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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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MY ECU has been recieved for MHP for tuning - i got those shaky christmas legs - i am very excited - 8/10 shift firmness...

mthis what do you get for shift firmness?
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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hey stefario, you have to take me for a boot when you get it back.
What shipping method did you use?
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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I used UPS - i was out of the office and it turned into a little of a gong show.

apparently if you declare any value over 200$ for insurance of electronic goods you have to fill out a FCC form.

I ended up sending warrenty service with 200 dec value - got therein 12 hours.

i wont give you a ride but ill let you try and keep up!
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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how much did the shipping with insurance run ya?

id like to see how we would do against each other after u get the ecu back!
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by stefario
I used UPS - i was out of the office and it turned into a little of a gong show.

apparently if you declare any value over 200$ for insurance of electronic goods you have to fill out a FCC form.

I ended up sending warrenty service with 200 dec value - got therein 12 hours.

i wont give you a ride but ill let you try and keep up!
See....Not a big deal...Can't wait to hear your review on the tune.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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right - its not a big deal when you have the information...phoning UPS and saying you have a mercedes ECU to send to a tuner in the US is not gonna get you anywhere but on the wrong side of a bottle of rye.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by stefario
I used UPS - i was out of the office and it turned into a little of a gong show.

apparently if you declare any value over 200$ for insurance of electronic goods you have to fill out a FCC form.

I ended up sending warrenty service with 200 dec value - got therein 12 hours.

i wont give you a ride but ill let you try and keep up!
I will keep those things in mind. Thanks
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 01:22 AM
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MY ECU has been recieved for MHP for tuning - i got those shaky christmas legs - i am very excited - 8/10 shift firmness...

mthis what do you get for shift firmness?
8/10 on mine listen to andy what he tells you to do after you get it, it works. i have 160 miles on my tune now MY CAR IS IN BEASTMODE. its so beast mode that i order a pair on micky toms for it. and the worst thing rite now. ITS RAINING and i cant drive it im mad.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 01:41 AM
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Stefario and mthis,

when you get a chance can you guys described 8/10 shift firmness...

My c63 will be a DD, so I just want to know if its neck jarring, is it the same shift feeling between manual and sport mode, do you feel the shifts in your body or are they just quicker?

Thanks for the feedback
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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and the worst thing rite now. ITS RAINING and i cant drive it im mad.

How come? Too much torque and a slight tip-in of the throttle sends the tires slipping and spinning?
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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How come? Too much torque and a slight tip-in of the throttle sends the tires slipping and spinning?
im all over the road. tap on gas its goes side ways, traction on kicks in right away traction sport kicks in right away and traction off you go sideways
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Stefario and mthis,

when you get a chance can you guys described 8/10 shift firmness...

My c63 will be a DD, so I just want to know if its neck jarring, is it the same shift feeling between manual and sport mode, do you feel the shifts in your body or are they just quicker?

Thanks for the feedback
i would love to tell you but my tune is not broken in 100%. in manual when shifting in redline it bangs into gear in sport it does the samething now just breaking in all the other gears lol its great i just wish it wont rain everyday here in ny and when it does not rain im working thats my luck.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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im all over the road. tap on gas its goes side ways, traction on kicks in right away traction sport kicks in right away and traction off you go sideways
So with traction on, it doesn't go sideways in the rain if you slowly depress the gas pedal? Good thing it doesn't rain much here in Vegas. The reason I ask, it that I want to replace my wife's C320 with a C63 and tune it. It will be her DD and my weekend toy.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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So with traction on, it doesn't go sideways in the rain if you slowly depress the gas pedal? Good thing it doesn't rain much here in Vegas. The reason I ask, it that I want to replace my wife's C320 with a C63 and tune it. It will be her DD and my weekend toy.
no traction on you not going anywher.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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i would love to tell you but my tune is not broken in 100%. in manual when shifting in redline it bangs into gear in sport it does the samething now just breaking in all the other gears lol its great i just wish it wont rain everyday here in ny and when it does not rain im working thats my luck.
What do you mean that it it not 100% broken in, i didnt realize that a ecu/tcu flash had to be broken in, would you be able to elaborate, thanks alot.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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What do you mean that it it not 100% broken in, i didnt realize that a ecu/tcu flash had to be broken in, would you be able to elaborate, thanks alot.
We tell all our cusotmers the same thing as far as break-in procedure for their ECU/TCUs after tuning. 200 hard miles, the first 30-40 in manual mode, then switch to sport and hammer out another 160-170 miles. This initial period is critical to get the most performance out of your tuned ECU/TCUs.

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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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I got my Mhp tune about 500 miles ago its all that it's said to be and more I took andys advise off the bat and put the nitro dr's on, my shifts are set at 8/10 when it shifts at wot in m or s mode "not sure what the c
Mode was put there for" hits hard but nice my car is a daily driver and I think it's perfect for that. It handles fine in the rain as long as you take it easy, as for the dry the car handles well u still need to do rolling starts or feather it out of the hole... Any one in long island feel free to contact me to see what the car does...
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MHP
We tell all our cusotmers the same thing as far as break-in procedure for their ECU/TCUs after tuning. 200 hard miles, the first 30-40 in manual mode, then switch to sport and hammer out another 160-170 miles. This initial period is critical to get the most performance out of your tuned ECU/TCUs.

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Andy do you mind explaining how you tune the ECU and TCU that it requires a break in procedure? Is it not a software related upgrade?
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 01:41 AM
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Andy do you mind explaining how you tune the ECU and TCU that it requires a break in procedure? Is it not a software related upgrade?
i think the timing has to adjust, as well as the tcu, after so many miles it get faster and faster.

i get 100% andy is saying i have a couple of friend that have audis and vw and when they tuned ther cars, after they tunes them the more they drove the car the more faster it got. so it make some sence what his trying to say.
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i think the timing has to adjust, as well as the tcu, after so many miles it get faster and faster.

i get 100% andy is saying i have a couple of friend that have audis and vw and when they tuned ther cars, after they tunes them the more they drove the car the more faster it got. so it make some sence what his trying to say.
I still don't understand how that works from a technical perspective..
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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Me Neither - maybe it has something to do with a complete reset or purge of any cached data and then the harder you drive it the more it learns that style and hard codes it in - i am not a technical person.......
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Long story short, the controllers (especially when doing TCU as well as ECU) need to learn. We eliminate 80%+ of the adaptive learning but certain things (fuel trims, etc) still need to be set. Which is again why we stress that in order to achieve max performance with our tuning the first 200 miles MUST be hard.

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Originally Posted by MHP
Long story short, the controllers (especially when doing TCU as well as ECU) need to learn. We eliminate 80%+ of the adaptive learning but certain things (fuel trims, etc) still need to be set. Which is again why we stress that in order to achieve max performance with our tuning the first 200 miles MUST be hard.

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So your saying fill it up every day or 150 miles, what ever comes first.
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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So your saying fill it up every day or 150 miles, what ever comes first.
LOL, exactly.
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We tell all our cusotmers the same thing as far as break-in procedure for their ECU/TCUs after tuning. 200 hard miles, the first 30-40 in manual mode, then switch to sport and hammer out another 160-170 miles. This initial period is critical to get the most performance out of your tuned ECU/TCUs.

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WOAH...don't know if my license could survive that!
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