C63 at dealer.. Minor rant about loaner C300
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The standard C class is not MB's strong suit. It's funny, because I have zero interest in any Mercedes' models outside of the AMG range, which is outstanding. But if I were going to get a non-amped small sedan, I'd skip right over the C and pick up a 3 series, A4 if I wanted all wheel drive, or G37 if I needed the space. The C wouldn't even be on my radar. For that matter, I'd probably skip the E and CLS models for the BMW and Audi equivalents in a heartbeat as well.
Of course that all goes out the window when you hit the AMG range.
Of course that all goes out the window when you hit the AMG range.
IMHO, BMW has no equ. to the CLS, a car that sparked line of followers (Hyundai, Jag, Porsche, Lambo, Volkswagen).
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i had a 2007 c class, and the interior was far better better than the 2008-2011 c class. hard to describe, but the interior of the 08-11 feels cheap. they have fixed this problem in the 2012. it's fantastic. i experienced the new 2012 c coupe (C350) at the dealer, and it is a HUGE step up - i would say the best interior in its class. i have an E550 coupe and it's not quite at that level... but for $15k less it shouldn't be.
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Yes, they don't provide rentals [to me]. And I don't know why. They provide rentals to my dad for some reason. I just get the shuttle from them. Anyway, besides the shop foreman, they're pretty worthless.
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i had a 2007 c class, and the interior was far better better than the 2008-2011 c class. hard to describe, but the interior of the 08-11 feels cheap. they have fixed this problem in the 2012. it's fantastic. i experienced the new 2012 c coupe (C350) at the dealer, and it is a HUGE step up - i would say the best interior in its class. i have an E550 coupe and it's not quite at that level... but for $15k less it shouldn't be.
AMG is different than the normal C class. The same with BMW M compared to its 3 series brother. Audi RS4 to it A4 brother.
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Okay, my car went into the dealer on Monday to get some warranty work done, most notably the light switch (my lights were turning off and then back on again, dash lights as well, when I hit bumps). I figured it was the switch when I touch it lightly the lights did the same thing.
I also have ticking (may or may not be related to the other ongoing threads relating to a lawsuit) that I wanted them to look at, as well as very hard shifting in the first 3 gears.. They will probably recomend a transmission fluid flush (which they are not quoting me around $520.. which seems excessive).
That being said.. I have a C300 4matic as a loaner... what a total piece of crap. It is utter garbage. The C63 is my first MB, I have been in others before, a C55 is the only c class one though. MB's are supposed to be luxury cars, and the C class is supposed to be an intro car into the luxury segment..
This car has absolutely nothing, except XM radio. The seats are leatherish (mind you I almost flew out the window when taking a corner.. apparently I am used to my bucket seats
). It has no get up and go.. in fact.. the get up and go got up and left as it was disgusted with the C class...
Seriously though, while the base model is just that, there should be atleast some luxury in the car.. but there is nothing. The base Chevy Cruze has the same amenities as the base C class...
Anyways... /rant
I also have ticking (may or may not be related to the other ongoing threads relating to a lawsuit) that I wanted them to look at, as well as very hard shifting in the first 3 gears.. They will probably recomend a transmission fluid flush (which they are not quoting me around $520.. which seems excessive).
That being said.. I have a C300 4matic as a loaner... what a total piece of crap. It is utter garbage. The C63 is my first MB, I have been in others before, a C55 is the only c class one though. MB's are supposed to be luxury cars, and the C class is supposed to be an intro car into the luxury segment..
This car has absolutely nothing, except XM radio. The seats are leatherish (mind you I almost flew out the window when taking a corner.. apparently I am used to my bucket seats
). It has no get up and go.. in fact.. the get up and go got up and left as it was disgusted with the C class...Seriously though, while the base model is just that, there should be atleast some luxury in the car.. but there is nothing. The base Chevy Cruze has the same amenities as the base C class...
Anyways... /rant
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I was thinking of the incoming 6 series Gran Coupe. But they haven't released it yet, so I guess it doesn't really count. Here's a link:
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Funny, I had the exact same experience last week as I took my C63 to the local deal to get the navi updated as well as new snow tires. The C300 4Matic wasn't as bad as you have said but close. What worse is that the dealer has a new C coupe in the lot, which is beautiful, but it was coupled with a pretty worthless 4 cylinder turbo and badged as a C250... Now that's sad.
