Originally Posted by gsmps

M-DCT issues are only affecting a very small percentage of owners, and luckily I am not one of them.

Works flawlessly for me on the track or the street

Originally Posted by lexaltezza

I have been following the C63 from the beginning. From the spy pictures to the speculation on the power. I put my deposit down last October as this was supposed to be the first AMG car built from a computer model. It was supposed to be an M3 killer you could say. Now that it is arriving this month, after comparing it with the M3, I cannot see a reason to purchase the C63 over the M3.

The main advantages I see the M3 having over the C63 are:

-Option to purchase an extended leather dash, which in fox red looks amazing. (I think both cars interiors appear cheap, but this option really helps.)
-New 7 speed dual clutch transmission (0-60 times about the same as C63)
-Option for 825 watt 16 speaker audio system (I am an audiophile)
-Option for Electronic Damping Control for a more comfortable ride
-Better highway gas mileage
-Limited slip differential
-Launch Control
-Availability of many aftermarket parts

I really think Mercedes needs to "step up" the C63 if it wants to compete with its competition. I really had my eyes set on the C63, but the competition just has so much more. Anyone agree?

Originally Posted by blownS

It doesn't appear to be a small percentage by any means:

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=230686
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=223575
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=221666

This is not to say that ALL new cars don't have their own issues, but the M-DCT issue is very real.

Originally Posted by kip

I would add that the M3 has better seat comfort.

The fact is that if you put them head to head in a straight line the c63 will beat the m3 dct or not, in the twisties the M3 is better. Bmw reliability was also poor in my last cars and the service here should be renamed no service, as it is below any standards. The MB service has been good.

However, as you well stated the M3 is a relative bargain for its price...

EDIT: By the way how OLD is this thread???

Originally Posted by gsmps

Out of all the M3 owners in The US, what percentage even post on a forum?

The same applies to this forum, I have only been on here a week or 2 and can tell that only a tiny percentage of C63 owners are posting here

So I stand by my statement, just because some people on a forum are grumbling about something doesn't mean its affecting most owners.

It does suck that anyone is having problems with such a wonderful transmission though, but I know BMW will make it right

Originally Posted by gsmps

Alot depends on the driver, but stock M-DCT M3 vs. C63 it would be close but the M3 would win in the straights, and obviously when it got twisty.

I am not hating on The C63 since I am picking up a loaded C63 with PP tomorrow, I can really appreciate that they both have their own and very unique character

Add any of the ECU tunes out there and The M3 would be seeing the C63s rear end

Originally Posted by paulGT3

I just happened upon this thread via a search. Its funny how everyone is talking about the M3 being more money in April. Well here it is Oct and if you buy a M3 now its easy to get at invoice so a $68-$70k car is going to be around $60k and the AMG IS MSRP period. Right now in california anyway.

Originally Posted by 03basesedan

What data do you have that leads you to this conclusion? I hope you're not basing your opinion off of M5Board videos.

Originally Posted by gsmps

Alot depends on the driver, but stock M-DCT M3 vs. C63 it would be close but the M3 would win in the straights, and obviously when it got twisty.

I am not hating on The C63 since I am picking up a loaded C63 with PP tomorrow, I can really appreciate that they both have their own and very unique character

Add any of the ECU tunes out there and The M3 would be seeing the C63s rear end