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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 01:41 AM
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alignment problem for H&R lowered C43 sedan!!



Hi, guys. I am very happy to post in this section for the first time.

The inaccuracy of the four-wheel alignment data after lowering the height of the car has driven me crazy recently. I have gone to a reputable modification shop for alignment, the mechanic told me he aligned as best as possible. I have put the align list in this thread on the top.
For right now, my current steering wheel can't be centered. I have to tilt the steering wheel slightly to the left to get a straight line. (Sorry for the bad description, I am not a native English speaker.)
Since our car can't adjust camber, and I noticed that there still have large total toes for my front and rear. (0.43 for up front and 0.47 for the back) This should be the reason why my car pulling to the right when the steering wheel is centered I guess? Are there any suggestions from you guys?

Should I go to them again to do alignment again? Where should I look for the accurate four-wheel alignment data after the body is lowered? To H&R?

I am sorry to ask so many questions. But I am looking forward to any reply!!!
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 08:09 AM
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Is it a slight pull to the right or like you have to constantly correct to keep from changing lanes?
Toe looks good, not sure why the car would pull with negative even camber, and the steering wheel should be adjusted independently of the camber when he is adjusting toe, though ive not looked at our suspension to see if its something overly complex.
I would try a different shop, but if there isnt a camber adjustment then all you can expect is a straight wheel and no pull. And .2-.4° out of spec isnt really much to be concerned with on a lowered car. you might eat through the inside tread of a tire faster, but we dont see 60k miles on tires with these cars anyways.
Also FWIW very slight movement to the right can be seen due to road angle to help with rain displacement. Also helps keep cars from running into oncoming traffic if a driver falls asleep/ dies etc. The road angle should move the car slightly towards the shoulder.
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 08:09 AM
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Your camber is fine but you need them to adjust the toe to 0. Trust me, I felt your pain and wasn't until after months of playing with settings and discussing with a number of specialists that I realized it was the toe that was causing the problem. Dont worry if MB will say it will be in the "red". Set toe to 0.
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MatthewJ
Is it a slight pull to the right or like you have to constantly correct to keep from changing lanes?
Toe looks good, not sure why the car would pull with negative even camber, and the steering wheel should be adjusted independently of the camber when he is adjusting toe, though ive not looked at our suspension to see if its something overly complex.
I would try a different shop, but if there isnt a camber adjustment then all you can expect is a straight wheel and no pull. And .2-.4° out of spec isnt really much to be concerned with on a lowered car. you might eat through the inside tread of a tire faster, but we dont see 60k miles on tires with these cars anyways.
Also FWIW very slight movement to the right can be seen due to road angle to help with rain displacement. Also helps keep cars from running into oncoming traffic if a driver falls asleep/ dies etc. The road angle should move the car slightly towards the shoulder.
It's like a slight pull to the right if I keep my steering wheel straight, I think I should go to their location again to fix my toe angle so that makes it closer to 0? Then ask them to re-correct the steering wheel?

Thanks for your reply!
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 10:17 PM
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Your camber is fine but you need them to adjust the toe to 0. Trust me, I felt your pain and wasn't until after months of playing with settings and discussing with a number of specialists that I realized it was the toe that was causing the problem. Dont worry if MB will say it will be in the "red". Set toe to 0.
Since I live in Alabama, there's nothing in my area. Every time I need to dive to 200 miles away to Georgia to find some "reputable" auto shop.
Actually, there is one MB dealership in my area, but they told me that because my car is too low and I have my aftermarket front lip, they can't lift my car, which sounds stupid. Should I continue to seek a modification store or find a dealer to adjust my toe?

Thanks!
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Old Apr 18, 2019 | 08:09 AM
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Any decent alignment shop will be able to lift your car and adjust your toe. It's a fairly easy adjustment.
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That's right...... you can't adjust Camber front or rear (or front Caster) to change tire contact angles.

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