TorontoC63

Downtown Toronto, 2012 c63 sedan blk/blk premium package.

torontomansions

I filled up my c63 with 93 octane for the first time in almost three years of owning my car and the drive is SIGNIFICANTLY smoother. Like me I'm sure all C63 owners have given up on worrying about gas prices, so paying a bit more for "super premium" is no biggy! Its worth spending extra at the pump to enjoy the AMG rumble! I'm usually a BMW fan but this car has made me an avid benz enthusiast. The build quality is much better than all my BMW.

FBTO

Are there any white sedans with the p31(apx) package here in Ontario? I have seen three in the last two weeks! Strange!

VaclavSV

GTA. 2012 Sedan. Obsidian Black. APX.

themailman34

2010 p31 Mississauga

reciprocity

Burlington,

2009 Black on Black w/Performance package

Solarman2005

C32 and live in Cambridge Ontario

crazy1469

2010 C63 maple ontario

jtuds

A lot of you guys are in the GTA so I'm wondering what you may know about a dealership called The Collection (The Collection of Fine Cars)

they have this one in stock and I might go look at it

http://usedcars.collectionfinecars.c...spx?aid=168269

I do think it is a bit overpriced though. If I buy this one, or another of the few for sale in the GTA, I'll join this thread more officially.

Keithb

Rural Ottawa - 2009 C63 - Palladium Silver

SL_84

Uptown GTA, 2012 C63 coupe, Black/Black Premium

Rsquad911

GTA 2012 Palladium Silver C63 APX and Premium Package

crazy1469

I have never heard anything bad about them, but on the same not never heard anything good ither...they are a used car lot, and my self working as a tech for many years and doing work for used car lots know that the do the min required work to the vehicles to just pass safety....and if you read the add carefully u can see that they clearly know nothing about the product the are selling...."6.3L 451 HP V8 POWERPLANT......AMG PERFORMANCE PKG" the car comes stock with 451hp, the performance pkg comes with 487 hp, bigger 2 piece brakes, lsd and stiffer suspention.
with that said if the car came from mb canada it was from the auction, so they did not star certify it....so at 30k+ u will most likely need brakes, and rear tires for sure, so right there you are looking at min $2000+...

happy shopping and do your homework and buy from a reputable dealer, your not buying just any car, its an AMG one of the finest german engeneering

AMGTECH

anyone want to set up a GTA AMG meet...

we could start planning now, and set a date for warmer weather

VaclavSV

I love this idea! Get something going.

crazy1469

that's a great idea, also the guys at PUREMB have their annual BBQ on aug 26 at the eglinton and leslei prk... and also in woodbrige at hwy 7 and weston every thursday the have a car meet wherer they have ferrari's lambos, mercede's all the nice rides

W///AMG

GTA 2010 C63 Obsidian Black

Patrick B

Actually, that's wrong. In 2009, the AMG Performance Pack was the alcantara interior, stiffer suspension, LSD and that's about it. Same stock motor as the non AMG Perf Pack (P30 was the MB option code). The original P30 option listed "compound brakes" as part of it, but I'm not sure those were the two-piece rotors or not.

It was only in 2010 with the AMG Development pack (which dropped any suspension upgrades) that HP was upped to 481, from 451. And the two piece rotors (along with a carbon-fibre trunk-lip) were also part of the package (option code P31).

And brakes and rear tires for $2,000??? Only if you're getting the work done at a Mercedes dealership. You can get a full set of pads (all four corners) for about $120 (www.brakeperformance.com), and even the two-piece rotors should be no more than $300 per axle.

In fact, a quote from Tirerack, front rotors for the 2009 with P30 (Perf Pack) are $133 each. Rear rotors are $86 each. You'd MAYBE spend $260-270 each for rear tires. Also with only 30K on the odometer, I'm not sure you'd need new rotors for the car either, and probably just pads.

On a proper lift it shouldn't take any more than 2 hours to swap all four rotors and pads; a good mechanic should be able to do it in less than one hour. Heck, if you have a garage and some jack-stands, you should be able to do it at home on your own in less than two hours (depending on how cramped your garage is).

