paizesb

My Cousin and I got a bee in our bonnets arguing whose car is faster whose car looks better so we settled the debate last night once and for all. We did four runs, stop light till stop light.(Dont worry it was 3 am and nobody in sight). The c63 jumped the z4m on all occasions. I thought we would get in front of me on his 1st & 2nd gear but not the case. 1st was neck and neck 2nd I just put my nose in front after that is was like "unleash the fury" I pulled at least 4 car lenghts on him. This car has got ***** made of steel . My cousin kept on saying my car has been tuned and it hasnt its bone stock. He feels sick it makes me proud to be part of the ///AMG family.

derrick_lui

C63 451HP
M Coupe 333HP

4 Car lengths ? I dont see anything unusual about that =D

2K6E55

AMG POWAR

Dr_jitsu

Happy Thanksgiving

nonsns3

One wins in a straightline. The other takes over in the twisties.

EuroB6

Is your cousin retarded or something? The C63 will kill it each time, and if you did a first gear rolling start, you wouldve pulled harder and earlier.

SebringSilver

So which one's your cousin?



Just kidding.

paizesb

he is the one in middle

Palladin

A bee in your bonnets? Are you guys 80 years old or what? I didn't know the Amish were allowed to drive cars, let alone AMGs. Nice upgrade over the horsedrawn buggy though, right. Congrats. Now get back to work on that fireplace.

MikeS54

I had a MZ4 and compared to C63 the power is nite and day. MZ4 is only slightly faster than a 335. I never had a chance to race a MZ4 yet but during my race against my friend's stock 335 I was pulling on him while changing gear at 4.5 rpm..... and he was flooring it lol.

However the cornering ability of the two cars is also nite and day, opposite result from the straightline speed lol.

SebringSilver

If you look at C/D's results over the past few years for their annual Lightning Lap around VIR, you can see that even the Z4 M doesn't come close to the performance of the C63 over the 4.2-mile circuit that includes quite a number of intricate corners.

See below:

EuroB6

to me the C63 is a complete package. In all honesty, how many people really track their cars? I know a handful of people do, but the majority uses it for a daily driver or weekend car. During this time of driving, you are not racing around corners or twisties. You drive more straight line than anything. The C63 is more than capable around the track too. AMG really nailed it with this little car.

chief63

BMW fan boys always say the M3 will kill a C63 on the track and that the C63 is only good in a straight line.

The M3 with better tires in the rear (and much wider at 305) managed to beat the C63 by 0.9 seconds on a 3min+ lap.

0.9 seconds! I Live in Canada and the cost of the M3 here is 72k while the C63 is 63K. Why would I choose an M3? Just changing to a better tire setup will make the C63 beat the M3 on a track for almost 10 grand less, plus it's faster in straight lines! Saying a C63 just can't handle the M3 on the track is BS.

Cya

MikeS54

Honestly i ve seen this a while ago

However i am not too found of the C.D testing result. Its accuracy is highly questionable.

911 turbo slower than m3 ..... we all know thats just not true.

To be honest from the result i have seen on other courses either nurburgring,tg times, etc... overall lap time between C63 and MZ4 is very similiar. Like i said C63 has a load of advantage on the straight while MZ4 has a big advantage in the corner.

All i can tell you is if you ve driven both you will notice immediately the amount of handling difference between the two.

transferred

M3s come with 265s not 305s. Big difference. It's AMGs fault they under tire their cars. Changing tires, changing suspension...hell why not just use of Veyron to compare it to as it has four wheels right? And chucking around the "fanboy" term reveals you to be one yourself. The M3 and c63 both have their advantages and disadvantages, just get over it and enjoy your car.

as regards "Palladin"--being so offended by the term "bee in our bonnets" is plain

-Rob

MikeS54

In fact a decent equiped M3 sedan would go for mid 80k and 90 if you opt for the dct. While C63 with premium and pp will only cause you just over 70k .... huge difference in price up here.

bhamg

I have an '06 Z4 M Coupe...I find the difference in straight-line speed in the C63's favor is much greater than the advantage in cornering capability that the MZ4 enjoys. IMHO the C63 is a better package overall but these are two very different cars...it really depends on what you are looking for.

wankeldude

with proper tires, the C63 is as fast as a 911 GT3 around most tracks.
Let the flaming begin.

yooker

Z99

Allow me to add some fuel to the fire. With the set up below, I have been faster then a few GT3s around Beaver Run race track. Not a high horsepower track either.

K2
BMC filters
H&R Coilovers
Dunlops Direzzas 235 front, 265 back
Quaife LSD

JAY55

Nice set up

peet

As my last car before the C63 was an M coupe I call BS. The M Coupe is a fantastic curve carver, it's absolute crap in a straight line. There just isn't anything in the engine room. Don't get me wrong, it was the best handling car ever and I loved every second of ownership, but it's not at all in the 63's class. Now if that car had a twin screw setup on top of the M motor - maybe, but filters and baubles - no way.

As for better looking? meh - that's like asking who's hotter when you're looking through the Victoria Secret catalog - the simple answer BOTH.

Best thing about the M coupe? No one else has one in your geographic region. I had mine on a 30 month lease and in that time saw only one other one - we were traveling head on in a 2 lane undivided road, both slowed down, giggled like school girls and waved. Obviously he never saw one either!

SebringSilver

Good post.

Nice story to boot.

chief63

I'm saying the CD M3 had 305s I didn't talk about suspension, just tire size.

If you can't read here is what I wrote:

"fan boys always say the M3 will kill a C63 on the track"

Well here are some numbers that prove that it's not killing it at all. M3 has a slight advantage on the track at best for almost 10K more here and slower speeds on pretty much any daily driver circumstances.

peet

chief63: though he is comparing to an MZ4 - a VERY different car. Remember the motor is from the old E46 era engine, and the car weighs nearly nada. From experience, not numbers, the MZ4 will kill a C63 on a track if both are in stock form. Maybe, maybe, if the driver of the 63 has massive experience he'll be able to rein in the torque, but all the slip and slide will cost dearly.