ericpd

I don't know. I can just say that most of my posts are over on the W203 board. I started coming here looking to you guys to give up the inside stuff on the C63,... so I'd know what to talking about and what to look for when I walked onto the dealership showroom floor. Then it slowly changed into 'which one should I get',... morphing further into 'please talk me out of the Caddy', then finally into defending myself as to not being either crazy or a selling. Which neither of which I consider myself.

Nah man,... I ain't lookin' for nuttin' to happen. Just chewing da rag on the state of things with our cars and between our cars with other enthusiasts. Nothin' beyond that. Why? What are you lookin' to happen. I mean, what is it that could happen. Not sure I get your Q! But if you're trying to suggest that I registered for the sole purpose of poking between the bones of your collective rib cage with a sharp dagger,.... well nothing could be further from the truth. In addition to scrutinizing my post count,.... check my 'membership date'. Looks like I joined well over a year before you, during a time when most of us had no clue what the W204 would even look like. Hell, I'm closer to my 3rd anniversary than I am to my 2nd. Only 300 posts in 2 plus years, hell if anything, that's confirmation that I don't come with an agenda for trolling,... which is what I'm beginning to feel is the point your comment was trying to establish. If trolling was my mission, I would have amassed thousands of posts by this time,... prolly with a few bans to my name. And as for my post count,... don't know about your screen, but my screen shows 320. Still not a lot compared to some of our more senior members.

Not tryin' to sell anything,... just fellowshipping!

Razorecko

cts-v. 10.32@136mph.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQj-K52DlHA

c32used

I have to admit I always liked the Caddy but somehow the C63 caught me more but with prices tanking I'd say the Caddy looks a hell more attractive...and not to forget the lower costs to maintain and mod

retardedmunk

This is a no brainer...a C class is the bottom line for Benz...I wouldnt buy one unless the car was $25k maybe...they are already high 30's at auctions.....it is a freaking rental car...everything about the car is cheap...they are going to be building the C class in Alabama in 2 years...lol........but a CTS is a bargain for under $50k now...better build...more options..and more power...and this is opinion is coming from a guy who drives 65's regularly....65's are the best Benz offers...period...s class or cl class...a 65 is the king---but the cts is the prince

SebringSilver

God there's a lot of testosterone on this thread.

kevinpuri

C-Klasse going to be built in Alabama in 2 years time!??! I thought Benz only built there SUV's (except for the G Wagon) and R in 'bama?

Is this ture?

callmiro

That's funny that you mentioned the C Class as a rental car because i just came back from NY and had a CTS as a rental car

http://www.budget.com/budgetWeb/html...uaranteed.html

What a piece of crap...the doors sounded like they were the thickness of a beer can everytime you closed it, and anyone that accepts a Cobalt interior in a "Cadillac" gets what's coming to them...and the exhaust note was reminiscent and heart-pounding as a '88 Bonneville SSE.....

I wonder how much that $50K CTS will be at auction next spring when Budget Rental Car drops it's CTS Fleet on the auction block at the same time...hmmmm

Have fun trading it in next year for a $12k credit

bushburninc63

i'm surprised this thread hasn't got moved yet or closed.

ericpd

WOW! I missed that one Razor. I think Hennessey has seen the end of his influence. Between the Doctor and W4W, the V is getting stronger and stronger,... and still holding on to it's reliability.

Just tell me Burning Bush, why on earth would someone want to close this thread? For AMG fans like myself, this thread is like waking up to freshly brewed coffee after a deep sleep. Smells so good,... and does wonders for shaking out the cobwebs making straight thinking much easier.

¡Que el mejor coche gana!

transferred

on nos thereby irrelevant.

CTS V is a nice ride though and a big step fwd for GM...

