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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 11:54 PM
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How many rwhp should I expect?

With a tune, header , x pipe , filter and exhaust, whats the max rwhp I should expect without going for s/c?
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 12:03 AM
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It all depends on the tune, headers, etc... probably around 460-470rwhp with 420-430 rwtrq. It depends on the dyno as well.
There are few variables you need to take into consideration.

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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 12:08 AM
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very vague question without telling us what brand products or combination...so roughly 80-120rwhp depending on what you choose from baseline.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 12:13 AM
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How about asking what kind of trap speed or ET?
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 12:25 AM
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Enough to put a pretty big smile on your face and roast 1st and 2nd gear.
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how bout i hijack this thread and ask a specific question ..
agency power headers + agency power exhaust + gruppe M intake + kleemann tune ..
my installer doesn't have a dyno
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Originally Posted by vessproms
With a tune, header , x pipe , filter and exhaust, whats the max rwhp I should expect without going for s/c?
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 02:06 AM
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is there anyway to push it near 500? or even a hair over 500?
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is there anyway to push it near 500? or even a hair over 500?
Yes. If you are making 460-470 rwhp with tune+headers+intake & filters. You should hit 500rwhp and a little over that with a dedicated race tune in conjunction with race gas and some race ported heads. You should be around 500-515 rwhp.
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Yes. If you are making 460-470 rwhp with tune+headers+intake & filters. You should hit 500rwhp and a little over that with a dedicated race tune in conjunction with race gas and some race ported heads. You should be around 500-515 rwhp.
Race tune means race fuel 24/7. Not a good solution unless its a DTC and you like having drums of fuel stacked up in your garage. If you got a spare ECU and had two tunes it could work. Again, unless you are a track guy like some on here it wouldnt be worth it.

Stick with the 470 whp and shed some weight off the car would be a better idea. Light weight wheels, rotors, Carbon Fiber Hood/Truck. Racing seats. Remove the spare.


The 4100lbs is the problem with the C63. Its a big fat pig.

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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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Dyno = tuning tool.

A dyno number on it's own means nothing, you are suppose to compare that number to a baseline (stock whp) to see the effects of your mods on gains/losses.

For example my stock car put down 308whp on a mustang dyno, 357whp with ecu tune = 49whp gain.

The same car on a dynojet will put down 380whp stock.

In the end a dyno is just a measuring tool for improvements/gains, it's not a benchmark unless you are into e-peen measuring.
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