New Review And C63 Finishes Last
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I really dont see what people see in that RS5, it looks exactly the same as the current S5 in the states IMHO, what's so different apart from the engine?
Also every review they do with the C63 is perfect most of the time it comes out on top. Now you have ONE review where it comes out last and everybody is tense lol... Our car is just awesome and both AUDI and BMW owners can't touch it
Also every review they do with the C63 is perfect most of the time it comes out on top. Now you have ONE review where it comes out last and everybody is tense lol... Our car is just awesome and both AUDI and BMW owners can't touch it
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2010 C63
I wonder what difference having ESP "on" has. I haven't driven the other cars, but the C63's ESP is very intrusive at the limit, and would significantly slow the car in the slalom and track events.
Not sure if the other cars' ESP would have as much of an impact.
Not sure if the other cars' ESP would have as much of an impact.
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The differences between the RS5 and S5 are just as pronounced as the differences between a C63 and a base C-class.
RS5 Offerings:
Engine (BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!)
• High-revving, normally aspirated V8 displacing 4,163 cc
• The crankcase is a bedplate construction. The lower bearing bridges for the crankshaft are integrated into a common frame for maximum rigidity and optimal vibration behavior. The cast iron bearing bridges reduce the thermal expansion of the crankcase and thus keep the play at the main bearings of the crankshaft within tight limits.
• Recuperation system and additional efficiency technologies standard
Drivetrain
• Seven-speed S tronic dual-clutch transmission
• New quattro technology with (self-locking) crown-gear center differential and torque vectoring
• Sport differential for variable power distribution between rear wheels
Chassis
• Audi drive select driving dynamics system, optional dynamic steering
• High-performance brakes, with carbon fiber-ceramic discs available
• ESP stabilization program with Sport mode, can be deactivated
• Sport suspension plus, with Dynamic Ride Control variable damping
Body
• Coupe design with distinctive sporty accents
• Xenon plus headlights with LED daytime running lights and LED taillights
• Flared wheel wells front and rear, side extensions. The underbody of the RS 5 Coupé is largely lined with plastic cladding. It integrates NACA air vents and airfoils for the brakes, the seven-speed S tronic and center differential. At highway speeds, the aerodynamic characteristics of the high-performance coupe generate downforce to further enhance stability. The Audi RS 5 Coupé is 4,649 millimeters long, 1,860 millimeters wide and 1,366 millimeters high (15.25 x 6.1 x 4.48 ft), making it 24 millimeters (0.94 in) longer and 6 millimeters (0.24 in) wider than the A5. It is 6 millimeters (0.24 in) lower in height. Its body boasts high rigidity at low weight; the front fenders are made of aluminum. A strut brace further reinforces the front end.Interior and controls
Interior
• Exclusive interior with carbon inlays
• Power-adjustable sport seats; bucket seats with folding backrests and climate-controlled comfort seats
• Specially designed instruments with lap timer and oil temperature gauge
• Optional hard drive navigation system with Bang & Olufsen sound system
• Advanced driver assistance systems available
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OMG...guess Yokohama are now OEM for C63. Run for the hills. See here
http://www2.yokohama-online.com/gb/t...ucts.php?g=404
C63 (W204)
235/35ZR19 XL Advan Sport (V103S MO) F
255/30ZR19 XL Advan Sport (V103S MO) R
Wow, as much as I hated the P-zeros, I am glad I am on my last OEM pair before moving to PS2. Bet we will see a whole lot of new threads in the C63 board complaining about the Yokos they got OEM
http://www2.yokohama-online.com/gb/t...ucts.php?g=404
C63 (W204)
235/35ZR19 XL Advan Sport (V103S MO) F
255/30ZR19 XL Advan Sport (V103S MO) R
Wow, as much as I hated the P-zeros, I am glad I am on my last OEM pair before moving to PS2. Bet we will see a whole lot of new threads in the C63 board complaining about the Yokos they got OEM
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http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/sh...mber=1&lang=en
70k Euro = $89,600 but that included 19% VAT. If you exported car from EU the car would be VAT exempt = $71,600
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I'm not so sure that means they are going to be the only C63 OEM tires and in all markets. That Yoko website also says they also come on the 997 C4, but I haven't seen a new 997 C4 with them here in the US. They usually come in the US with Potenzas or PS2s. Maybe Yokos are available in other markets.
