evosport and Powerchip Stage 1 C63 ECU Tune and Development
10-10-2008, 01:32 PM
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As for now, I think it is great to have someone like MHP also pushing for the best! It gives customers a better overall product!
Add SAME CAR, and I think we would be in.
The way we have always done shootouts is same day, same dyno (or track) and same car. That eliminates all variables. You drive the car the same manner and path to ensure adaptations, then you run it with both tunes.
You really must use the same car, as you could have a significant difference from one car to the next, so you may be comparing apples to oranges.
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Add SAME CAR, and I think we would be in.
The way we have always done shootouts is same day, same dyno (or track) and same car. That eliminates all variables. You drive the car the same manner and path to ensure adaptations, then you run it with both tunes.
You really must use the same car, as you could have a significant difference from one car to the next, so you may be comparing apples to oranges.
Brad
Brad,
Let's do it!
Can you make it happen for MIR (11/15)?
Thanks!
Andy
10-10-2008, 03:55 PM
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Brad,
Thanks for the comprehensive answers. In particular, thanks for stepping up to the plate for some head-to-head testing with MHP. I'm sure everyone is aware of all the distrust over tuner-provided performance information for their own products, so being able to see how two products do on the same car on the same day is invaluable to a lot of potential buyers who are either making up their mind or trying to feel comfortable with spending the money. I look forward to the results and hope they get here sooner rather than later.
I do have one last question - your dyno chart refer to the BS ECU tune, but the chart indicates its for a C63. I'm assuming that means you merely took the tune from your BS test car and installed it "as is" on the C63 test car. Is that correct?
Hope you feel better soon!
Thanks for the comprehensive answers. In particular, thanks for stepping up to the plate for some head-to-head testing with MHP. I'm sure everyone is aware of all the distrust over tuner-provided performance information for their own products, so being able to see how two products do on the same car on the same day is invaluable to a lot of potential buyers who are either making up their mind or trying to feel comfortable with spending the money. I look forward to the results and hope they get here sooner rather than later.
I do have one last question - your dyno chart refer to the BS ECU tune, but the chart indicates its for a C63. I'm assuming that means you merely took the tune from your BS test car and installed it "as is" on the C63 test car. Is that correct?
Hope you feel better soon!
10-14-2008, 01:53 AM
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Simon, will the gains be the same for all 63'? I mean the amount of hp gains. or are the gains that high do to the c63 being detuned from the start? Great job
10-14-2008, 10:26 AM
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Obviously I can't state factually, but I am almost 100% certain the gains will vary from platform-to-platform, but the peaks should be roughly the same across all 63's (with exhaust providing the biggest variance).
10-14-2008, 01:13 PM
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The C63 is electronically detuned from the factory so if we say a stock 63 AMG (non-C) makes roughly 415-418 RWHP, everything above that is what we should see as gains, with variances being mods, octane level, rotational mass, etc.
10-19-2008, 12:23 AM
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When you guys builded the CLK63 Black Series (European Exotics June 08)you upgraded the rims (gorgeous rims) with 19x10 rears using 300x30?? Pirelly Corsa if I'm not mistaking, I can't recall all the numbers any way would the rims fit the C63? If so how can I get then? Thanks
10-20-2008, 10:37 AM
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ones too fast according to CHP!
When you guys builded the CLK63 Black Series (European Exotics June 08)you upgraded the rims (gorgeous rims) with 19x10 rears using 300x30?? Pirelly Corsa if I'm not mistaking, I can't recall all the numbers any way would the rims fit the C63? If so how can I get then? Thanks
Yep. Please contact our sales team and they can get you the details.
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10-20-2008, 01:07 PM
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When you guys builded the CLK63 Black Series (European Exotics June 08)you upgraded the rims (gorgeous rims) with 19x10 rears using 300x30?? Pirelly Corsa if I'm not mistaking, I can't recall all the numbers any way would the rims fit the C63? If so how can I get then? Thanks
10-20-2008, 07:26 PM
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CLK 500(Gone), C63 FTW!
10-24-2008, 03:44 PM
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I was just informed by a rep from green filters USA that they do not have a replacement filter available for the C63 as of yet. Does anyone have a suggestion for another brand?
10-24-2008, 04:24 PM
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10-24-2008, 04:42 PM
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10-27-2008, 12:16 PM
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ones too fast according to CHP!
However we have tested all available filters for this car, and the only filters that are available today that make ANY gain over stock are the BMC, which we stock.
We do not use or recommend K&N on any car.
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10-27-2008, 11:13 PM
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Thank's
11-03-2008, 07:46 PM
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ones too fast according to CHP!
Upon further examiniation, it was found that when K&N makes their filters, they FOLD the pleats as opposed to round them. In fact, this was why a lead engineer left K&N and started AFE - just to have ROUNDED edges. When you fold them, they will not filter to the same level any longer.
It is for this reason that the only pleated gauze filters that we use are BMC, Green or AFE.
Just because you have not had a problem does not mean it is not a potential problem, remember that.
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11-03-2008, 10:35 PM
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I could see were a rounded as opposed to a folded edge could be a better way to go. I have used some AFE stuff and would say it is of good quality with no negative drawbacks.
