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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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really? I know in the bmw scene a company ESS sells a supercharger kit, with a few options and there is a 600hp kit on 91 octane and a 625hp kit that is only available for 93 octane. Now im sure the extra power comes from more boost because the higher octane wont knock..and yes its boosted but id still think maybe if tuned for 93 octane an NA motor would see some gains, no?
Go out and test it 2 octane to me doesn't seem like allot. But idk it's like me using special instead of premium 89 compared to 93 I never noticed a difference.. Now going from 93 to a say vp oxygenated race fuel of 100+ octane give u a noticeable difference.. But I've never tested a 91 compared to 93..
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 08:39 PM
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Now going from 93 to a say vp oxygenated race fuel of 100+ octane give u a noticeable difference.. But I've never tested a 91 compared to 93..
Hmm,you mean something along the lines of MS109?
I like MR12 myself
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD
How much of a difference do you think the 93 octane you guys get to use Vs. the 91 octane us California guys have?
With most of the tunes all of us are running, I'm sure higher octane fuel will allow the ecu to run more timing advance. Obviously the additional timing depends on the threshold of the specific tune. But I'm thinking even the 91 octane tunes leave a little on the table such that running 100 octane results in a bit more timing advance than running 91 octane.
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dodger63
Go out and test it 2 octane to me doesn't seem like allot. But idk it's like me using special instead of premium 89 compared to 93 I never noticed a difference.. Now going from 93 to a say vp oxygenated race fuel of 100+ octane give u a noticeable difference.. But I've never tested a 91 compared to 93..
I am not sure if the C63 ECU can increase ignition a significant amount if race gas is added, so without knowing what the ECU itself can handle, couldn't tell you if race gas would be a benefit or not on your platform.

On the 335i N54 platform, race gas has huge benefits as the ECU can recognize and advance ignition beyond the curve set for ordinary 93 pump gas at elevated boost levels. The same reason why methanol injection is such a big power adder for this platform. I wouldn't be surprised if it would work well on your platform as well, assuming the C63 ECU can advance ignition dynamically given the increased octane, not to mention the ability to cool your IATs.

Has anyone datalogged the ignition curve on the C63, with and without race gas on the same map?
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD
Jon also find out your time to the hundredth 9.7x
Still waiting for stickys update... I did like three 9.7sec. I think its low 9.7sec. I might get the fastest TUNE ONLY c63-nothing else. 60-130 time.
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 01:14 AM
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im thinking that 9.79 stock is about as fast I can get stock and is a pretty damn good time.

You guys are on 93 octane and are in colder temperatures. Im sure those 2 variable account something. I had to go back to stock cause I took my car into the dealer to get a smog check cause I was registering it from out of state. Hadn't got to try with the tune really its been raining here on and off like crazy. But Im gonna try and get some more stock runs in while im stock.
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 01:22 AM
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im thinking that 9.79 stock is about as fast I can get stock and is a pretty damn good time.

You guys are on 93 octane and are in colder temperatures. Im sure those 2 variable account something. I had to go back to stock cause I took my car into the dealer to get a smog check cause I was registering it from out of state. Hadn't got to try with the tune really its been raining here on and off like crazy. But Im gonna try and get some more stock runs in while im stock.
How much gas did you have? I had 1/2 tank gas. BTW when I did my first runs without SD card I did a best of 9.5. But 9.7sec was the norm.
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 01:25 AM
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How much gas did you have? I had 1/2 tank gas. BTW when I did my first runs without SD card I did a best of 9.5. But 9.7sec was the norm.
I think a 1/4 to 1/2 tank. But ive dont runs with my gas light on that werent as fast as my best.
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nice! definitely get some runs in! Be good to see more times!

What was the 1/4 mile et and trap on that car?
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