Vbox 60-130 OE Tune C63 w/ Gintani Headers + Full Exhaust vs Stock C63 w/ P31
02-25-2011, 09:06 PM
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02-25-2011, 09:07 PM
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'11 C63 w/ P31
02-25-2011, 09:10 PM
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8.58 is a very solid time!!
9.87 is also very quick for a stock C63.
Were these runs done on a leveled road or was there a slight incline or decline?
My buddy recently did A 60-130 in his 997 TT, with meth injection, Catless exhaust and Protomotive tune, (stock turbos) he got a 6.7.
His EVOMS 800hp 996TT is at 5.7 seconds. That car is BRUTAL!!!
9.87 is also very quick for a stock C63.
Were these runs done on a leveled road or was there a slight incline or decline?
My buddy recently did A 60-130 in his 997 TT, with meth injection, Catless exhaust and Protomotive tune, (stock turbos) he got a 6.7.
His EVOMS 800hp 996TT is at 5.7 seconds. That car is BRUTAL!!!
02-25-2011, 09:48 PM
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You guys comparing all the time, there are way to many variables to compare, you take the tuners car himself! There is no way to compare, tire size can give an advantage? Everything is a variable! Weather weight? 1,000s of things. Enjoy your purchases that's the best thing to do..
02-25-2011, 10:14 PM
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You guys comparing all the time, there are way to many variables to compare, you take the tuners car himself! There is no way to compare, tire size can give an advantage? Everything is a variable! Weather weight? 1,000s of things. Enjoy your purchases that's the best thing to do..
I also came from having an M3 and it was just constant bickering about who is better and trash talking on other companies on the forum.
It should all be done in a friendly manner. Obviously tuners want to try and beat other tuners times...but it should be done in a classy way. There is no need to trash talk. MHP makes some of the best products and have laid down the best times in the 1/4 and 60-130. I cant speak for Jeremy, but imo he was glad to be amongst there company in the vbox times. I know they have the top dragtimes spots as well, so its good to be in the company of some of the best. Just shows he is very capable and great at his job, as well as a true enthusiast. Its just motivation to get out there and run more!
This isnt the ****ing Highlander where
02-25-2011, 10:15 PM
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02-25-2011, 10:21 PM
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Yea I agree, it doesn't seem to be rocket science, take out the restrictions on this monster motor.. Make big power that can eat almost every car on the road.. We should all applaud ourselves on making a good decision in the cars we bought.. And let the tuners fight each other.
02-26-2011, 12:31 PM
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You guys comparing all the time, there are way to many variables to compare, you take the tuners car himself! There is no way to compare, tire size can give an advantage? Everything is a variable! Weather weight? 1,000s of things. Enjoy your purchases that's the best thing to do..
Its like others saying you currently dont hold the top spot because there are to many variables to compare with anyone slower than you. Being #1 means everyone is going to compare to you and compete with you. It goes with the teritory.
02-26-2011, 01:09 PM
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Thats racing dude. Without comparing whos faster or quicker there is no reason to race.
Its like others saying you currently dont hold the top spot because there are to many variables to compare with anyone slower than you. Being #1 means everyone is going to compare to you and compete with you. It goes with the teritory.
Its like others saying you currently dont hold the top spot because there are to many variables to compare with anyone slower than you. Being #1 means everyone is going to compare to you and compete with you. It goes with the teritory.
02-26-2011, 04:01 PM
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Yes exactly it's racing. But line 2 cars next to each other and that's racing not what Joe smo in Texas did compared to someone in Idaho. Comparing over the computer is not racing.. Line up and go my the best man win.. Allot of people are harping over tunes I'm sure they are all good
When you go for times there will always be different conditions so therefor I guess you cant proclaim to be the quickest or fastest ever unless its same time, same day, same track, same tires, same tire wear, same weight driver.... ect ect.... Im being sarcastic of course because I do think those times can still stand.
This is nothing to do with tune vs tune. Like Mike said, they are all good and all unlock big power in the C63. Its just how fast or quick everyone is going and recording those numbers. If the numbers are worthless to compare to each other than I guess making any kind of list of what car does what is useless. A real race as Mike said adds another variable however... Driver error, and that's what makes racing a sport and a world apart from only chasing numbers.
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02-27-2011, 01:32 AM
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'11 C63 w/ P31
9.99 - Divexxtreme / stock 2010 GT
and divexxtreme has tons of runs under his belt, he has the fastest recorded stock Z06 run as well...
