_AMG_

Went down to OE Tunning today. First time I saw and heard Jeremy's car with the Gintani Exhaust.
I was there for a while and hung out with Jeremy the whole night and he was kind enough to take me for a spin in his car. The car only had the Exhuast with no tune, so I was expecting to be fast but HOLY SH***T the car RRRIIIPPPSSS i mean its realllllyyyy fast. The car with only the exhaust feels as fast if not faster then my car with the OE tune!!! I was in shock at how fast the car was with just an exhaust, and the sound is just incredible. The whole setup is a work of art, I cant wait until its made to the public.

Jeremy, Just wanna thank you for taking me around for a spin. It was great hangin out with you.

AMGFTW

It is called mind over matter. Why do you think all the ricers with fart cans on their Civics think they are fast?

Loud = Illusion of Speed

PistolWhipC63

This thread is worthless without video!

_AMG_

The car truly is monster.
I have been driving my car with the OE tune for over 4 months so I think I can differentiate between various modded C63's. His car definitely felt as fast if not faster then mine with just an exhaust. It really pulls harder on bottom end power.

_AMG_

I should have had a video camera with me. But you cant really tell how the car feels through a video. It has to be experienced in person to really appreciate the power his car is making with just the exhaust.

bli8

An exhaust can only do so much and there's no way it can gain more power than a tune on our cars. No freaking way. One time I rode as a passenger on the track and thought the guy drove a lot faster than me but after we came in and I looked at our lap times, he was a lot slower, so being a passenger would feel faster than being a driver.

_AMG_

Im not saying the exhaust made more power then the tune. I said the power the exhuast makes by itself feels as fast if not faster then the tune.

GHAZAN

just exhaust...i know hes got times but im not a believer unless headers back

dodger63

This is gotta be the best thread ever..

DD GT3 RD

the exhaust does look really nice...was over there yesterday.

_AMG_

It really does, its gonna be insane with the headers.

FastDonzi

did you ask if the car had headers?then,your claim of the car being as fast or even faster then yours with a tune would hold some water.i could see a car with headers and exhaust being equal to a 60-70hp increase,but not just an exhaust alone.i'm sure its a fine system,but....like someone stated earlier,sound=illusion and the feel of going faster.glad to see you guys are enjoying ur cars through the winter.

xtyper

I was there the other day too and got a chance to see the setup. It is a full manifold back system including longtube headers. It looks gorgeous and sounds amazing!

Sounds like Jeremy may have some dyno results to share with us on this product later today. Can't wait!

_AMG_

It is an amazing setup, but he hasn't put on the LTH's yet, he showed me pics of the headers and they look great.
I was in shock when I saw the dyno numbers from the exhaust. Never would have thought an exhaust alone would put out that much power.

I know alot of people here are hard to convince that an exhaust would make that much power, but the numbers speak for themselves. Im sure Jeremy will post the numbers in the near future.

dodger63

We are talking about a full race exhust right! no cats cat delete in and of itself is a nice gain

xtyper

Oh, ok. When I was there the other night the longtubes were on as well, and it sounded amazing. Guess Jeremy took them off since then for his dyno development to see the header-back results by themselves.

_AMG_

Correct, full header back catless exhaust.

dodger63

Since it's still a mystery..does it bolt to the stock manifolds?

_AMG_

Yes. When everything is ready to go im sure Jeremy will have all the details. I asked him and Alex (Gintanis owner) when the system will be available and the said very soon.

c32AMG-DTM

You're sure the car had a stock AMG tune? If so, with the stock TB restriction intact, it is hard to imagine it feeling faster than a tuned C63. Not doubting you; just trying to understand.

FWIW, OE had their C63 with this exhaust AND their tune, which has already shown solid dyno and track performance from what I gather.

_AMG_

I was there when he pulled out his ECU and re-tuned it.

EUGENE-Taiwan

why not just wait for the dyno numbers.

I'm sure it will arrive very soon

SonnyakaPig

I would say we have some preliminary dyno information based on Jeremy's most recent track outing.

With just a tune and this header-back (catless) exhaust and some race gas he was trapping like 2-3 mph higher than some tune-only C63's.

So, to me, the Gintani/OE header-back exhaust adds about 20 rwhp.

I've heard the car with the header-back exhaust -- haven't driven in it -- and it sounds very powerful.

The exhaust really seemed to help the M156 make more power because you could not only hear the engine rumble a bit more than stock, but you could also feel it when you stood behind the car.

It reminded me of a V8 with a blower on it-- it just seemed like a lot more air was passing through the exhaust.

I've been really excited to see what the track results will be once the new headers are installed and the tune is adjusted accordingly. Jeremy's traps should only increase and that's going to be very fun to see.

GHAZAN

whats with all the pre-ejac....lets just wait till they post. We know catless exhausts are loud and powerful. We know they add 20rwhp and about 2mph...we just need to see pictures (waiting over 2 months i think)

JamE55

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