Wow... Really?

If software "isn't a factor" like you say it is then why did you waste the money on switching tunes? Seems a bit hypocritical if you ask me.

Why bc Andy wanted 1200 for new tune and 500 to bring it to stock bc my cars was not running rite and he put epoxy in my Ecu that's why I switched

Sounds frustrating, what you went through with Andy. FWIW, it sounds like the epoxy was a Eurotek/Techtec thing, from some of the other threads on the subject... I think it may have even been determined that MHP wasn't even applying the stuff (the ECUs were coming back from Eurotek with the epoxy there already).

I think what's confusing about what you're saying, is that isn't OE's tune also $1,200? So, didn't you have to pay Jeremy $1,200 to switch to his tune? Plus, you have a spare ECU with a racegas file... is that also OE? So, potentially, $2,400 worth of additional tuning expenses? If money is the issue, it almost never makes sense to switch tuners... any retunes usually are less from someone you've already worked with, than with whomever the "new guy" will be.

Hagi,
Tunes do make a difference. Thats why you bought the MHP in the first place. The other factors you mentioned will account for some of the time but 150# is not .3. Mike's car is a VERY fast car and everyone knows it. There are more goodies coming so step up and get the good stuff.

You are complaining about $1200 in one breath and then you are talking about getting the Weistec in another?? Don't understand that. Why punish Mike because you have a beef with Andy?? Sometimes you have to let by gones be by gones and move forward. I know you are a great driver and I know Mike appreciates it. Keep racing and have fun. Its just a hobby and last time I checked there are no trophies.

Sometimes I wish I had your patience and attitude Keith. Well said!

what's that special sauce that only mike, keith and hagi know? fess up and btw hagi you sound like a girl

Mike

You told me you were using barbecue sauce.

Question>
What mufflers are most of you guys using with your MHP Headers and Mid Sections..?

Jim
MachC5

Street : stock
Strip : mhp race exhaust

Chicfila sauce is better

So much but we don't have those up here!

why can't you tell if it's just a hobby and there are no trophies....mr. nonchalant

Street and strip - nothing but an X-pipe, straight 3" duals all the way out. No cats or muffs. YES, its LOUD.

Apparently Honey Mustard is faster than barbeque. LOL

I think what Mthis means.. Is there is only a 5-10rwhp difference between tunes so that is just a minor difference. The major differences are all the other mods these guys have done behind he scenes. Weight reduction, mods, etc. Tune is a small part of the equation.

I think we just found a great business opportunity!

Never said it was a hobby to me more like an obsesion all I've done for 1.5 years is figure out how to make this car faster, I've weighed measured half the parts on this car measered roll outs of many diffe4ent tire, countless hours of reasurch, I handed over all of almost everything with Hagi as he's shared is findings with me, you think I should just bobbed everyone the formula, if he's going to do it and ruin a realationship over it so be it!! I do have a trophy

You like I do and don't want to let anyone else get it!!

This isn't a tune result thread, I didn't start it Hagi did there is a big thread being debated on bb about differences in tunes go there and discuss,

Ok thanks mr fast

Mr fast? What did I do to get the douche bag response from you?

Hey Mike,
GREAT JOB!! You have done an outstanding job with the car and it shows in the results!!

Lets keep the thread on topic. You deserve it, CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!

I agree on the tune. The more aggressive tunes are all very close to one another. MHP has a big track group so what seems like MHP always being on top is really MHP having the biggest track presence. If no one else with competitive tunes goes to the track than who is the competition? Its easy to be #1 when your the only kid on the block competing.

Its all good though, instead of fighting about it or talking about it prove it. I'm not talking directly to you Hagi, you have done your thing for a long time I just mean others who claim one tune is better than the other. Get out to the track and put down some numbers.

Custom stuff that one else will ever have???? Damn it!

Otherwise weight is the game with the C63. I believe you stated you were running 350 under stock Hagi? Mike is running 150 less than that? 500 pounds off his car? 3400-3500 pounds with the driver? WOW. That is light.

Hopefully you can make MIR on Friday Hagi. Hopefully you can drag Goni there too! It would be a good time.

This is true, but these types of threads never stay on topic. You can only say congrats so many times before people start asking about setups ect.. all part of the game.

How about your Keith? MIR on Friday?

These cars are retarded fast for na!!! Even the modded out blower 63s would have their hands full

Congratulations!!!!!

Nothing short of (((awesome))) sauce.

that is all