Kleemann Long Tubes (teaser)
11-05-2010, 04:28 PM
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Kleemann Long Tubes (teaser)
My car just left the Kleemann facilities in Denmark and is heading back home with the latest addition to the C63 tuning program.
First graph is the original dyno done before and after installation of the K2 package (ECU and Shorty headers).
Second graph is featuring same ECU tuning but with the new Long Tubes. Figures are listed in crank HP.
Baseline dyno before adding the LTH came within 4 HP of the original post K2 dyno.
Full write up incl. photos when I get the car back Sunday.
Ken
First graph is the original dyno done before and after installation of the K2 package (ECU and Shorty headers).
Second graph is featuring same ECU tuning but with the new Long Tubes. Figures are listed in crank HP.
Baseline dyno before adding the LTH came within 4 HP of the original post K2 dyno.
Full write up incl. photos when I get the car back Sunday.
Ken
11-05-2010, 04:30 PM
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No way!!!!! That is an interesting development from Kleemann. Cats or no cats? That is smart of them to produce an LT after losing many potential sales.
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^ LOL.
In all honesty though, Kleemann stuff has been very aggressively priced ever since they adjusted their pricing model in (or before) April '09. For example, their V8 headers for the M113 cars are only $1,495... last I checked, anyway. Without pics it's hard to speculate what these ones are like - but if they're true LTs, I'd guess that "K2v2" with these headers would only be $1-2k more than "regular" K2. So maybe around $6,000 all-in; maybe less.
In all honesty though, Kleemann stuff has been very aggressively priced ever since they adjusted their pricing model in (or before) April '09. For example, their V8 headers for the M113 cars are only $1,495... last I checked, anyway. Without pics it's hard to speculate what these ones are like - but if they're true LTs, I'd guess that "K2v2" with these headers would only be $1-2k more than "regular" K2. So maybe around $6,000 all-in; maybe less.
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^ LOL.
In all honesty though, Kleemann stuff has been very aggressively priced ever since they adjusted their pricing model in (or before) April '09. For example, their V8 headers for the M113 cars are only $1,495... last I checked, anyway. Without pics it's hard to speculate what these ones are like - but if they're true LTs, I'd guess that "K2v2" with these headers would only be $1-2k more than "regular" K2. So maybe around $6,000 all-in; maybe less.
In all honesty though, Kleemann stuff has been very aggressively priced ever since they adjusted their pricing model in (or before) April '09. For example, their V8 headers for the M113 cars are only $1,495... last I checked, anyway. Without pics it's hard to speculate what these ones are like - but if they're true LTs, I'd guess that "K2v2" with these headers would only be $1-2k more than "regular" K2. So maybe around $6,000 all-in; maybe less.
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My car just left the Kleemann facilities in Denmark and is heading back home with the latest addition to the C63 tuning program.
First graph is the original dyno done before and after installation of the K2 package (ECU and Shorty headers).
Second graph is featuring same ECU tuning but with the new Long Tubes. Figures are listed in crank HP.
Baseline dyno before adding the LTH came within 4 HP of the original post K2 dyno.
Full write up incl. photos when I get the car back Sunday.
Ken
First graph is the original dyno done before and after installation of the K2 package (ECU and Shorty headers).
Second graph is featuring same ECU tuning but with the new Long Tubes. Figures are listed in crank HP.
Baseline dyno before adding the LTH came within 4 HP of the original post K2 dyno.
Full write up incl. photos when I get the car back Sunday.
Ken
Very nice, any word on cost or pics?
So with k2 shortys:
545hk at the crank = 538 crank HP
660nm = 487lb/ft crank TQ
And now with longtubes:
571hk at the crank = 564HP at the crank
719nm= 530lb/ft at the crank
11-08-2010, 03:19 PM
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Hi guys
Sorry for not providing an update earlier. I was on the phone with Kleemann today and they wanted me to emphasize that the Long Tubes that was installed on my car are prototypes undergoing final tests.
As I am not in any way affiliated with Kleemann I cannot reveal any details on the setup as it is subject to final approval, roll-out and pricing.
It seems I went ahead and posted the original info prematurely and I apologize for anyone who got their hopes up.
The good news is that Kleemann is indeed working on LTH and I would expect some official info in the foreseeable future.
Ken
Sorry for not providing an update earlier. I was on the phone with Kleemann today and they wanted me to emphasize that the Long Tubes that was installed on my car are prototypes undergoing final tests.
As I am not in any way affiliated with Kleemann I cannot reveal any details on the setup as it is subject to final approval, roll-out and pricing.
It seems I went ahead and posted the original info prematurely and I apologize for anyone who got their hopes up.
The good news is that Kleemann is indeed working on LTH and I would expect some official info in the foreseeable future.
Ken
11-08-2010, 04:50 PM
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Good to see companies finally joining the long tubes club because people have been asking for them for sometime now.
Any idea on when more information is expected to be released?
Any idea on when more information is expected to be released?
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To provide a bit more info I retained the secondary cats and mufflers. The cold starts are downright scary. Very loud bark. I'm parked in an underground garage and when I start her up in the morning I have to check there are no kids around as they tend to get really scared. When warm the idle and up to around 4000 RPM is not much louder than my K2 shorty setup however, past the 4K mark it gradually builds in sound and under WOT I would say it is probably twice as loud as the K2 package.
I live on the 13th floor and with the windows open my wife can hear me coming from 2 miles out (when I'm pushing it).
I will check with Kleemann tomorrow on the status of their development.
Ken
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It's loud
To provide a bit more info I retained the secondary cats and mufflers. The cold starts are downright scary. Very loud bark. I'm parked in an underground garage and when I start her up in the morning I have to check there are no kids around as they tend to get really scared. When warm the idle and up to around 4000 RPM is not much louder than my K2 shorty setup however, past the 4K mark it gradually builds in sound and under WOT I would say it is probably twice as loud as the K2 package.
I live on the 13th floor and with the windows open my wife can hear me coming from 2 miles out (when I'm pushing it).
I will check with Kleemann tomorrow on the status of their development.
Ken
To provide a bit more info I retained the secondary cats and mufflers. The cold starts are downright scary. Very loud bark. I'm parked in an underground garage and when I start her up in the morning I have to check there are no kids around as they tend to get really scared. When warm the idle and up to around 4000 RPM is not much louder than my K2 shorty setup however, past the 4K mark it gradually builds in sound and under WOT I would say it is probably twice as loud as the K2 package.
I live on the 13th floor and with the windows open my wife can hear me coming from 2 miles out (when I'm pushing it).
I will check with Kleemann tomorrow on the status of their development.
Ken