7.86 - Divexxtreme / Stock C6 Z06 / 2-shifts
so he is really good at these runs and best he got in his GTR stock was 9.99... but I think with a tune exhaust and some minor mods he is near 7sec flat
pretty cool a C63 w/ p31 is faster than the GTR, untill the new model is out
02-27-2011, 02:03 AM
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I dont, Ive spent a lot of money on my last few cars...will just get a tune.
Although I know myself and I get the itch!!!! So if I do mod the exhaust, maybe just try the Gintani headers on stock exhaust or just their exhaust with no headers.
But I also would love to see if I ran the same set up as jeremy if my car would be stronger or not
Although I know myself and I get the itch!!!! So if I do mod the exhaust, maybe just try the Gintani headers on stock exhaust or just their exhaust with no headers.
But I also would love to see if I ran the same set up as jeremy if my car would be stronger or not
02-27-2011, 05:15 AM
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I think you are confused about the lists and what they mean? It puts a baseline let's call it on the potential of wht this car can do with certain mods? Everytime I look at a new car in a magazine or whatever first thing I look at is performance, 0-60 1/4 mile handling, does that mean I could get that particular car to do those times, no/maybe it just gives you a basis to compare, a tuned headered c63 mthis can run 11.9 in good weather, does that mean every tuned headered c63 has the potential to do that yes 100% will they most likely not, the list and comparisons are only that, my car seems to pull a high 10.0 every run on the track at 130+, every c63 has it in it..
Off subject. At Sebring these cars dads, hhughes and mine are complete complete animals, seems like between the 3 of us down here at the track running at this Porsche club event are surprising many people, this isn't labeled as a (race) but obviously coming out of a turn in the straightaway and having to let off with a TT Porsche or zo6 in front of you is a great feeling. Needless to say I think all c63s should be tuned and headered
Off subject. At Sebring these cars dads, hhughes and mine are complete complete animals, seems like between the 3 of us down here at the track running at this Porsche club event are surprising many people, this isn't labeled as a (race) but obviously coming out of a turn in the straightaway and having to let off with a TT Porsche or zo6 in front of you is a great feeling. Needless to say I think all c63s should be tuned and headered
I agree. We are not "racing" each other. We are racing a clock. Thats why many prefer street racing. It adds real world conditions all around. Until we start lining up side by side and using the tree we are just going for times.
When you go for times there will always be different conditions so therefor I guess you cant proclaim to be the quickest or fastest ever unless its same time, same day, same track, same tires, same tire wear, same weight driver.... ect ect.... Im being sarcastic of course because I do think those times can still stand.
This is nothing to do with tune vs tune. Like Mike said, they are all good and all unlock big power in the C63. Its just how fast or quick everyone is going and recording those numbers. If the numbers are worthless to compare to each other than I guess making any kind of list of what car does what is useless. A real race as Mike said adds another variable however... Driver error, and that's what makes racing a sport and a world apart from only chasing numbers.
When you go for times there will always be different conditions so therefor I guess you cant proclaim to be the quickest or fastest ever unless its same time, same day, same track, same tires, same tire wear, same weight driver.... ect ect.... Im being sarcastic of course because I do think those times can still stand.
This is nothing to do with tune vs tune. Like Mike said, they are all good and all unlock big power in the C63. Its just how fast or quick everyone is going and recording those numbers. If the numbers are worthless to compare to each other than I guess making any kind of list of what car does what is useless. A real race as Mike said adds another variable however... Driver error, and that's what makes racing a sport and a world apart from only chasing numbers.
02-27-2011, 09:34 AM
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I think you are confused about the lists and what they mean? It puts a baseline let's call it on the potential of wht this car can do with certain mods? Everytime I look at a new car in a magazine or whatever first thing I look at is performance, 0-60 1/4 mile handling, does that mean I could get that particular car to do those times, no/maybe it just gives you a basis to compare, a tuned headered c63 mthis can run 11.9 in good weather, does that mean every tuned headered c63 has the potential to do that yes 100% will they most likely not, the list and comparisons are only that, my car seems to pull a high 10.0 every run on the track at 130+, every c63 has it in it..
Off subject. At Sebring these cars dads, hhughes and mine are complete complete animals, seems like between the 3 of us down here at the track running at this Porsche club event are surprising many people, this isn't labeled as a (race) but obviously coming out of a turn in the straightaway and having to let off with a TT Porsche or zo6 in front of you is a great feeling. Needless to say I think all c63s should be tuned and headered
Off subject. At Sebring these cars dads, hhughes and mine are complete complete animals, seems like between the 3 of us down here at the track running at this Porsche club event are surprising many people, this isn't labeled as a (race) but obviously coming out of a turn in the straightaway and having to let off with a TT Porsche or zo6 in front of you is a great feeling. Needless to say I think all c63s should be tuned and headered
OE's car running quicker than Mthis's car in this instance tells people that a tuned + race exhaust C63 can potentially be quicker or just as quick as that tune + header. "Potentially" and under the right conditions. That gives people more choices and more piece of mind when making a purchase they want to be happy with.