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WTF? Why do they keep comparing a 4-door performance car like the C63 to coupes? They should take an M3 limo.
I know the C63 was my first choice, it still is, and would be my first choice in a year's time. The RS5 is 2secs slower to 200km/h although it's a quattro.
I would rank it this way:
1) C63
2) M3
3) Rs5
4) Alpina
I know the C63 was my first choice, it still is, and would be my first choice in a year's time. The RS5 is 2secs slower to 200km/h although it's a quattro.
I would rank it this way:
1) C63
2) M3
3) Rs5
4) Alpina
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This probably more accurate comparison test. http://www.sportauto-online.de/vergl...t-1037082.html
BMW still cam ahead on overall rating but the speed tests seem more accurate for non-PP related cars. I also noticed that M3s come stock with 265 in rear whereas C63 come with 255s as we know.
BMW still cam ahead on overall rating but the speed tests seem more accurate for non-PP related cars. I also noticed that M3s come stock with 265 in rear whereas C63 come with 255s as we know.
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Is it just me or does it only have one fog light in the lower right?
In any event, it looks killer and I have always wanted one since I saw the first pictures and with the release of the S5 itself, I knew it was going to look menacing. Somehow it doesn't even have that much fender flare but the body and contours make it look thick and beefy. I really like the concave wheels and huge front vent.
In any event, it looks killer and I have always wanted one since I saw the first pictures and with the release of the S5 itself, I knew it was going to look menacing. Somehow it doesn't even have that much fender flare but the body and contours make it look thick and beefy. I really like the concave wheels and huge front vent.
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While I appreciate your passion for Mercedes you need to stop drinking their Kool-Aid. It's okay to admire other cars besides the one you own.
The differences between the RS5 and S5 are just as pronounced as the differences between a C63 and a base C-class.
RS5 Offerings:
Engine (BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!)
• High-revving, normally aspirated V8 displacing 4,163 cc
• The crankcase is a bedplate construction. The lower bearing bridges for the crankshaft are integrated into a common frame for maximum rigidity and optimal vibration behavior. The cast iron bearing bridges reduce the thermal expansion of the crankcase and thus keep the play at the main bearings of the crankshaft within tight limits.
• Recuperation system and additional efficiency technologies standard
Drivetrain
• Seven-speed S tronic dual-clutch transmission
• New quattro technology with (self-locking) crown-gear center differential and torque vectoring
• Sport differential for variable power distribution between rear wheels
Chassis
• Audi drive select driving dynamics system, optional dynamic steering
• High-performance brakes, with carbon fiber-ceramic discs available
• ESP stabilization program with Sport mode, can be deactivated
• Sport suspension plus, with Dynamic Ride Control variable damping
Body
• Coupe design with distinctive sporty accents
• Xenon plus headlights with LED daytime running lights and LED taillights
• Flared wheel wells front and rear, side extensions. The underbody of the RS 5 Coupé is largely lined with plastic cladding. It integrates NACA air vents and airfoils for the brakes, the seven-speed S tronic and center differential. At highway speeds, the aerodynamic characteristics of the high-performance coupe generate downforce to further enhance stability. The Audi RS 5 Coupé is 4,649 millimeters long, 1,860 millimeters wide and 1,366 millimeters high (15.25 x 6.1 x 4.48 ft), making it 24 millimeters (0.94 in) longer and 6 millimeters (0.24 in) wider than the A5. It is 6 millimeters (0.24 in) lower in height. Its body boasts high rigidity at low weight; the front fenders are made of aluminum. A strut brace further reinforces the front end.Interior and controls
Interior
• Exclusive interior with carbon inlays
• Power-adjustable sport seats; bucket seats with folding backrests and climate-controlled comfort seats
• Specially designed instruments with lap timer and oil temperature gauge
• Optional hard drive navigation system with Bang & Olufsen sound system
• Advanced driver assistance systems available
The differences between the RS5 and S5 are just as pronounced as the differences between a C63 and a base C-class.
