ProV1

anyone know something about this car? is it out yet? i was watching the USOpen lastnight and they mentioned about a 400HP Lexus IS. is lexus officially entering the BMW M/AMG/Audi S market??

iku

r u talking about the IS-F? if you are, then u're pretty behind in the field of automotives! it's just a beefed up IS, with a v8 engine and 8 gears(auto, with paddle shifter)

ProV1

lol u can tell i dont follow lexus cars much

AsianML

You're talking about the Lexus IS-F. Just because Ricky loves hearing the numbers, they're supposed to be making only 4,500 of them.

ScottW911

Lexus was running the IS/F pace car at the Monterey Historics (Laguna Seca) last month. It looked fast (smoked the IS350 pace cars every lap) and sounded pretty nice.

And yes, you are a little behind the automotive curve if you've never heard about it. Try a subscription to Road & Track.

The IS/F should be here very soon. The C63 should make it look weak.

eplants02

Roger Federer got the keys to a 08 Lexus IS-F!

MercedesFTW

Damn Federer...I was glued to the first two matches though, only checking in on the Bears to see the score!

Anyways, give Lexus some time...they'll eventually make a nice sporty car. Until then we can laugh at them.

Actually, I take that back. Where would they fit in the market? The M division focuses on no compromise driver experience (well maybe not the new M3...) whilst out AMG guys are hard working on earth turning engine power, combined with average Mercedes customer in mind (ie, a softer, but still brutally fast luxo car). The Audis somewhere in between, I'd say.

Quicktwinturbo

I stopped watching US open after Sharapova got owned by some lady..

So MR.Fed got an IsF huh? damn...It's a nice car I'm sure but performancewise, I doubt the car will come close as the new C63 or M3...

uownme

None of yall have seen it, how can you make such speculations about a car you have never seen/ridden in?

Sound like a bunch of e-children making wild assumptions about nothing you know about.

For all we know, it could smoke the amg or m.


....(waiting to be slaughtered for making a difference of opinion and not thinking the new c63 is god's gift to man.)

ProV1

anyone know how much this "IS-F" will cost? also, will lexus make GS-F, LS-F, etc?

Quicktwinturbo

IS -F should be around 50k-60k
GS-F mite have V10 and should be priced ard 60-70k
LS-F 80-100k prolly

ProjectC55

+1 +1 +1 Just plain fanboy ignorance is what I call it.

C43AMG

...and Whoopi Goldberg could be the next face of Avon.

MercedesFTW

I'm just speculating based off of Lexus's history...when they first started making Luxo cars, they didn't fare very well did they? But they kept on chugging and look where they are now. This is their first performance oriented series, and the IS-F doesn't sound like it can play with the Big 3 right now, from the given specs.

jacek9478

Actualy they r in the market, for now it is very limited.
Lexus has own tuning division. I don't know when it started, but my partner has 01 GS430 L-Tuned, so at least since 2001. In Chicagoland I've seen only 1 of those besides my partners.
It is a very nice car. If I remember correctly it has 340hp engine
it's 4.3l N/A V8. pretty quick I must say.

Regards
Jack

ScottW911

Speaking of "making assumptions", do you ever bother reading a thread before piping in? As I stated in post #5, I have witnessed (for 3 days) firsthand, the IS/F running hot laps at Laguna Seca. Granted, this car was outfitted as a Pace Car with a professional driver, but from my point of view, it was no more impressive than a C55. You would have to be and absolute boob to not believe that the C63 will be considerably better in all aspects than the C55.

Finally, YES, we think the C63 will be God's gift to man (or at least Stuttgart's gift to man). You are in a C63 forum, you doofus. We come to this forum to beat our chests and crow about the insanely awesome car we all lust for. Why would be come to the C63 forum to lust for a Rice-rocket like the IS/F? Come on. We don't come over to your Trans-am forum and call you an idiot for your taste in cars, do we? Geeze.

uownme

You sat in the stands watching a car drive in circles. You have NO idea how the car felt, handeling or acceleration wise. The difference will be small, and from that distance you can make no logical assertion of its capablities.

I drive the exact same car as you, thats why I visit these forums and I like the c63 just as much as the next guy. I am not saying the IS-F is better, I'm just stating that no one knows if it is or not. Quit being a child about and think before you make wild assumptions.

ScottW911

Yup, sat in the stands, walked around it, and followed it around to observe it at each turn and straight. I compared it to the other cars on the track and made the most logical conclusion I could make, without driving it myself. That's a whole lot better than reading my favorite car mag and jumping online to criticise other for their enthusiasm about a new car coming down the pipe.

I wasn't sure what you owned anymore. I don't think I've ever seen you post anything positive about your car, MBZ or this collection of (mostly) great forum members.

My "wild assumptions" are only based on my observations. Can you offer better? Should we withhold opinions, based on observation, until we see the Magazine wienies test them head to head? If so, let's just shut down this forum until spring of 2008.

Last one out, turn off the lights.

Oh yeah, Waaaaaaaaa! (you can't see me throwing my tantrum right now)






PS: Lighten up a little. We are here to have some fun. And I used "doofus" as the term of endearment.

Leesi

Good luck for the IS-F. Japanese tend to over-rated their car performance on paper

ProjectC55

And the German's don't?

ProjectC55

What you are saying is still not conclusive enuff for folks in general! C'mon!

I hear what you're saying, but you know and I know that your conclusions still don't equate to an actual driving experience. How can I just look at a car and make a determination that it's no better than the next car? How? Does not make sense to me!


"Looks guilty,Acts guilty,he must have done the crime"! "Put him in jail"!
Terrible conclusion!

ProjectC55

They did very well their first yr (1990) especially based on Toyota's history of reliability. The LS400 was a tru winner for Lexus as was the LS250 at the time.

AR.Shah

Relax its just a Corolla with sideskirts and bigger alloys

ScottW911

You DO realize that I am admittedly biased, don't you? I have never cared for the motorized sofas that Lexus has built in the past (yes, I drove them).

If the glove fits, you must acquit.

I love MB and especially AMG. I am stating my opinions from my biased point of view. So sue me!

ProjectC55

Sounds like a big MB as well!

This was only said after the glove was personally tried on. You still gotta drive the car otherwise it's baseless biased!

You must be an M5board member as well. Related to Gustav!