Good stuff about Sebring! I agree about the tune + header in the C63. I wish for us daily drivers it wouldn't void the warranty or it would have been done by many already.
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02-27-2011, 09:44 AM
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A tune voids the warranty much faster then headers or exhust,
The (race) exhust they have basically does what the long tube headers do remove the bottle neck in the system. You cannot compare thr OE tuned exhust car to mthis car.. They should in real life prob almost have the same power.. Again we are taking the tuner himselves car I like Jeremy and what he's doing is great but I would take that with a grain of salt.. We need more independent results from different cars..
The (race) exhust they have basically does what the long tube headers do remove the bottle neck in the system. You cannot compare thr OE tuned exhust car to mthis car.. They should in real life prob almost have the same power.. Again we are taking the tuner himselves car I like Jeremy and what he's doing is great but I would take that with a grain of salt.. We need more independent results from different cars..
I'm not confused about the list or what it means, I know its a baseline. I don't take it as law. Just potential. When I shop for cars or parts for cars I look at the overall potential based on what people have achieved with them. Most people wont see those numbers, I agree, but its nice to know the potential is there.
OE's car running quicker than Mthis's car in this instance tells people that a tuned + race exhaust C63 from OE tuning can potentially be quicker or just as quick as that tune + header. "Potentially" and under the right conditions. That gives people more choices and more piece of mind when making a purchase they want to be happy with.
Good stuff about Sebring! I agree about the tune + header in the C63. I wish for us daily drivers it wouldn't void the warranty or it would have been done by many already.
OE's car running quicker than Mthis's car in this instance tells people that a tuned + race exhaust C63 from OE tuning can potentially be quicker or just as quick as that tune + header. "Potentially" and under the right conditions. That gives people more choices and more piece of mind when making a purchase they want to be happy with.
Good stuff about Sebring! I agree about the tune + header in the C63. I wish for us daily drivers it wouldn't void the warranty or it would have been done by many already.
02-27-2011, 10:14 AM
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A tune voids the warranty much faster then headers or exhust,
The (race) exhust they have basically does what the long tube headers do remove the bottle neck in the system. You cannot compare thr OE tuned exhust car to mthis car.. They should in real life prob almost have the same power.. Again we are taking the tuner himselves car I like Jeremy and what he's doing is great but I would take that with a grain of salt.. We need more independent results from different cars..
The (race) exhust they have basically does what the long tube headers do remove the bottle neck in the system. You cannot compare thr OE tuned exhust car to mthis car.. They should in real life prob almost have the same power.. Again we are taking the tuner himselves car I like Jeremy and what he's doing is great but I would take that with a grain of salt.. We need more independent results from different cars..
The tune can easily be reversed before bringing it to the shop. I don't think anyone would want to replace their stock exhaust every time something goes wrong with the car.
"You cannot compare the OE tuned exhaust car to Mthis Car"
Why?
"Again we are taking the tuner himselves car I like Jeremy and what he's doing is great but I would take that with a grain of salt"
Why? You have said this multiple times and I wondering why. Are you saying he is doing something shady to manipulate the results in his favor to sell tunes or show results that are not to be expected from another car with the "same" setup.
02-27-2011, 10:51 AM
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The tune can easily be reversed before bringing it to the shop. I don't think anyone would want to replace their stock exhaust every time something goes wrong with the car.
"You cannot compare the OE tuned exhaust car to Mthis Car"
Why?
"Again we are taking the tuner himselves car I like Jeremy and what he's doing is great but I would take that with a grain of salt"
Why? You have said this multiple times and I wondering why. Are you saying he is doing something shady to manipulate the results in his favor to sell tunes or show results that are not to be expected from another car with the "same" setup.
"You cannot compare the OE tuned exhaust car to Mthis Car"
Why?
"Again we are taking the tuner himselves car I like Jeremy and what he's doing is great but I would take that with a grain of salt"
Why? You have said this multiple times and I wondering why. Are you saying he is doing something shady to manipulate the results in his favor to sell tunes or show results that are not to be expected from another car with the "same" setup.
02-27-2011, 10:58 AM
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