coladin

Bah, I think I am going to do leasebusters till the spring. There is no way, if I do get a 2012 am I getting it in September. Look at today here in Ottawa, man, it is a blizzard! I am not doing this adter having it for only two months this year. I am going to leasebust till the spring.

But ya know...even with the power domes, it still doesn't have that tough look like the 2011. It seems too clean, more feminine.

I saw a 2009 Subaru Impreza WRX STi on leasebusters with 10 months remaining only 700 bucks for a rally car per month! I can live with that, epsecially a day like today. My G was not the greatest today even with Bilzzaks. Actually considering how bad it is it had good bite.

khmergod

Great car but expensive. That's almost the C63's car note.

propain

Loves the snow as long as you have snow tires. Otherwise pathetic even with AWD.

I hate the 2009 body style on the STI. I will never sell my 2004.

$700 a month?!?!?! I think I financed mine for $475/m.

Nstar

This is all you need to know.

As "propain" says, MCT plus arguably classier styling is a win-win. If money is a factor then a leftover is worth grabbing as it's still a seriously good car.

I really think the refresh answered some of my concerns. The slow-witted 7G in manual mode and too many fake bulges and ripples. The new one still looks aggressive but not so aftermarket.

By the way, the new 2012 STI is back in sedan form and looks better than ever to my eyes. First time in a few years Subaru have tempted me with a product.

PatSC23

MCT is the deal breaker for me - I personally think the auto in the current C63 is garbage. Some disagree, but I came from SMGII, thats why.

My call to dealer is already in - first decent deal to get into a 2012 with MCT and and red/black interior and Im in.

For those of you that had deposits on 2011's - get out of it. Call MBUSA and complain if they wont give your deposit back.

Sheep

I know this may be a bit too early for me, as my C63 only has about 800 miles, but if the refresh is this good already, then I can't wait for the BS coupe. I was thinking that my current car will last me for a long while, but now I am just not sure anymore... and the new 2012 GT-R black edition looks so good too, and it's in BLUE!!

So many choices...
Sheep

propain

If you are in the market for a 2012 GT-R Black Edition I dont see how there would even be a choice. The GT-R is a sweet sweet machine.

I hate all of you who have the luxury of have coupes as your daily drivers!

They should make a Sedan GTR.

Jycke

Dogs/Kids i assume? I have 2 so i guess i have to go with the estate although the sedan is more appealing to me

Nstar

I'm often the only person in my sedan, but still prefer it over a two door. Something about obliterating a 911 with a Dunkin Donuts steaming away in the drink holder. Plus on rare occasions room enough for people and clubs for an afterwork 4-ball.

propain

Yeah, 2 kids.

The C63 is my DD along with a Buick Enclave. The rest of the cars are in a warehouse. The deal with my wife is my DD has to have 4 doors. Doesn't matter if its the fastest car ever built. Gotta have 4 doors for the kids.

If I payoff my C63 and don't go with a 2012 a GTR is quite possible for me as my next car to make payments on.

Sheep

Off topic, here is my short list of future upgrades:
2 doors: GT-R, C63 AMG Coupe / BS Coupe
4 doors: Porsche Panarema 4S or Turbo

Back to topic, I just can't understand why won't MBUSA sell the C63 Estate here, as we can't even do it if someone willing to pay MSRP for a special order. But again, we are just not good enough for the 19 inch wheels either...

The Estate will be great for trips and forks that moves around a lot, like me and my truck loads of army deployment gears. I used to have to shuff 3 full duffle bags plus at least 1 full size field rug sack into the space of a RX-8!! That's really something I don't want to do again.

Sheep

khmergod

Agreed. Now if they would only slap all the mechanical components from the R35 into the R34's body, I'd be sold. AWD, check; 4 doors, check; twin turbo, double check!

khmergod

I also wanted an estate. I love hatchbacks. So much room and perfect for a small family. I once fitted 7 people in my matrix...but of course I checked the tire pressure and total passenger weight was under 1000 lbs.

I am Jeff

I don't recall the R34 ever being in 4 doors. At least not in GTR form. Personally, I prefer the R35 body over the R34 anyday of the week. A friend of mind has a R33 as his DD, and it's so funny to see ppl see the driver get out from the passenger side.

khmergod

You are correct. I thought i've seen skylines with 4 doors. I might be going crazy...

coladin

I have fought the coupe fight long enough...now I give in lol.

Had Mustangs, a 99 a 05 and now this G coupe. I was most of the time alone so those cars were great. Now with three kids, 9,7, and 3 the G does not like all the attention it gets in the back. Mind you space is fine, it's that damn hockey bag when the wife is out in hers and I need to stuff it in to that 9 cu.ft trunk or whatever it is! Plus she can drive the C63 because it is auto, have driven manual for 20 years straight...never had an automatic car. I think I am ready now. Nice car , the G coupe, though, miss the Mustang V8 which the C63 will fix that...

The R class is tough to beat as a family hauler. Very, very happy with it. Luxurious, car-like and a sophisticated AWD system makes it a beast in the snow even with the runflats. Plus, where can you find a 5000lb plus vehicle that get you 21 mpg 100% city driving? Love the Bluetec!

Sheep

Totally feel you on that one, but the R class is seriously in need of a major face lift, especially the interior and electronics. That COMAND system looks like the same one my mother has in her 2004 E class wagon!

Sheep

Jycke

So, back from driving the w212 E63 AMG. The MCT is........Awesome (surprise)!
I didn't experience any of the problems some other forum members have complained about, for instance the ride being jerky. I drove in all modes, both like a gentleman and a madman, but no problems occured. I'd say we're safe at least what comes to the tranny And man was it fast...i felt a bit bitter when i sat down in my own E with the speedshift...

chris2k

This is the source of my current dilemma. My dealer couldn't care less if I buy the one on order or wait for a new one. But this MCT has me perplexed. A coworker in NY absolutely hates his 2010 e63. First 200 miles were butter then the jerkyness show up below 2000rpm. My dealer says it's not an issue it just changes gears "more abruptly". When I test drove it it felt a bit more hesitant taking off from a stop but no jerks.

Even Money

So can you do a burnout with the MCT??

chris2k

Well I didn't test that with the E, but according to MB_Forever the answer is no.

Jycke

I'm 100% unfamiliar with drag racing, but i assume a burn out is crucial?

Jycke

Wonder why so many cars have problem whereas others work like a dream...obviously there then is a risk when ordering a new one...never know what you'll get

chris2k

Yes. In order to warm up the tires.

chris2k

This inconstancy is driving me nuts. Just like my high pressure fuel pump on my 335!