PM me so we don't distract from this thread and I'll dig up the exact offsets for you later tonight or tomorrow.
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eurocharged c43 dyno graph
almost wish they would tune that hump out of it at 2.5k so it just build more linearly and eliminate the dip at 3k.
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almost wish they would tune that hump out of it at 2.5k so it just build more linearly and eliminate the dip at 3k.
Yah, I agree. I think all the full tunes have it. It is -much- less of a dip on V2 than it is on V1 for Eurocharged though. Just makes it that much harder to launch the car..
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