URGENT: Do I Need To Add Engine Oil Now?




Also, you can also use 5w40 (the only differences between 0 and 5 is the operating temperature, 0w40 performs better in sub zero temps.. not an issue during the summer months). In theory, it has to be Mobil 1 based on the MB specifications (I have not seen any other brands that mention it, although I am sure any correct 0w40 or 5w40 oil will work.. MB may pitch a fit if they find out and you went in for a warranty repair.
Dealers typically use 5w40, at least mine does. Up till my last oil change (I do them myself) I was using 0w40.. except a recent boneheaded incident by me not checking the part prior to draining out all my oil and removing the oil filter.... and then opening the box for the new filter only to find the parts guy at my dealer gave me regular C class filters... popped the old one back in, used my new oil.. went to dealer, he swapped out the filters, and gave me 8 quarts of 5w40 for about $40 (basically half price). I know, some of you would say they should have done it for free as it was their mistake on the filter.. but then again, you should always check your parts before starting the work on your vehicle.. so it was my fault too..
Okay.. this probably won't help you along the DIY process heh...
Keep a bag with a rag and a quart of oil in it. When you see that message, drop in a quart. Doesn't take but 2 minutes. Keep the rag to twist the cap so you don't get your hands dirty, and don't burn hands, it can be very hot if you've been driving.
And if you drive into an MB dealer they will usually top you up for free when they see what you're driving and what the issue is. Again, doesn't take but 2 minutes.
Since I haven't done this before, could someone please confirm that the oil filler cap is the black cap with two AMG logos on it, located just right of the center of the engine (when facing the engine), towards the front of the car?
I was also surprised to read in the manual that the car (any C class, not just the C63) can use up to a quart of oil about every 600 miles! In my 2001 E320, I never had to add oil even once in 10 years (though I assume they added/changed oil during the regular servicing). Likewise for our other cars, which is why adding oil to a relatively new car is unexpected for me.

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Keep a bag with a rag and a quart of oil in it. When you see that message, drop in a quart. Doesn't take but 2 minutes. Keep the rag to twist the cap so you don't get your hands dirty, and don't burn hands, it can be very hot if you've been driving.
And if you drive into an MB dealer they will usually top you up for free when they see what you're driving and what the issue is. Again, doesn't take but 2 minutes.
Thanks!

The manual (p. 239) seems more concerned to make sure the car has been sitting long enough before checking the oil level (at least 5 to 30 minutes, depending on how long the engine was running before being shut off)? I suspect the reason is that time is needed for the oil to drip down and settle, and more time is needed if the oil wasn't warmed up enough before starting to settle.









The manual (p. 239) seems more concerned to make sure the car has been sitting long enough before checking the oil level (at least 5 to 30 minutes, depending on how long the engine was running before being shut off)? I suspect the reason is that time is needed for the oil to drip down and settle, and more time is needed if the oil wasn't warmed up enough before starting to settle.
I explained all this to the dealer, and it turns out that the fan belt is frayed, and the frayed strips have apparently cut some wires for sensors. The fraying could be due to a defective belt, or wobbling of the pulleys. They have to look into it further, but this does explain a lot of things:
- Engine fan running even when the car isn't hot, to protect the engine just in case.
- No reading on the engine oil temp.
- Transmission switching from M to C on it's own (again to protect the engine), despite the diagnostic showing that the transmission itself is fine.
The engine was about a quart low on oil, but I'm guessing that this is just a coincidence, and not related to the other problems (though it's still strange that these problems started appearing yesterday, before the check engine light came on).
Obviously, I had to leave the car in the shop and will hopefully either have it fixed or get an update by Tuesday.
I stayed in the garage with the mechanic while he checked all of this out, and it was cool to be able to see everything myself and discuss the problem with him. He had a lot of praise for the car and said all of the AMGs are generally reliable and don't have many problems.
I could be annoyed by having to deal with all of this, but I love the car too much to complain a lot. Plus I'm coming to terms with the idea that a performance car just needs more care than a regular car.
Last edited by IAA-C63; Jun 5, 2011 at 12:43 AM.
In any case, not knocking engineers, as I myself am an operating engineer, but rather the stereotypical lack of common sense. ie: overcomplicating the simple.
I'm glad you took it to the dealer and was able to find out that there were other issues more pressing than just low oil level. I'm glad you didn't allow that man to add oil as he probably might have added incorrect weight of oil.
Concerning the frayed belt, you didn't notice any bits of shredded belt in the engine bay when you first opened your hood?
As far as "overcomplication," engineered systems have generally become more complicated over time because that generally enables improved performance, even though it can also increase the risk of unanticipated problems. Cars are a perfect example. Compare current cars with those of say 30 years ago. Are they generally better? Yes. Are they more complicated? Absolutely (I'm old enough to remember the days of mechanical carburetors).
And what's an "operating engineer"? I've never heard that term.
The mechanic also said that he doesn't see this problem often. Last time he saw it on a car (not an AMG), he just replaced the belt and couldn't find a cause of the fraying (unless the belt itself was defective). I'm hoping that will be the case with my car, since I'd prefer not having them mess with the engine more than necessary (the car is only 2 months old, though I've already logged over 3k miles due to some long business trips).
Take it to the dealer if you have any questions!
For gods sake I have a small modicum of mechanical and practical knowledge but when you are dealing with a 38,000 dollar engine, or whatever, take it to the dealer and let them f*** it up. Sometimes when you think you know what you are doing you really don't and you make a bonehead mistake. For my job I have had to have a working knowledge of all sorts of systems from a Palladin SP Howitzer to a Stryker, and this damn Motor is a som***** and I would rather work on a turbine engine then mess with it. (can you say contractor
based maintenance)
Anyways, take it to the dealer and let them add the oil so they cannot blame
you for some bonehead screwup. I am not speaking from experience.
Last edited by IAA-C63; Jun 5, 2011 at 10:00 AM.