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Life sucks. I brought my Ferrari for a service and the dealer gave me a C63 as a loaner. Please take note that a lot of people can't even afford to buy a C class Mercedes and we are complaining for a C-class loaner. Just count our blessings. Just my $0.02 comment.
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I got a citroén C3 as a loaner and i was grateful for it. No point complaining when they didn´t have any kind of obligation to give you car at all...
But yes, what they give you is never as nice as the car you leave at the dealership At least in Finland because they have no nicer cars available...
But yes, what they give you is never as nice as the car you leave at the dealership
At least in Finland because they have no nicer cars available...
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Yes, they don't provide rentals [to me]. And I don't know why.
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Okay.. let me reiterate.. This was not a rant about the fact that they gave me a crappy car. It was not whining about getting a crappy car for a loaner. I was happy to get a loaner.
What I was pointing out, and the point that I was trying to make, is that for a brand that identifies itself as a luxury brand (not a sometimes luxury brand), the 2008-2011 C class was in no way a luxury vehicle. My camry had the same amenities and the interior was of a better build quality too, I had the hybrid, not sure about the base model camry's).
That was the only point, it was an observation about a brand that advertises itself as luxury when the C class was far from it. Plain and simple (yes I have repeated this theme at least twice in this thread).
I would have been perfectly happy with a Ford Focus or Hyundai whatever as a loaner car. The gripe was not about me not getting a fancy car as a loaner (although they do have Porsche vehicles as loaners for some clients....)
What I was pointing out, and the point that I was trying to make, is that for a brand that identifies itself as a luxury brand (not a sometimes luxury brand), the 2008-2011 C class was in no way a luxury vehicle. My camry had the same amenities and the interior was of a better build quality too, I had the hybrid, not sure about the base model camry's).
That was the only point, it was an observation about a brand that advertises itself as luxury when the C class was far from it. Plain and simple (yes I have repeated this theme at least twice in this thread).
I would have been perfectly happy with a Ford Focus or Hyundai whatever as a loaner car. The gripe was not about me not getting a fancy car as a loaner (although they do have Porsche vehicles as loaners for some clients....)
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This one time my G650 was holed up because the wing broke, and Gulfstream sandbagged me with a G150 loaner. I couldn't believe it. The minibar didn't even have space for my four favorite whiskeys. And the cabin was so low my flight attendants could barely stand up when they served me. I looked at the Gulfstream rep and was like "how am I supposed to fly from Chicago to Melbourne without refueling in this rubbish?" The guy just looked at me. What an idiot.
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This one time my G650 was holed up because the wing broke, and Gulfstream sandbagged me with a G150 loaner. I couldn't believe it. The minibar didn't even have space for my four favorite whiskeys. And the cabin was so low my flight attendants could barely stand up when they served me. I looked at the Gulfstream rep and was like "how am I supposed to fly from Chicago to Melbourne without refueling in this rubbish?" The guy just looked at me. What an idiot.
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Okay.. let me reiterate..
What I was pointing out, and the point that I was trying to make, is that for a brand that identifies itself as a luxury brand (not a sometimes luxury brand), the 2008-2011 C class was in no way a luxury vehicle. My camry had the same amenities and the interior was of a better build quality too, I had the hybrid, not sure about the base model camry's).
That was the only point, it was an observation about a brand that advertises itself as luxury when the C class was far from it. Plain and simple (yes I have repeated this theme at least twice in this thread).
I would have been perfectly happy with a Ford Focus or Hyundai whatever as a loaner car. The gripe was not about me not getting a fancy car as a loaner (although they do have Porsche vehicles as loaners for some clients....)
What I was pointing out, and the point that I was trying to make, is that for a brand that identifies itself as a luxury brand (not a sometimes luxury brand), the 2008-2011 C class was in no way a luxury vehicle. My camry had the same amenities and the interior was of a better build quality too, I had the hybrid, not sure about the base model camry's).
That was the only point, it was an observation about a brand that advertises itself as luxury when the C class was far from it. Plain and simple (yes I have repeated this theme at least twice in this thread).
I would have been perfectly happy with a Ford Focus or Hyundai whatever as a loaner car. The gripe was not about me not getting a fancy car as a loaner (although they do have Porsche vehicles as loaners for some clients....)
Those are the things that you can immediately see and compare. But there are some minor details that a lot of people will disregard. Take for example the fuel door of an G37 compared to the fuel door of the C-class. Take a look and compare them and you will be amazed on the difference. There are a lot of details like that, that make Mercedes, BMW, Audi and the like that makes them what they are.
