Coolant usage-may be the "bad news"
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(a)'12 C63 P/P, LSD, 19" m/spoke,comfort pack. (b)Astra SRI.
Finally I have a response from MB Australia. They have offered to buy all the new parts and rebuild the motor at their cost. I am to pay for the motor installation and testing up to A$ 5K. The Dealer I spoke to was quite aplogetic about the time taken to make this offer and said this was part of the reason for the offer being generous. He expects my contribution will be less than 5K.
There are cases for more MB contribution and some for less however overall I am satisfied with this. Now to get the car fixed and back on the road. It will still take aboot another 4 weeks to get all the parts, rebuild and test.
My co-contribution will result in a 12 month warranty on the engine.
There are cases for more MB contribution and some for less however overall I am satisfied with this. Now to get the car fixed and back on the road. It will still take aboot another 4 weeks to get all the parts, rebuild and test.
My co-contribution will result in a 12 month warranty on the engine.
Cheers, Pickles.
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I did ask about a new engine and although they did not have a price off hand on a C63 engine he mentioned an E55 replaced a few years earlier including installation etc was around 80K. Not sure how they price this but it seemed excessive to me.
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(a)'12 C63 P/P, LSD, 19" m/spoke,comfort pack. (b)Astra SRI.
Done so far. Pull down, test and Xray heads and block. Reassemble head to block with new head gaskets. Pressure test and discover leak. Pull apart and replace head bolts and gaskets, reassemble and pressure test again. To be done: All new Pistons, Rings, bearings, gaskets, plugs and head bolts as well as complete all items for a Service. Assemble, fit to car and test.
I did ask about a new engine and although they did not have a price off hand on a C63 engine he mentioned an E55 replaced a few years earlier including installation etc was around 80K. Not sure how they price this but it seemed excessive to me.
I did ask about a new engine and although they did not have a price off hand on a C63 engine he mentioned an E55 replaced a few years earlier including installation etc was around 80K. Not sure how they price this but it seemed excessive to me.
Did they do anything to do with the valve gear?
Regards, Pickles.
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I got the coolant message about a little over a year ago on my 08 C63. Miles were well below the 10k mark and looking back at the issue, I took my car to my local MB service and explained that the check coolant message came on. They added coolant claiming that in hot weather sometimes it boils and leaks out if the cap is not tightened well enough. However, they didn't document this and fortunately I haven't had that issue since then (fingers crossed). I'm wondering now weather this was not documented on purpose?
The car is fresh out of warranty as well now and some ticking noises do still occur from the engine bay on cold starts even after a pressure valve was replaced under warranty. Also recently the car start reeking of foul transmission odor and car is acting jerky in Sport mode.
After reading this thread I'm quite concerned but I'm not sure if any of the aforementioned issues revolve around the head bolts and gasket issues you've all been mentioning? Could I be wrong, is this part of the problem?
The car is fresh out of warranty as well now and some ticking noises do still occur from the engine bay on cold starts even after a pressure valve was replaced under warranty. Also recently the car start reeking of foul transmission odor and car is acting jerky in Sport mode.
After reading this thread I'm quite concerned but I'm not sure if any of the aforementioned issues revolve around the head bolts and gasket issues you've all been mentioning? Could I be wrong, is this part of the problem?
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I agree. I mean, congrats on finally getting this resolved... But why do you have any out-of-pocket expense greater than $0 when it's clearly a manufacturing defect?
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I can understand this point of view as well. Whilst I would prefer not having to contribute the bonus is the 1 yr warranty on the rebuilt engine. Looking from MB point of view car is out of warranty, how long should additonal good will last? Did the owner abuse or cook the engine? Many factors to consider. Overall despite being out of pocket I will have an almost new engine with a 12 month warranty.
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i know this is an old thread but i just want to add that as a precaution i have contacted MBUSA with the bulletin # LI01.30-P-051567 to make sure if my newly acquired '09 C63 suffers from this (as my engine number falls within the highlighted range) that my CPO warranty will cover it. i have had a phone conversation with the case manager and he is going to go back to another arm to find the info since it's coming up empty on his system. the warranty doesn't denote fasteners but i've had two service managers tell me it does cover gaskets and those inherently fail when the fasteners fail, so i'd be ok...however, i won't be completely put at ease until MBUSA tells me that, not service managers.
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i know this is an old thread but i just want to add that as a precaution i have contacted MBUSA with the bulletin # LI01.30-P-051567 to make sure if my newly acquired '09 C63 suffers from this (as my engine number falls within the highlighted range) that my CPO warranty will cover it. i have had a phone conversation with the case manager and he is going to go back to another arm to find the info since it's coming up empty on his system. the warranty doesn't denote fasteners but i've had two service managers tell me it does cover gaskets and those inherently fail when the fasteners fail, so i'd be ok...however, i won't be completely put at ease until MBUSA tells me that, not service managers.
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understood. i certainly am not looking for a preventive fix, but rather just want MB to tell me that if the head bolts fail as per the description in the TSB and cause head gasket problems, that i'll be covered completely and not have the failure blamed on faulty fasteners that are not specifically named in the CPO/Extended warranty coverage.
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understood. i certainly am not looking for a preventive fix, but rather just want MB to tell me that if the head bolts fail as per the description in the TSB and cause head gasket problems, that i'll be covered completely and not have the failure blamed on faulty fasteners that are not specifically named in the CPO/Extended warranty coverage.
You should not have a problem as long as you are under the primary or CPO warranty. The only other things that typically cause head gasket leaks are faulty gasket (which would be covered) or sever overheating (water pump, thermostat failure, blow hoses or radiator leaks leading to warped heads (which would also be covered) unless you ignored the problem and continued to drive the car.
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Follow-up
Checking back in.
Now at nearly 70k miles and no other problems. The repair appears to take care of the issues. I drive this nearly 100 miles per day, runs like a champ...
Hope everyone else is able to get theirs taken care of.
Now at nearly 70k miles and no other problems. The repair appears to take care of the issues. I drive this nearly 100 miles per day, runs like a champ...
Hope everyone else is able to get theirs taken care of.
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Do they seem to let go at a certain point? like maybe a pattern of it being within the first 40k and after that point they're generally proven to not be problematic. or is there really no pattern to when it happens and on what cars?
It would be good to get a thread together that could be edited with info to get an idea of what years/models/build numbers were directly related, much like the corvette forum regarding the c6z06 "broken rocker arm needle bearings issue":
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...ngs-issue.html
It would be good to get a thread together that could be edited with info to get an idea of what years/models/build numbers were directly related, much like the corvette forum regarding the c6z06 "broken rocker arm needle bearings issue":
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...ngs-issue.html