-Rob

sy1616

You'll regret the CTS-V, it's has little in terms of quality and passion. I just bought an ML350 after trading in my SRT8 Jeep. What a difference, the Jeep is Junk! I washed and detailed the ML and took note of each and every detail of the ML and how well built it is. The door seals, the hinges, the quality of the paint, the materials used inside and out, the list goes on and on and makes my pride and passion of ownership what it is...perfect. Buy the AMG and know you have a wickedly fast car with quality and heritage. I know it's a weak comparison but you get the point.

ericpd

transferred is correct. If that 10 run was with a squirt of nos, then it's a little off to the left. However,... bring your best non-nos C63 and put it up against Caddy's best non-nos V, and the story ends the same way with the V way out in front. And we're just talkin' straight line where the C63 does it's best. Add some bends and twists, and God forbid, a few bends where the road drops out from underneath of you and it's not even a contest,... the V takes it hands down. But wait,... now if you go all the way, say like to DTM specs, the V wouldn't stand a chance. The V's best option in such an environment would be to dail 911 as fast as it can.

¡Que el mejor coche gana!

ericpd

Regret isn't a word I've even thought about during my time in the V. And as far as passion, well the V is the bench mark when 'passion' is the only parameter. No other 4 door sedan under 90k generates as much passion as the V,... none gets a louder "WOW" out of you after standing on the long skinny pedal closet to the driveshaft hump. None elicits a louder "DAMN" when going through the twisties at speed with little to no passion killing understeer, but with plenty of passion generating pedal steering (too much and it's called tail happy oversteer, just the right amount and it's called pedal steering). Now the jury is still out in terms of quality,... but what is obvious is the fact that the historical relationship between 'Cadillac' and 'quality' no longer exists. Like you, I went over my V with very discerning eyes the first couple days of ownership. And having the benefit of AMG offerings, I was able to reference objectively the build quality of the V. It's definitely on par with the build quality of the C Class cars. In some areas,... even better.

I have Black Raven, which is pretty much plain metallic black. However, the application is flawless and the texture is as deep as can be expected for such a plain paint option. However, have you seen Caddy's White Diamond Tri-coat paint option? Or their Thunder Gray ChromaFlair option? MB's Metallic Obsidian Black falls somewhere in between Caddy's Raven Black and their Tri-Coat and ChromaFlair paint options. My C32 is Obsidian Black BTW, so I've made the comparison in my driveway.

As far as interior appointment and touch-n-feel,... I gotta give it to the V. We all already know about ride comfort and handling,... don't we? <Close your eyes and imagine hearing Louis Black saying that last sentence.>

¡Que el mejor coche gana!

Leon Bacon

I went through the same drill to include M3s. Came down to the deal, MB took $11K of sticker (this was in August, probably peak if auto industries misery). Cad and BMW couldn't or wouldn't match the numbers. Now I am convinced I made the right choice. Really can't go wrong. If you do go with the CTS, make sure they throw in the free gold chain and white patent leather shoes...

SebringSilver

Why would they give the buyer what he's sure to have already??

ericpd

Ah man, it ain't that bad. Honest! Used to be,... but not anymore. But you're right, I bought my V around the same period (April in my case), and MB was doing some serious discounting. I was lucky though,... my dealer sold both MB's and Caddy's off of the same lot. So I just stepped back and let the two Sales Mangers have at it,... the Caddy guy's numbers won out.

Look,... no matter which one of these two cars you walk away with, you're gonna have a fine high performance prestigious coche! One does some stuff better than the other, while the other does other stuff better than the one! Just depends on what stuff you wanna get done!

¡Que el mejor coche gana!

gnxs

That car that went 10.32 also made several non-N2O runs the same day, with the best pass a 10.81.

ericpd

Be sure to watch SPEED CHANNEL tonight @ 9:30 I believe. They're doing the CTS-V Challenge. You hard core Benz Fans might rather see a soap opera though, as MB has no dog in the fight. But for those of you who missed the 'brand *****' bus,... might be an interesting watch. Hope it's done better than all the YouTube vids floating around.

drtowind

You paid a little over 58K - did that include the $2600 gas guzzler tax?

ericpd

It included everything except tax & tags. But those days are over. You aín't gonna find a well equipped or loaded V for less than 64k today! Givie up the Recaro seats and you save around 3.5k.

drtowind

Thanks for the reply. They are currently offering either a $6000 cash discount or $1000 off and 0% financing for 72 months.

Boost Gomez

Gotta have the Recaros though.

ericpd

Hey Leon,... got any family ties to Catonsville?