RS5 Offerings:
Engine (BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!)
• High-revving, normally aspirated V8 displacing 4,163 cc
• The crankcase is a bedplate construction. The lower bearing bridges for the crankshaft are integrated into a common frame for maximum rigidity and optimal vibration behavior. The cast iron bearing bridges reduce the thermal expansion of the crankcase and thus keep the play at the main bearings of the crankshaft within tight limits.
• Recuperation system and additional efficiency technologies standard
Drivetrain
• Seven-speed S tronic dual-clutch transmission
• New quattro technology with (self-locking) crown-gear center differential and torque vectoring
• Sport differential for variable power distribution between rear wheels
Chassis
• Audi drive select driving dynamics system, optional dynamic steering
• High-performance brakes, with carbon fiber-ceramic discs available
• ESP stabilization program with Sport mode, can be deactivated
• Sport suspension plus, with Dynamic Ride Control variable damping
Body
• Coupe design with distinctive sporty accents
• Xenon plus headlights with LED daytime running lights and LED taillights
• Flared wheel wells front and rear, side extensions. The underbody of the RS 5 Coupé is largely lined with plastic cladding. It integrates NACA air vents and airfoils for the brakes, the seven-speed S tronic and center differential. At highway speeds, the aerodynamic characteristics of the high-performance coupe generate downforce to further enhance stability. The Audi RS 5 Coupé is 4,649 millimeters long, 1,860 millimeters wide and 1,366 millimeters high (15.25 x 6.1 x 4.48 ft), making it 24 millimeters (0.94 in) longer and 6 millimeters (0.24 in) wider than the A5. It is 6 millimeters (0.24 in) lower in height. Its body boasts high rigidity at low weight; the front fenders are made of aluminum. A strut brace further reinforces the front end.Interior and controls
Interior
• Exclusive interior with carbon inlays
• Power-adjustable sport seats; bucket seats with folding backrests and climate-controlled comfort seats
• Specially designed instruments with lap timer and oil temperature gauge
• Optional hard drive navigation system with Bang & Olufsen sound system
• Advanced driver assistance systems available
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Maybe the one foglight is a night vision light, or a radar cruise emitter? If its close to $100K, they aren't going to sell a lot of them.
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Why does everyone get so offended when a magazine doesnt rate their car #1?
All of these cars are great car, IMO everyone of them could be on top depending on who drives it because all of them are closely match and each of them have their speciality, ie C63 superb engine, M3's nice handling/comfortable, Audi's interior and AWD.
All of these cars are great car, IMO everyone of them could be on top depending on who drives it because all of them are closely match and each of them have their speciality, ie C63 superb engine, M3's nice handling/comfortable, Audi's interior and AWD.
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WTF? Why do they keep comparing a 4-door performance car like the C63 to coupes? They should take an M3 limo.
I know the C63 was my first choice, it still is, and would be my first choice in a year's time. The RS5 is 2secs slower to 200km/h although it's a quattro.
I would rank it this way:
1) C63
2) M3
3) Rs5
4) Alpina
I know the C63 was my first choice, it still is, and would be my first choice in a year's time. The RS5 is 2secs slower to 200km/h although it's a quattro.
I would rank it this way:
1) C63
2) M3
3) Rs5
4) Alpina
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If this artical was from Auto Motor und Sport then MB always loses. Besides Hockenheim ring was a great high speed track until they changed it into a Mickey Mouse course. The Hockenheim ring is not a optimal track for the C63.
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I think we're stuck with it, it's kinda now become their trademark of sorts like the kidneys on the Bimmers.
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I could not tell from the begining. After you said it, I checked RS5 and S5. Wow only the grill makes a lot different. RS5 looks awesome.
It would be lots of fun with the dual clutch and high rev engine.
It would be lots of fun with the dual clutch and high rev engine.
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