Another thing is how technology advances. Usually a new model year car will be a lot better in terms of technology that was put behind that new model year car. That is one of the reason why we upgrade and buy a new car.
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My dealer used to give a C-class loaner and after few years they started giving me a cheap small american car and they told me the reason why is "economy" and will charge me extra $20/day for a c-class loaner.
Few months ago a lady hit my bumper so I brought it to a shop...lady's insurance paid for it and also for my rental. Anyway I asked them what kind of rental I will get and they told me that they'll try to match it as close as possible of what kind of car I got, Guy from enterprise asked me what I drive and I told him its a C63 AMG and he said oh its a C-class and gives me a JETTA
Few months ago a lady hit my bumper so I brought it to a shop...lady's insurance paid for it and also for my rental. Anyway I asked them what kind of rental I will get and they told me that they'll try to match it as close as possible of what kind of car I got, Guy from enterprise asked me what I drive and I told him its a C63 AMG and he said oh its a C-class and gives me a JETTA
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I understand what jvanbrecht is saying.
All entry level cars from the premium car manufacturers are like this. They feed off the car buyer in selling them a Mercedes but what you are buying is car that is, in a lot of ways, not befitting the brand.
I always felt that if you want ot truly experience the premium brands cars, it is the next rung that you get what they are all about. The 5 series, E class, A6, XF, Lexus GS, Infiniti M, etc... The 3 series, C Class, A4, IS, G37 are all there to introduce you, so to speak , to the brand and they are hoping that you will progress to the next level.
I always found it outrageous when I saw a 323i with hubcaps or the early C Classes like this as well, no cruie control, etc..we all know how these companies operate.
There is a price for panache and these companies us it to their full advantage.
All entry level cars from the premium car manufacturers are like this. They feed off the car buyer in selling them a Mercedes but what you are buying is car that is, in a lot of ways, not befitting the brand.
I always felt that if you want ot truly experience the premium brands cars, it is the next rung that you get what they are all about. The 5 series, E class, A6, XF, Lexus GS, Infiniti M, etc... The 3 series, C Class, A4, IS, G37 are all there to introduce you, so to speak , to the brand and they are hoping that you will progress to the next level.
I always found it outrageous when I saw a 323i with hubcaps or the early C Classes like this as well, no cruie control, etc..we all know how these companies operate.
There is a price for panache and these companies us it to their full advantage.
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MBZ like all major car manufacturers are trying to expand market share. This means building less expensive cars while maintaining the 'brand image". It's easy for GM but very hard for MBZ to do this. The 3 series BMW has always been able to pull this off as its "brand moniker" is outstanding handling which is always seems to accomplish. The 1 series is a less expensive alternative that still projects the "brand" image and even harkens back to the 2002tii. MBZ branding has always been luxury (until the acquisition of AMG). Luxury cost more to build than handling. Hence to keep the C class at a competitive base price point, some of the "luxury" on the C class has become options. There is target market that just wants the prestige of owning a MBZ and doesn't care about the luxury options, ie the MBZ brand is luxury enough. (I'd much rather see basic a C300 than a Honda with a MBZ star stuck on the hood).
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The standard C class is not MB's strong suit. It's funny, because I have zero interest in any Mercedes' models outside of the AMG range, which is outstanding. But if I were going to get a non-amped small sedan, I'd skip right over the C and pick up a 3 series, A4 if I wanted all wheel drive, or G37 if I needed the space. The C wouldn't even be on my radar. For that matter, I'd probably skip the E and CLS models for the BMW and Audi equivalents in a heartbeat as well.
Of course that all goes out the window when you hit the AMG range.
Of course that all goes out the window when you hit the AMG range.
Conversely, I find non M BMWs and non S/RS Audis generally more appealing in standard form vs non AMG MBs.
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MBZ like all major car manufacturers are trying to expand market share. This means building less expensive cars while maintaining the 'brand image". It's easy for GM but very hard for MBZ to do this. The 3 series BMW has always been able to pull this off as its "brand moniker" is outstanding handling which is always seems to accomplish. The 1 series is a less expensive alternative that still projects the "brand" image and even harkens back to the 2002tii. MBZ branding has always been luxury (until the acquisition of AMG). Luxury cost more to build than handling. Hence to keep the C class at a competitive base price point, some of the "luxury" on the C class has become options. There is target market that just wants the prestige of owning a MBZ and doesn't care about the luxury options, ie the MBZ brand is luxury enough. (I'd much rather see basic a C300 than a Honda with a MBZ star stuck on the hood).