Of course, if you took it to Mercedes, they would charge you the "book" rate, so it's easy enough to see how you'd get to $2,000 then. But just because it has a three-pointed star on the hood doesn't mean you need to have them conduct the most basic of services.

Besides, $49,900 at The Collection is just their asking price; you can always offer them less, particularly IF the car needs new rubber and brakes.

Tires and brakes are maintenance items; those don't concern me much when I'm looking at used vehicles. I'm far, far more concerned with items that are hidden from plain view (engine issues, or hidden body / structural damage for example) that aren't part of routine maintenance.



Patrick

AMGTECH

PureMB BBQ's are nothing like what the MBF BBQ's were back in the day..

crazy1469

just went this website and the front rotors call for $310 each for the front...and your doing brakes on an AMG not a chevy you dont wanna go cheap on parts that will squeek and dusty....but its your choice i think that if you can afford a $50.000 car you can afford to buy quality parts for it

[QUOTE=Patrick B;5051074]

And brakes and rear tires for $2,000??? Only if you're getting the work done at a Mercedes dealership. You can get a full set of pads (all four corners) for about $120 (www.brakeperformance.com), and even the two-piece rotors should be no more than $300 per axle.

Patrick B

Actually, it's $310 for BOTH front rotors, not just one.

There is no rocket science here guys; brake rotors have two very basic, simple jobs. The primary job is to convert kinetic energy into thermal energy, and secondary job is to dissipate that thermal energy as efficiently and quickly as possible.

The only differences from one brake rotor to another is in it's ability to store thermal energy (this is a function of mass....the larger the rotor, the more energy it can store, assuming the material is the same....iron, in this case). And it's ability to dissipate that energy is dependent upon the rotor design (vanes, cross-drilled, slotted, etc).

Sure, there are some price variations between a one piece rotor and a two piece rotor, but there are essentially zero performance differences between them (in theory two-piece rotors are better able to keep heat in the rotor, and not in the centre hub, thus preventing the rotor from transferring heat into the hub and bearings for the upright itself). And two-piece rotors can be lighter, though there is only so much weight one would want to remove from your rotor assembly, since mass is directly related to it's performance (not counting ceramic rotors, since that's a whole different price bracket).

As for squeaks and dust....this is a function of pads and pad material, not rotors. Rotors are almost exclusively made of identical material (iron), regardless of brand.

However, don't be fooled by thinking that more expensive pads means a superior product. Plenty of expensive things in life are inferior in performance to a cheaper product.

And even in pad design / material there is no panacea. Typically you get material that is good at absorbing heat in high quantities, but perform poorly when cool (pads I had on my racecar were like this). Or pads that perform well in a Toronto winter, but can fade on a track day. Or pads that dust like mad, ruining wheels, but have great stopping power.

You can find good balances, and given the choice, I'd rather spend more on pads, and less on rotors. The pads will make a significantly bigger difference than rotors.

Either way, unless you're taking your C63 to the track, rotors should last WELL beyond 32,000 km. Pads are more dependent on driving style....but rotors themselves should be more durable than that.

And trust me....Mercedes Benz sources their pads and rotors from someone else, and then charges an AMG premium for them. They will be chemically and functionally the equivalent of some other brand (whichever company makes them for MB).

More expensive doesn't mean better....it just means more expensive.

And if you're going to drive a $50K car, or a $75K car, or a $100K car....don't you owe it to yourself to know the difference? And maybe even how to change pads and rotors yourself?




Patrick

crazy1469

patrick all that i am trying to say here and you seem to know what you are talking about is just buyer be aware....if that car was sold from mb canada and star cert it would take all new oem parts...and granted that more expencive doesn't mean better, but u usually get what u pay for

cchu

Anyone have a C63 for sale or coming off lease in the GTA area? i'm looking to step into one. PM meee !

andrew c230k

I was going to buy this car before they got a chance too... I can tell you they overpaid for it but its got the P30 package and carbon trim...

They have only had it for about a month the week after I bought a 2008 C63 same color

BTW all you guys with C63's should check out Puremb its a local mercedes car club in toronto area

andrew c230k

I been around since back in MBCanada, MBfanatics and now PureMB and honestly the others cant touch this...
http://youtu.be/8E3Y9lXm71c

This year will be the best yet... awesome cars better video footage etc!